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I am not sure anyone here can definitively say Morgan Did want to draft Young. Or even make that trade. Also, I am giving him leeway whether you want to do that or not. We will have to disagree. I cannot get my mind around the idea that he could look at Bryce and endorse taking him 1.1. If it comes out of his mouth then I will believe it. Not another poster or five other posters. WI will concede that possibly he wa fooled last year with so many others, into thinking Bryce might have a future. That via as far as I can go I also think, without proof, that he defers to the offensive guys in some of these evaluations and is the bigger voice on the defensive evaluations because that is his background

If you agreed to work under a condition and your hands were tied… you would pretty much do what Morgan has done, or tried to do. Which is improve everything else. Taking QB out of Morgan’s evaluation makes him look pretty good. There are tells that he was under a mandate IMO which is the OL construction, and the two first picks in 2024 being offensive skill guys. His work in his second year looks much better. We potentially had one of the top few drafts of all the teams in 2025. I would personally give him the QB transition, if we have one, and see what he does in the draft and FA one more year before judging him.

Totally in alignment with this reasoning.

Excluding Cleveland because they took two guys but neither in the 1st… The model of taking a guy high and taking a shot down the draft has worked out great for two teams that come to mind as having done it. Purdy, and Kirk Cousins are the guys that saved each draft. I don’t know about a 1st rounder this year for us but if we ever do it again, we should follow those examples.

I feel certain there was a prescribed timeline and probably linked to the 5th year option crossroads.

That is why Vrabel is not here. I was always about the strong defensive minded hard ass as a leader model and would have taken him gladly.

Morgan played MLB at a high level and set a SB record for tackles (11, broken later it stands at 12 now). He knows, he just has to get through the season. This was always going to be the course the team took. Because of the owner and the investment made. If it wasn’t Morgan, anybody else hired as GM would have had the same terms imposed. Give Bryce every chance. In terms of games, in terms of talent around him, that was the mission. I don’t want to give Tepper credit he may not deserve so I won’t say we only have a few more games to suffer, but I hope this is season is enough to settle the issue.

Yeah This is a big part of the challenge. It’s the blind leading the blind without established guys. At the same time the saying is you lose a game fle every rookie you start. Still, I like that we are playing young guys overall.

Hey, tbe first pro game for Bryce vs the first for Cam, nothing needs to be said. EdIt/PS each showed us exactly who they were, first time.

Oh yeah. I have said the same type of thing and no one bought it. They weren’t in the market. If you are inaccurate at +/- 35 yards, it can accidentally land right where you wanted it.

And?

That is where you could find a ton of value. Guys that people gave up on early. It wasn’t 40 fuging games early. They got very few games - or practices some of them. Oops like when Decca records told the Beatles no, that “guitar bands are going out of style” lol. Johnny Unitas. Look up his history. And it was much simpler back then. The history is a great story and plenty of others have similar ones.

Okay that was not the collective or the majority opinion. So how about ‘some people on the Hudde’?

I mean he fits a profile. Can’t be that expensive. I am open to possibilities. Just don’t make him the ONE possibility and I would have no issue with seeing what we can see.

Bam. That’s it. Bryce always looks good until he is at risk.

I am from SC, and was a fan in his college days, and am white and have long hair too. Or I need a haircut anyway. Still, I can’t feel this at all. Too much money and too little certainty. Okay he has been to the playoffs and had a good game or two, but the money is too much for the likely return.

He isn’t getting much help for sure. At the same time, he needs to help himself. I am 50/50 on him and he does need someone worth a damn throwing to him.

Not opposed to drafting a guy to develop but I too favor the trade or FA route.

All the good stuff in here aside, it didn’t take that long for Bryce. I haven’t watched the guy myself. Just sayin.

No. another No another no another no….. shoot me in the back of the head if that happens.

Any QB that his team needs contractually obligate him to doing film study, disqualified.

Bro you have been pimping Bryce for 3 years. LMAO at that.

Yeah. I distinctly remember being apoplectic watching his first game vs Atlanta in 2023. His lack of urgency on the drop and in general, and the lack of downfield throws were the two primary motivators for that. I was against it but the hype on this board was so great, you couldn’t question him. Post draft, camp, preseason. I had held my tongue until I saw him on the field in a real NFL game. Boy oh boy, total confirmation he was a huge mistake. It hasn’t changed much. he hits a lick occasionally where he does well but it flatlines again pretty quickly. The best memory of him that I have is that TD he threw where he knew it was good and turned around and didn’t watch it get caught. That is his high point. It was so good that a lot of people lived on it and are still living on it.

When did Cam ever play like that? I had a couple of issues with him, but not those kinds. I just wanted him to be as good as he could be, because he had all time talent.

I read that writer’s take after Bryce was benched last year and he was slamming the team for Bryce’s trouble. That didn’t age well at all IMO. First he claimed it was over here and proceeded to lambast Tepper. Of course it isn’t Bryce not taking the coaching (footwork, 123 plant throw in 2.7 secs, etc). Never that. Last year and in 2023. We hash out mo better insight right here than these national writers. But it was interesting to see. .