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Probably talking about two different things but I think they intersect at the point of backyard football with the shift to prioritizing athleticism. Because athleticism pays off without having to do the development. You see it in OTs when scouts don’t know how to assess their aptitude for the pro game. 10-15 years at least. And you see it in the QBs too. I think it goes with the overall thing in society where instant gratification trumps all these days. If you buy into that.

The idea is… you asked AI for busts because you wanted a bust to compare to. Could have just said QBs but you wanted busts. In the other scenario, people wanted success stories. There were plenty of busts that had shitty rookie years but that didn’t suit the agenda. They needed successful draft picks with a rough first year. They found some, and excluded the returns that didn’t suit their agenda… those who had a shitty second year too lol, and busted out. And those are largely the names you offered when approaching it from a different angle, one where those names would bolster your assertion. I just thought it was noteworthy.

And I don’t understand why you call on me to produce strawman stats. If you have a point, which stats cannot make in relation to my statement in the first place, put them up. Again, if a guy can throw 40 yards on a rope, and another guy 20, and they count the SAME… who is getting discounted? Short changed? Need a hint?

You ignored the rest of my comment, conveniently. That way you don’t have to acknowledge it. That’s fine. When you let 20 yards into such a category, there isn’t anything left. The guy that can zip on in there at 40 where Bryce has to float in it, is basically discounted 50%. Here it is… you love Bryce. If he was the guy that could do a 40 yard rope, you would support the opposite position. That’s what this is. Not an honest real evaluation of talent and ability, but a self serving strategic debate that will shamelessly exploit any loophole that suits the agenda.

Okay in baseball and in football you build inside out and need to be strong up to middle. It still is valid after over 100 years. I am pretty much thinking ILB is a glaring weakness and shouldn’t be ignored. Fix it. If we get great edge guys, all the other QB has to do is throw over the middle, poo will be open. And if that isn’t true I don’t even care because I still have years of watching what a talented ILB can do for a defense. Across the league and for sure with the Panthers. I want one no doubt dog and one real good sidekick. Watch things get good. Thank you in advance.

I feel like that is a result of the state of the game in college and the state of the players that that they produce. This has been a long time coming. I don’t have stats for this but I feel like the NFL is well on the decline regarding the quality of the product they are putting on the field. I imagine it is really tough to be a scout or GM now with this NIL foolishness. The players used to spend 3 or 4 years under a staff where people knew what they were being taught at least. What system they were going to be raised in. Now it is a year here, a year there, no structure. This will further degrade the NFL product IMO if allowed to run free like it is now. .

20 yards gets you in the club. They have fuged this all up. If a guy can do the same trajectory and velocity throw at 40 that Bryce can do at 20, who is getting under appreciated?

Let’s see… young people know young people perspective things. People that survive into old age or seniorhood lol, we were young also. We have that, and we have the added perspective of many more years and situations. The old people know a whole lot more than your youthful arrogance allows you to understand. FTR. So STFU with your disrespect for our experience.

He scares me with those comments he made. What’s to stop him from retiring if he is traded? Maybe he really is burned out.

Your examples are very telling. It’s funny. Not ha ha funny, more like ironically humorous. When that rookie season was down there with AR and Jamarcus, what we heard over and over was Peyton Manning had a horrible rookie season. So did… Brees, Elway, all your picks that became uLara successful. Never ‘hey Jamarcus had a shitty rookie year… and a shitty sophomore year’ etc. … uh oh. Never that. The comparisons alway favor the Bryce fan’s hopes and don’t allow for the real possibility he isn’t those guys. Whatever side or angle you bring them from. Always the bright side. It’s entertaining at least, a little, in its consistency. Can people see what has been done, scheme wise and personnel wise to make him somewhat viable? I wonder about that.

