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Well, if I had a brain that could think and reason properly and take in information, I would know that the people coaching me are not the people that brought all that dysfunction to the Panthers. That's one thing. The other is you could ruin your career if you grandstand like that and don't back it up by being hot poo. There are a lot of angles.

I am with Ace on the it isn't a thing part of it. He never says he didn't throw or work. So I can't blame him for something we don't really know. I am absolutely no fan of Bryce the baller.

My family was from a little ways down the road, I understand him just fine lol. He talks like the old timers used to. XL has the Rx.

Okay, not suggesting you do this work, but find a major talking head that even once suggested he was not the most pro ready football mind ever. I am agreeing with you btw, not arguing against your opinion. People were not even debating it as I remember it. Everyone was touting his readiness to step right on to an NFL field and take the team forward. NOW, they pretend they weren't saying that stuff and look to pass the bad evaluation off and organizational dysfunction. When in reality, taking him is the prime example of the team's dysfunction in the first place. I don't care where he went - he cannot play like he is trying to play and get away with it in the NFL.

Can't defend Tepper but that viewpoint (admittedly) ignores that he is the manifestation of that dysfunction. The biggest impactor of suck that is on the field for us to see. I haven't listened and doubt I will (my mind is finished with calculating his chances). But it is completely understandable to me that people want to hear it.

Okay then Tepper made the initial ripple. The QB obsession was going down that road. For sure. And like Young, when Tepper's big chance came, he totally blew it.

That article is fair in much of the interpretation, where the real dysfunction is lives in the minds of the league sources. If they really believe it is the Panthers' fault and Young is the talented victim, we need to speak with these people about a deal. The author admits that the narrative shifts or doesn't according to what Dalton can do with the same roster. Fair enough, I am willing to believe we'll see the difference immediately.

Strike while the iron is hot. He is a half ton truck you can tow your skiff with, but you are not pulling big league weight for long with it. Can't take it up in class without the goods being there.

That is more true than not. I don't recall a devastating blindside helmet in the back or having 300 pounds laying on him to drive him into the turf, and the real rough stuff that people used to have to deal with.

Except we weren't the worst team in the NFL in 2022, were the 9th worst record. Close to the TOP of the bottom third. We got a whole lot worse drafting him and sending DJ away. And the injured guards up front took us down. IOW I don't think that is really that big of an excuse for him. And have no argument on his lack of NFL aptitude. He comes up short! We don't have a lot of time to enjoy our short puns... use them up.

That was the bullshit part. He had clean pockets and he had open receivers, and it was being ignored so people could push the excuse narratives. I mean, there were fewer times these things were there, but erasing the times they were is a dishonest argument. IMO.

What I have noticed with his blocking is good. Willing to stick his nose in there. Not just patty cake and hand fight and get in the way like most of them.

It was there from his very first game. I distinctly remember being aghast at the lack of urgency in his play. You need someone assertive and being very strong willed in that assertion, and he has to attempt to control every aspect and then when you fail, that is when you rationalize the lack of control.

Okay this is because of something I was really down on doing, and it is the overcompensating to help Bryce Young do his job. That is chasing a poor investment. You don't NEED the best two guards or the most expensive two guards for everybody. You take the IR'd RB a little too early to beat Dallas to him, because of his receiving component being that strong and again, that was done for the same reason, they thought they needed to have more than the average around him. It was just sad to see for me. And the defense was also pilfered to enable that overcompensating. I will be so happy when that guy is out of the equation and they can build for a player that doesn't need as much help. The ripple effects of that decision affected practically every move. It is like robbing from your business to cover your gambling debts

Yeah I would probably have moved Icky inside and not bought one of those guards at that money. But that leaves another hole to fill. It's a puzzle alright with the money being so huge.

I hope he does well because he is cool. Real easy to like.

I don't think it was an all night sized job in the first place. When you see the rehabbed mechanics in the Buffalo Drive at work and those results it is very encouraging. Even against twos and threes because you see the work and the results which is more important than who you are playing against a particular day. Jump ahead and watch him playing real football at real speeds with guys really chasing him with bad intentions. That poo lasted about 8 drop backs at the most. As far as the breaking him that people are using to fault the team, okay he broke but you going to blame the team for him being built to break? You are trying to use freshwater gear fishing in the ocean, good luck. It was built to do one thing, not the other. On road vehicle, don't take it offroad. I blame the team - for not seeing that he was not built to thrive at that level. That's it. You bought water in a wine bottle, doesn't matter what you do it will always remain water.

And every other QB. As it should be.

All I remember is Purple Drank whatever that was. I must have forgotten when he hit 300. But the arm was actually a tangible super tool. I will amend it to he is the most predictable bust drafted to the NFC and settle for a close second.

If he does his part we might get lucky with two contenders having WR crises. Get some bidding started up. And yeah he was brought here for Bryce Young. That role doesn't exist any more and we can finish last without him. Time for 'It's a business'.

We could shorten the games like the Chargers did and keep the scores down. Only hope, if winning games is the primary thing this year. edit: actually that whole dink and dunk thing does that, with completions. But you have to back the defense off enough to get a little space to work with.

I would say he was the most predictable big time bust ever. I never understood the NFL projection. He doesn't project. (didn't not doesn't)

Agree it is maybe the best move to turn this around that could have been made. They are building front to back, inside to out, which a lot of people live by as the best way to build.

What s the world coming to when you can't keep the average gold digger around with just gold. Now you have to win too.

There is a big disconnect somewhere because his tools were always simple to quantify, outside of his magic noggin.