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Man Millen is one of the ones I couldn’t think of when people were talking about bad all time GMs. He is for sure on that list. He was a good player thanks about where it stopped.

Not arguing on something I don’t have much insight into, but how much do you think these scouts were involved in the Bryce decision? I am thinking very little. In general I think they do actually beat the bushes and attend practices and games looking at players and make their lists…. and then confer with the higher ups and the coaching staff, who probably cull the pool and construct the draft big board and the game day draft decisions. Is it substantially different than that?

I don’t know that we need to call it mandatory. If the Right guy is there then okay sure. Even though I really do not want to have to do that. Again. I have this quiet hope that having been around the league enough Canales will have a couple of guys he has been admiring.. that may be blocked or just in the wrong situation. I guess the main thing I want to avoid is another sacred cow that we have invested so much in that they won’t allow him to fail or to be challenged for the job.

I mostly saw them congregating behind the line to gain with eyes towards coming up to meet someone ahead of it. on the longer ‘to go’ downs. And crowding the goal line down close. I did not notice anyone much past 7-8 yards off the LOS on normal downs and distance. Probably more cushion on like, 15 yards to go.

We need a short yardage guy, I feel like they completely dropped the ball on that one. I just rewatched the Atlanta game on speed watch looking for some things and not intending to look at Chuba but man, he was looking really good. Shifty, patient, and sticks his foot in the ground and goes when it is time. I don't like seeing him go but if this line stays healthy we don't need to give someone generational wealth to run the ball behind them.

poo I just rewatched the Atlanta game looking for it. Let's say they fixed that.

Do you know which play that was? Because I just spent a good bit of time watching and may have missed that but I didn't see it. They were 6-8 yards deep most of what I saw, outside the red zone and longer 'to go' downs. That's pretty egregious. I did get tired of watching in the 4th quarter and skimmed through a couple of series so maybe it was there? I did see confusion among the DBs on some plays. And sorry to Wallace but he didn't have much of a game. I don't even know or care what his tackle numbers were, it was how he looked getting them. Maybe I misunderstand his responsibilities and fits but he wasn't really running to the ball they way I am used to seeing. Just looked a little slow and not as physical as I wanted to see. Maybe he is thinking to much.... So on him I will echo earlier comments: he needs to work and get stronger this offseason.

People are loathe to look at this as a two or three year fix, but it was never a one year thing. The Bryce priority skewed things so far to the offensive side that the defense just is what it is. But these picks look a lot better when you frame it to what does 2025 look like. If they pan out and we are about to see Brooks, and they draft defense for immediate impact next draft things should look a lot better.

We don't have enough people to win with on defense. A pro offense can work with what we leave available to them, all day. This is just a grin and bear it scenario because there is only so much any kind of scheming will get you. We are always robbing Peter to pay Paul and neither one has any money.

Balance. Ability to do either. We are still working on that.

Man, it is the classic boss driven edict type poo as far I am concerned. Number one goal is.... QB always to so many people, unless you have one. Mr Billionaire wanted his star, and he was going to get him no matter what. You can split hairs with the Hurney or the Fitterer motivations and alleged advice but there isn't a doubt in my mind who was driving that bus. Hey look. I am argued out after a year and a half of this Bryce Young poo. Believe what you want I would like to say something without it turning into anything other than an opinion. I said from the jump that I knew Canales wasn't ready but I was going to give him the year. Morgan gets the same rope. So I am just not joining in any lynch mob mentality, I want to see the positive and the potential. It requires some patience.

Yeah, It's important to find out about Brooks.

Yeah, as sure as a guess can be that Tepper was driving the QB carousel.

Forgot to quote you Waldo, but anyhow: Getting a new QB every year and not being happy and getting another one is impulsive. Trading everything with no real plan as to who you are talking, impulsive. Taking Bryce wasn't impulsive, just grossly incompetent. I wasn't in favor of Rhule at all. Bad decision. I agree with that. I am not really going to change my view of what is impulsive and impatient and that Tepper was that. Hopefully he has learned some patience.

Wallace was saddled with a lot more than what was ideal. They were working him in but then bang, guess what Trevin, you are starting this week. And oh yeah, you are going to need to make the defensive calls too. If he could just play and have someone else handling all the extra mental stuff of the calls and lining people up, he would probably be showing better. I am not down on him at all.

Yeah take them all out back and shoot them you are sure to be rid the guilty party. If only Tepper could be taken out (I don't mean literally shoot him, but we can't do anything about him). I am gonna say rock bottom was last year. This is better, it is like we were really sick but have turned the corner and are healing. Still weak yes but not getting worse. I understand the whole thing with how the defense got ignored, and I suppose it was worth it to prove that the QB was the biggest issue and not a solution to anything.

I was posting in a reply to you elsewhere that it is hard to see who is driving things. There is a constant in that annual quarterback derby they ran here. Yearly disposable QBs are comparable to a child that gets a shiny new toy and gets tired of it.

He was pretty bad. I am doubtful I praised him, personally. Because I know enough to know that I don't know when it comes to a 4th round player. I barely know when it comes to a 2nd round player. I can see a great athlete but when there are 5 very good prospects at one position, can I tell you which one is the right one? I would be guessing. I know what the team needs, and I can recognize a total poo QB that has a college ceiling, apparently. Sometimes you can just see things for whatever reason. The thing with Fitterer (and Hurney a lot of times) is that is seemed unclear as to who was driving certain decisions, so blaming the right person was kind of guesswork.

Apparently the only thing we agree on is Bryce sucks. I am putting the Brady hire on Rhule. The pushing for the QB on an annual basis is total impatience. The impulsiveness of it, all that was driven by Tepper. IMO.

Whisperer is agent and media hype/catchphrase driven. I don't see any trendy shortcuts being promoted. Miracle cures and that stuff. I would say the real fallacy is when people blamed him for not being able to 'fix' Bryce Young and declare him a charlatan for not turning water into wine. The fallacy being that Young could be fixed and framing that as the sole mission. As far as I am concerned he fixed Bryce because Bryce is no longer a problem. He is solved. Case closed in Carolina, I hope. Better be. He has us pointed in the right direction.

If I had to point to ONE thing, I would say that impatience is why we have had such a miserable run under Tepper. That is the root of all of it, whatever else may be an issue, pales beside that. It drove the bus. Canales is my hero right now. Stood up to Tepper and backed it up. Got us out from under the crushing weight of Bryce Young in record time. I don't think I can overstate how fuging right that was, from where I sit. I'll give him all the time he needs within reason. OJT, fine with me as long as I see him learning and not repeating the same mistakes. The only thing I can see at this time that would turn me off is lack of urgency towards fixing the defensive side of things. Like, if they do another top two picks of offense, drafting Qb in 1 and anther WR in the 2nd, poo like that, with no respect paid to the defensive game, I will turn on them in short order.

Oh yeah, I heard Mahomes all over. When he started out so poorly there was the Peyton Manning had a rough rookie season too! Troy Aikman. And so on. Never hey Ryan Leaf had a shitty first year and a shitty second year People comparing him to Brees was just ridiculous, size wise. He isn't close. Unless this is close: If you actually look, Bryce is to Drew Brees, as Drew Brees is to 225 6'4".

It is probably going to be Canales in charge of a QB quest, to whatever degree they take that to. If he is motivated to do Fields out of however many options there are then so be it. Probably though, if Fields keeps this up he won't be made available. Talking about 11 or 12 wins and some real nice TD to INT numbers.

Death of anyone close at a young age is really tough. Your mama would be really horrible. Yeah. Too bad he couldn't channel all that pain into his game.

They have a lot of people here on shorter terms, don't they?