You are dictating a ‘settle’. Like you can only have one, you can’t have both. Fine if you can only have one, it isn’t the worst choice. But it is settling by nature because there are people with both. It is simple, we have limited ourselves by choosing a player who has narrower margins for error than guys with the traditional QB physical attributes that people came to so highly value. And some people are happy about that. Truth has always been that we made it harder on ourselves than it had to be. As Parcels said, he needs to walk on water. That is expecting a lot. And we now have to feed that beast.. there is a fundamental divide here that will never resolve. Even if he elevates his play.

So that’s what it is. All I knew was it gets worse as you age. my anatomical expertise is specialized and focuses on the females of our species, so I did not know that.

Way to make poo personal.

Me either. On the laptop it is right there. Not in the iPad or phone that I am able find. Now I did see something I plan on trying and that is where they have chapters and you can go there and click on a segment. I will try to link to that instead of the main title. I just don’t post much video so haven’t tried that yet but it should work.

Cosell is Tucker’s hook. The main attraction. Yes he will pump him up. Cosell is normally pretty astute. He sees the thing with the confidence the team is gaining with the success. I don’t think he is under any illusion about the Bryce baseline when you disregard the late game efficiency, just knows it can work as long as Bryce keeps that up. Which I guess it can, but to really be a threat to go deep we will need a much better defense, and can’t let the talent around him drop off even a little.

As we should be. Long overdue. Now be ready with an answer when they pull a player away from run support.

We for sure could be a different defense with a stud ILB. And adjacent or sequential picks. While you can usually find a reason to rationalize any gamble, maybe limit yourself. There is still a window for Wilson to be a bad decision. He isn’t in the clear yet.

I’m not sure the bend don’t break doesn’t hold the points totals in check, at least. And normally we are not a quick strike threat nor a big threat to break 30. LA we had a pick 6 for example. We had a 3 game stretch where I don’t think we even scored 40 cumulative points. And were 2-1. Bills Jets Packers. I think. If I got that right, I also think it is the only time we won 2 straight. Lol.

I would think it is. Devastating. Torn apart main muscle…. I am not trying to be inflexible or to put him at an elevated risk just wondering where the medical boundaries are compared to 5 or 10 years ago. If they have changed. Generally you need to protect the player from himself.

True enough but medical procedures a have been rapidly advancing and you would have to think he has access to the best doctors, therapists, etc. So is it the same as it was ten years ago? 5 years? I don’t know but would think the possibility exists that they can fix and rehab it. I mean, I have seen him get pushed around before so am not calling him Superman. But just say that maybe a guy goes down this week, you never know, our depth is pretty thin. If he could be available we would certainly be better off.

. We’re paying him big money. We are in a position to win the division for the first time in 8 years. If he is ready he is an upgrade and our depth can go back to being depth. It really comes down to how he feels and what the medical opinions are. And then you proceed. If he isn’t ready, absolutely don’t put him out there but to assume he will be Brooks, you should have a good basis for it which I doubt you know and know I don’t. Also if he is Brooks, Brooks’ repair was likely gonna fail regardless and we found out in time to react, so now we have Rico. If Hunt is not going to heal, let’s find out sooner rather than later.

I think that already happened.

That’s fair. Young has gotten the benefit of every doubt ever, and other players get the business hard. And no one minds that for some reason. Let’s have one standard for them all.

The thing is, he needs near perfect conditions to make those really big throws. Need that xtra step, that run up to launch. He ain’t standing there flat footed throwing it 35-40 yards. This same argument , last year, one of the Bryce fans had to go back to Alabama to get a big throw on YouTube as proof. So, sometimes it can happen. I am not saying he hasn’t surprised me with a few extra yards, I guess the point would be it is a surprise and not an every day reliable thing. I wish we had a guy that could zing one 25 yards on a rope with a wrist flick for the simple reason that that is a big advantage in those situations.

I hear that but also the QB isn’t getting the depth on the first step like he is supposed to. That came in a press conference with the head coach. Faulted both players. As far as Hunt, a fresh Hunt at this stage of the season could be a nice boost if he is ready.