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I had hope as recently as this year that Bryce would fail so hard that Tepper just throws in the towel on dictating to the football people. But my meager sports prayers are not usually heard.

I have a no college coach rule. Pretty hard and fast, like my no historically undersized QBs with below average NFL arms at 1.1 rule Only waived for a coach that had higher level NFL experience prior to college like a Pete Carrol maybe. Rhule was not that at all. And the most comical and memorable example of Tepper’s ego to me will always be the “I’ll take a year to learn the business side and a year to learn the football side”. ROTFLMAO at that bullshit

there you go. Boy that is a big one. Probably other things. He has accrued some years putting up numbers.

“ Here, let me see that thing”.

It takes some experience to know that you don’t know. People that say that may not know but are more likely to make a good educated guess.

Yeah. That seems a decent hope. But our coverage in the middle of the field, I don’t know what we can do about that. I think they can eat. DB could mess that up with a monster game especially against a statue, which unfortunately Allen is not.

I did too. Also, the media here are like little fuzzy kittens compared to NYC.

I thought this presented an interesting point. It is fair to wonder now, about switching the two QBs as so many tried to do that first year where Bryce was trash and CJ looked great. It is almost the reverse scenario now and I wonder what CJ would look like here with better weapons better coaching and better protection. Overall, compared to year one. If each player had been in the other place for the three years. I would love to see CJ with this team now. Just to see.

He has been a good player and clean player over the years. I don’t follow that close but think he was closing in on setting his resume for his place in the all time rankings. I am sympathetic to him becaus this will hurt him there.

If you are talking about me how are they excuses? For who? The criticism of Reich was he was outdated in his play designs and boring and too old school. I wasn’t addressing that. I simply contended that a Reich the OC play caller that people hated does not affect his ability as a QB evaluator. Separate areas that can be separate. edit PS etc As you say, there isn’t proof. We likely won’t get absolute proof. But let’s not pretend that people don’t lie. Coaches especially lie about players to the press. Owners lie about coaches. He is

I suspect the owners might come into play. And pressure.

Yardage based rankings are so full of holes. I do not trust them. So much chicken or egg comes into it. And when you get into the season, a team can be totally different than they were a month ago. Either direction, due to injuries or even simple improvement.

Not unreasonable. The OL and pass pro will be the key IMO.

I would go with we are in famine now, with those guys it was feast or maybe TV dinners with the occasional famine. 7-9 was the running joke when predicting the record for well over a decade.

I am just a hard head that is entrenched in the idea that if you played the game for real than you know what it takes. Better than someone who has not. And will not be so easily fooled by something like an S2, media opinions, and surely not bloated water weight at a weigh in And are likely to to value the physical toolkit because you have seen how big and fast and violent the game is up close. You had to compete with those players. Morgan said early on, it is a big man’s game. I don’t think he excludes QB from that paradigm but just cannot say so publicly until this all plays out. and maybe privately too right now.

Well, you aren’t really joking there but at the same time, talent will out. Cam in our case. Manning. All the guys that people pointed to when Bryce sucked his first year, and said they struggled too… It is such a crap shoot.. but better than it was before they slotted the pay into a reasonable stratosphere. Talk about killing your franchise paying the equivalent of modern day 50-60 million per, to a green rookie….

Yep and I can feel it about to happen to us.

Okay. I mean we are just discussing. I never saw Tua as being really a valid guy in tne league. But I am prejudiced against Alabama QBs because of their basic mediocre track records stepping up to the NFL so zi was probably predisposed and biased. But still correct. FWIW Bryce was such a physical outliee Bama didn’t really enter my thinking. It never became a factor for me. Anyhow Murray was kind of a toy, by my standards and not a guy I would have been excited by. Then it got to the contract clause of mandating film study and the game was lost right there. Why would you pay a guy you thought needed the stick instead of the carrot? I am just a tools first guy, for gaining admittance to move into the more thorough evaluation phase. It won’t change. I just have always been you have to meet the threshold physically before we consider your other areas of potential as a pro. Which I believe Jones passed that threshold. And has shown some flashes. Sure is doing it this year. The contention about what how pressure of a big contract might affect his performance, how the roster might lose a player or two two due to his salary precluding paying them, that is something else. If he continues to compete at this level like he is so far, I would put money on someone paying him though. And we will see what happens. oops forgot about Darnold. I saw it in him in late ‘22. The ability and him being on the cusp of getting it. He has lived up to the prove it deals, zi don’t know what they gave him in Seattle but it seems to be a good choice so far…

I just told you why. You don’t want to accept my contention. Your right People want to portray Frank as incompetent and a bad coach and bad judge of talent to bolster their Bryce excuse making for that first year. But Frank did not want him, and once he was saddled with him he tried to get them to sit the kid so he wouldn’t be embarrassed and could maybe learn and get a little more ready. He was not the bumbling idiot that many people portrayed him as. He was a fine judge of QB talent that had worked with some of the best. You will not easily fool a guy that played that position in tne league for many years and coached some great QBs, knowing full well what it takes to play the position in the NFL. You can debate his schemes all you want that is a different skill set from evaluating a player I mean, they didn’t fool me and Frank is like 1000 times more capable of making that determination than I am. It was cake for him. I see it as he found himself surrounded and outnumbered and went with the program as best he could. If you knew that everyone you work with (and you are new) had their minds made up - would you die on the lonely hill of dissent or would you just write the name down that you knew they were going to write down, and try to make it work? That is what I will believe he did until he corrects me.

He (Woody Johnson) might be even worse than Tepper in regards to blatant meddling. Which is a Cat 5 level disaster.

I had forgotten the little slips of paper thing. But they lie, okay? They just do. It is really important for the players that they present them with a unified front. Candor is not a priority. If you could look at Frank and see a man that was happy with the decision, you have something I don’t have.

It is the same now as it was in early 2023. He has no ‘plus’ physical traits as judged on an NFL level grading scale. Such a huge red flag. In looking for positives I think I would commend his resiliency more than anything he has done physically.

Those euro games seem to have a tendency to be stinkers, like the Thursday night games used to be. Might still be. I don’t ever know what to take away from them.

I think they will be able to exploit our ILBs, and will understand that. And will do it.

That is true. They were a play away from legit earning the top pick, while in contrast we were in the 9th slot and not viewed as the worst team, not close. We were seen by many, on the outside and here and in the building as being a player or two away from contending for the division.