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And can I ask, again, if anyone is knowledgeable about what roles the scouts actually play in selecting players? As opposed to finding them for the higher ups to evaluate? I could be wrong as hell because I don't know, but I'd think they do the prospecting and culling to present the better options to the people who will be doing the real evaluating. Someone did something right on Coker fwiw. Anyone knows the inside scoop of what their responsibilities really are, spill.

That is the key to meeting with the coaches. Just get the progress report. Ask, if you want, what they think of how player x is doing? What plans are in store? What do we think of the team we are facing Sunday? That's all fine, or there is no harm in it. Don't cross the line and inject yourself into the decision making on the day to day. adding: it probably wouldn't kill anything if he asked why a certain decision was made, as long as he just gathers the info and doesn't start with the 'suggesting'.

A troll the fans article IOW. adding: I haven't paid much attention to Mike Kaye, was he a big advocate for Bryce? Excited that he was the pick? That type of thing?

Especially if starting Bryce Young again is true. What is the point of having him? Young can be incomplete or just not target Legette all day long, as he did in the last game he played. Same difference if the guy won't pull the trigger, can't see where he is throwing, etc.

Not disputing the differences in production of defending TMJ/Mingo, but this would ignore the QB situation they functioned inside of. And the other assets on O. If you put Mingo and TMJ with prime Cam, they would look better than they have with Bryce Young. We are really missing a stud TE, for example. Which those guys had with Olsen.

I don't think the meetings, or wanting them, is a problem in itself. It is more like him ignoring his limitations next to professionals, and using his power to feed his ego in those meetings that would wrench things up.

The truth is to be successful at HC you have to command respect. Couple of random grab from the air examples... I know they are old some people here won't even know Buddy Ryan or Mike Martz. Look at Mike Martz - offensive genius but not a leader of a football team. Buddy Ryan - defensive genius but not a leader of a football team. Sure there are great X/O guys that are successful head coaches but that is just part of it. You will not succeed without the other qualities. Which is unique to the HC position in football as that X/O is what gets you ahead as a coordinator where most HC hirees are pulled from. Every guy that rose in the NFL knows his X/Os at a pretty high level, that's a given. Not everyone has the strategic creativity, but that alone won't get it done. You just don't have be a great X/O guy to get that respect. It mostly comes from telling the truth, treating people fair, and displaying integrity and courage to do what is right when stuff gets tough. I have a hard time defining it but we know it when we are exposed to it with people. I know Wilks had it (he had only excelled as a DB coach, he had no great coordinator chops). I really think Canales may have enough to get the ball rolling before he flames out. I hope. Asserting himself and getting Bryce removed from affecting the outcome of games was major display of leadership. Really alpha. He kind of reminds me of Dick Vermeil a little. Just intense and driven.

He hasn't hired a Super Bowl winning coach. That will probably be the next plan, if this fails. I am not sure this will fail though if he will just stay away from dictating football stuff. Unless you believe they will really start Young for 7 games (which I don't and am sick of hearing about Bryce Young), the staff has asserted control and he so far is allowing it to be that way. If the staff really has autonomy, he has taken a big step towards being successful.

The selling points of the Panthers would be generally, an offensive mindset from the coach. A chance to work as the number one and enjoy the focus and the ego stroke of being lead dog. And possibly a dollar or two difference in being paid like a number one over a sidekick elsewhere. That's about all I got right now. Things I don't know are how he likes the city, the coaching staff and his teammates, and how he views the near future of the team. Maybe he believes winning is not that far away, maybe he doesn't. edit: as far as money, how many of you would be happy with 19 million per vs 20? Some people don't put the absolute value of getting an extra nickel when you are talking about getting more money than you ever imagined possible growing up.

I'd take a 12 pack. And celebrate.

I couldn't pie that enough. The SB or bust mentality is all or nothing, kind of like "perfection is the enemy of good". You said it better than I could. I characterized it as impatience. And didn't say it this way but it is a shortcut mentality I think, in a way. Don't want to take the time to build, want it now.

For me it wasn't really that serious a proposition but more a way to let off steam and have some levity; because this Bryce poo is oppressive and not a bit of fun. However if we came with something really cool that could communicate to Tepper to stay the fug out of the football decisions, that could be good.

It is time for him to move on to the rest of his life because the NFL ain't for him.

I don't remember why I didn't like him, but it has proven to be a fairly insightful reaction to date.

This coming from an immature person that leaves poo on people's posts that he doesn't like. And just fuging insults people. Yeah I am about tired of your poo. I mean, you seriously might be the dumbest motherfuger here.

I get amused at the people that think a petition to sell the team could actually do anything. Like, how far have you thought this through?

If we could trade down not too far and pick up enough to get back in at the end of the first, it is something that would interest me. Depending on what things look like by that time as far as how what they might be able to do with the picks.

Might take some illegal help.

Too MUCH! But hey let's define and refine our message.

Yeah no doubt. The counter to that is the Green Bay Game last year. The one everyone used to vouch for him, and it came after he had been 'ruined' for 13 games. How ironic, the very game they used to prop him up is the game that 'ruined' their narrative. There were only two games left and he wasn't ruined then, obviously. Came out for 2024 and was as bad as you will ever see for two games to get his ass sat down. After that Buffalo drive and all that. Let them think it is the Panthers' fault he can't play.

He cared enough to stop in and pull a guy's hat off his head though. And that sign generated a lot of publicity. It *could* take on a small life of its own if it was an attention getter. It would better to be like a fun riddle that once people figured it out they would talk about it. Something that grabs eyes easily but doesn't go explicitly 'there' could have some build up. I mean you don't want to elicit sympathy for your target because you are crass about it by being too blunt.

We'd be keeping him then. But the thought that he is the only legit commodity on the market could play to the team's advantage.

If he would actually run the script, that could be entertaining. He'd probably just check it down or bail and sail like usual.

Here is how it works. This word: S H 1 T. He is the SH. No SH no IT.

I feel like he is the best shot we've had. I mean, benching Bryce is Alpha even if he sounds like a metro when he talks.