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I have posted this video before and referenced it in the Bryce arm strength wars. I brought it up with the alleged pff guy that called us casuals and other names. And about a year prior I posted it proposing the same theory. Noteworthy is they throw with varying degrees of effort. The sailing throws come with max effort. I compare it to baseball pitchers. They generally do not throw 100% effort, they take some off and it helps their accuracy. As you can see, when those guys go all out fastball the football sails. They generally miss high. When people were saying Bryce has such a great arm “look he overthrows deep balls”, well maybe he is trying as hard as he can and misses high, just like these guys. Where they can take a little off and still get plenty of zip, I don’t think he has much to take off the throw and still have it zipping and zinging. Obviously on throws like what beat the Rams velocity isn’t the critical factor, placement and touch to get that are the demands on the throw. But when he needs the velocity he doesn’t have as much effort to spare as the big boys with the strong arms. It makes total sense to me.

I was just getting ready to check how many vacancies. Agents are not the most reliable sources for facts of this nature.

I gave him pie for that back half of the post the late throws etc. Didnkt really even think about the velocity numbers that much. But didn’t think it sounded right.

I should have asked, where did you get those velocity numbers? I am interested in the topic. I don’t know from scouting reports but are you talking pre draft when they were praising him and basically lying about how good he was gonna be and he was worthy of being the 1.1? mostly interested in the velocity receipts though.

I really do wish we could get a radar gun reading off of Bryce because I suspect it is a good 5-10% lower than average. I also bet that maybe it is much better with the proper footwork and throwing mechanics than it is with his little tippy toe poo.

I try to like listening to that guy. Does he think Canales doesn’t know and didn’t address this day one? Remember 2.7 seconds, 123 plant throw? That was one of the first things he said. If you watched for this stuff year two and of course I did, being aware of Young’s issues, you saw the difference in preseason. Just the one game one drive vs Buffalo but it was there. You can still find that probably. And I ranted about it opening day vs NO that year, Bryce had the footwork for the few drops he made in the 1st qtr. I forget whether it was very end of that qtr of very beginning of the 2nd, it was gone and the old habits were in place. This poo isn’t new, where has he been? edit: and I heard him say that all the small QBs do that tippy toe stuff? Can that possibly be true? I guess it could be as I have never analyzed another shrimp’s footwork. But I am very doubtful.

Some of us are. I am one of those grinches that looks at it like, we had 4 games of must win and control our destiny and all that, and went 1-3. We earned nothing. Atlanta won our title for us. Damn, Harbaugh. Who they hiring?

They must have had relatives…

Coker has never dropped a pass? poo, call Vegas.

This was always so funny to me. Rookie year, people kept on the the Peyton Manning had a shitty rookie year. So did… insert another all pro, same thing. They never said well Jamarcus had a shitty rookie year. Heath Schuler. Clausen. A litany of busts also had shitty rookie years. I mean, only great QBs had shitty rookie seasons, so Bryce’s shitty season means nothing. And when we get to the comparisons now….

I watched. Meh. He seems pretty entrenched. Knows what is best for himself. He thinks. He is a good guy, me not being a fan of his QBing I don’t want to humanize him too much because I could go soft. As long as his play is gonna be an issue for me, he has to remain a figure on my TV screen

Can’t edit that, but I admit I have biases galore, especially against short small QBs. Biases are positive too. In nature. Pos/neg, they go both ways.

As far as progress goes, a turtle makes progress. A snail makes progress. Congress makes progress. Well maybe not Congress. Bryce needs to step it up.

Yeah I root for him but can’t stan him with his boneheadedness. I think he has more talent and potential than the big detractors think he has. But he has to prove it I can’t make excuses for him.

Well Renfro was a local HS player around where I live so I was pulling for him. We didn’t see much of him, not enough to know if he was doing well on the comeback anyway. I was resentful a little that Young couldn’t get the ball to him.

Thanks a lot Aggie I appreciate that quite a bit. I suspect you were lol. Old water under the bridge. It never really gets you anywhere to claim that you aren’t racist when that comes up, nobody that is calling you one buys it. And every one of us has biases. And that’s okay afaic, they come from personal experience.

Not looking it up but I wonder, who did we beat in those games?

Well they are pawn brokers. The good stuff is in the back.

Cam could do everything they are having Fred do, pretty much. And can see over the line and run a hell of a sneak. Just saying. And we’d have had all our squandered picks and DJ Moore. poo.

That was good. I am slow with the xo stuff and the newer terms but I can surmise that when you go straight progressions you need to be able to see the field. If you can’t you can’t evaluate your options. A lot of what we do is just pick one side of the field and move Bryce that way. Which I feel limits you and helps the defense. Kind of like the deep stuff fits with the want to make the defense defend every blade of grass.

Without watching it, I am gonna guess it is “well it got me this far”-ish. I bet I will get pissed or disgusted if I watch that but I’ll try and get to it. I always remember Reich and Tepper going at it over the mechanics/footwork. Reich supposedly told him it was an offseason project not an in season one and big Tep demanded he fix it that week. Was shortly before Reich was fired. Btw I thought that after we got Bryce Frank always looked like the long suffering guy with a shrewish overbearing wife. Who was stuck. A sadder Al Bundy,

Excellent. With Bryce, as with many situations, you don’t advertise your weaknesses. You hope people don’t notice them.

I remember so many times when he would pop out the pile and get up a head of steam with that long stride and who the hell wants to get in his way? Or flick the ball 40 yards on a rope. MF was the most naturally gifted player I remember seeing. (At QB. I mean, Bo Jackson?) I was irritated the same way you talk about Bryce, with Cam going back to school (mostly to be BMOC and chase skirts I thought) after his rookie season. I wanted him in those same drills to finish building himself. And that went on throughout his career. He never felt the need to make himself take that last step up. Apparently. It came so easy for him, I understand. He didn’t have to do that to be better than most other guys. He was young and rich and horny. Have some fun, work hard in season.

How about non 6’5” Brady, just a couple of years ago? Honestly since I quit playing FF and also cut the cable I don’t watch the league like I did. So more examples, I might be slack. Stroud is more in that mold to me. Classic drop back passer. I think my point is, if you have that guy it can still work. The shift to athleticism being prioritized (which really kind of kicked into gear with Cam) has led to a reduction of guys playing that way it seems like. The pool of players in that mold is smaller.