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That is the biggest thing, his floor is Andy vs Buffalo bad and he has not raised it to where we know we won’t see that again. We have seen it opening the season three years running. His ceiling is Dallas, but that hasn’t happened but a small handful of games in 2.5 years. And he has yet to show that if a decent team shuts down our run game they will pay. I think he needs to show that in these remaining games or we should move away from him.

It doesn’t have to be Tepper saying XL or else. people want to analyze in a vacuum of their value system. If you put yourself into the place and time and circumstances to find the motivations for why something was done, you are way out of that nice pure vacuum. Surely I don’t need to restate that our leading receiver from 2023 played a position different from what XL would play? How they are brand new hires tasked with Bryce as priority number one for the 2024 season. They wanted to add to AT. I could keep typing but you what I mean. They did a need pick for the short term because they had pressure on them to get that QB going. They did much better this past year on the WR pick. I kind of got over it.

Lol, yeah. One that costs more than that mascot will make in a lifetime.

If you talk Bryce on his 3rd coach, not counting interim, I can’t do it. edit: we have a season to play out. Just fuging let that happen before we go to firing more coaches.

Yeah, brilliant. Keep Coach killer. Build a college offense. Perfect. I wasn’t saying that to defend Canales, just that it is the next illogical step in the excuse parade. Anybody’s fault but Bryce. Always. Consistency is important.

It’s happened before. Precedent. They’ll start blaming Canales too.

my money is on what Bryce wants Tepper makes sure he gets.

Velopment was probably what was needed.

Shaq knowing the calls and nothing being changed, apparently, is the biggest issue. Or maybe right alongside the 31st run D argument. it is a major fugup. Maybe some signals compromised in the Jax game too if you listen to Saleh. But Shaq knowing the checks and stuff is something you Have to account for. I had that in mind and then we lost the board for hours and just forgot it. Here is where I believe you have to be with a green coach: you know you are going to get rookie mistakes, you see if he learns from it. Two games for the Chuba issue. He is a team captain and got some deference. I didn’t like it especially after we saw the Jets game but I get it. And let’s not pretend if a good run D wants to shut RICO down, they can’t do it. Because they will. Somebody will.

That is valid. I don’t use it but I will do a search and often end up there on an answer to the question. But I can’t navigate that place or don’t want the bother of it I should say.

Well, we weren’t expecting success (rational people anyway) we were looking for signs of it in the future. Some people saw things that weren’t there they wanted it so bad.

Well this specifically is something that is being characterized a certain way by someone grinding an axe.

I have criticized them for that. All the good that it does.

You what, fug off. You could have said that but want to be shitty.

Did they say that before or after we traded up? Draft lying is an art. I know, for the millionth time, but I give no cred to a coach that wasn’t just being nice. If he really thought Young was the 1.1 or 1.5, he loses cred with me. An (relative to them) idiot like me could see it clearly. Unless that brain of his could levitate footballs it wasn’t happening.

Nah, that’s you incoherently venting. I get that. The question was about firing the guy if he didn’t fix an unfixable player. The question of what the agreement was, has to be asked. Again, who with any sense would agree to fix Bryce Young if the price for failure was you are fired along with Young? I guess a guy that could see a payday would do that. Which you didn’t offer as a rebuttal btw. Taking the job on,y makes sense in three circumstances. You actually do think you can fix him. My least likely of the three but possible. You say if anyone can fix him I can, but it is a big job. You get assurances that if he is unfixable you get a chance with your guy. Money grab.

Well, yeah. Next year will be the first since it was done that we will get to use our draft picks. 3 years of prime talent traded for dude that was the beneficiary of a mass formation operation by the media.

I couldn’t believe they did that. Then I looked at the options which were a midget college player and an Ohio State QB, that looked much better but still… the price? Screw that.

BTW I feel another crash coming. Just got cut off about ten minutes ago and could tell something was up with the page loads.

100%. I can’t stand that. Besides arbitrarily burying under appreciated outside the box ideas it encourages groupthink. That is why I could never warm to the place. I only hear about the way it is otherwise because I just can’t hang with the format. It seems really convoluted.

That answers nothing above. I get it you hate him.

Well if that transpired I would stand on your side. I am a show me type. Don’t tell me, do it. Show me this playbook is the same a legit QB would get, to start with. Maybe get him off the play calling. I’ll allow that I don’t like his kumbaya approach, that is how a woman would sees things. And we are dealing with men.

You do it because the hope or maybe the assurance that if the player is unfixable you don’t get thrown out with him. Otherwise who ever looks at a Bryce Young and takes that job?

I might need to go read about that. The way you frame it here is that he basically sent those guys off to debate that question. Which I would agree is not an approach that I would value. There is validity to the approach but you have to have the players to do it with. If you don’t they will stop you. You know you have a great team if they know what,s coming and still can’t stop it.

I felt similar, that he fuged it up off the bat. Should have started with Rico. But Andy…. Good lord. I doubt anyone saw his mental failure as a possible threat. And he kept doing it.