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Same reason Smitty had some years with low production.

Okay I usually kill threads not start them. But I was wondering what people think about something. What do you guys think Bryce would command on the open market next year? Just interested to hear your thoughts. If he was a UFA.

Yes they did. I was working with people and was in Charlotte a few times that season. But we travelled on a bus and left Sunday mornings. While I was watching Panther fans come for the game. Hard to take. I would be able to get the radio broadcast but rarely got to watch a game, wherever we were leaving from on Sunday. But every damn one almost was a primer on finding new ways to lose. Which is why I valued the Jets win, and the Packers win this year. Even though they were really rough.

I sort of get it. But we can get what he gives us for way less than the 35-36 million the next two years will cost us, while we look. He’ll make someone a nice bridge QB if they have an OL.

I didn’t watch much of Howell in DC but know he surprised me. Sacked more than Bryce I think, still performed pretty well I think. Has an arm. Is tough. Can probably hand the ball off just as good as Bryce can. And maybe can run better play action.

Pulling out the Parcels line for this one. He better walk on water.

You are giving them a lot of credit. I don’t trust the team when it comes to Bryce Young, they have given me zero reason to. We’ll see.

Yes, but Canales has a say as well. If he keeps minimizing him it will be harder to know. I am hoping it plays out where people sell out to stop Rico and there is no other choice but to start throwing it around a little. That’s what we need to see, when they dare him to beat them with his arm, can he come through?

Used to like Camden until he got in on the going to Tepper crew in 2023.

Absent a really impressive multi game performance by Young, you have to do this or something like it.

Oh I see what you meant by memory. I will trust my memory, I have looked a a lot of those ball charts for Bryce and they trend a general pattern. They thing that has changed that I have noticed more recently is the reduction in the bunching of behind or at the LOS passes over to his right. Aside from the quantity of throws recently since the running game has become a more dominant factor.

I think if you Moneyball it, the point would be that you can get the same production for a lot less than committing 35-37 million or whatever it is, for 2026 and 2027. Don’t even mention extension.

Only a few really like him. And a few were completely against drafting him and have yet to be proven wrong. Lots of people,who bought in but have crossed over. If you haven’t watched every game you really don’t know. He was fairly effective against your team, I’d say you saw the good side.

Other QBs do too. It is on one hand, fair to measure him against the others based on the same standards. On the other hand, those standards are suspect IMO. Too loose. Like calling 20 yards a deep ball devalues actual deep balls. What we used to think of as deep before FF scoring influenced so much.

It’ll be someone else’s fault too. OL most likely, or those WRs not having 10 foot arms.

Well you can get chicken or egg with why, and debate that but at a glance you can see obvious differences. Some are stark. I am going with the casual fan overview that tells me he is putting less on Bryce’s plate. Looks to me he is calling the plays he knows the QB can handle. Just the hits. No deep cuts.

I lived there about 3 years, left in 1980. It was mostly Red Sox, Celtics and Bruins. They didn’t care much about the Pats. I can only imagine once they got going with Brady. Except for the long ass cold as hell winters (why I left) that place was pretty great in that time but I wouldn’t want to be there now. Unless I was rich. And if I was rich I would be somewhere else… But the abundance, quality and eclectic variety of live music available on even on a Tuesday night, and the big city sports, plus the food variety was great. Except for southern food lol. They had one soul food place that was kind of okay. Sports because daily newspapers had so much pro sports coverage. Which you can get from anywhere now but not back then.

I just looked at the page with every game on it, it is pretty easy to see without going into the page for a given week. There is stuff unlike any chart of Bryce’s that I recall. And a couple are markedly different that the rest indicating a plan of attack for that game. I just took a quick sampling off the main page it looks pretty obvious. For anyone that is curious https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/charts/list/pass/tampabay-buccaneers/2023/week

I am not going through all that either but maybe looking at TB passing charts with Mayfield could offer a clue. Which I have not done since I just thought of it but is little easier to quantify. I mean when you look at Bryce’s the thing that stands out recently is a reduction of the clusters on the right side behind or at the LOS. But there are areas that are consistent. Middle, 10-15 yards or so, same down the right sideline, stuff like that. I look and see those things and thing if I’m a DC I am posting a dude in those areas full time.

Las Vegas last year looked like the reins were off too. Opened it up.

Like I said in the edit, got my years wrong. Was thinking 2022 with him here for some reason. Caught it, added a note.

How many kids did she have? With that, and three coke cans working on it, well use your imagination. I am not sure she helped herself there.

Makes me think maybe a policy of no threads started until the conclusion of the game would not be a bad idea. Plenty of room in the game thread for bitching or crowning.

I don’t understand the point of Mayfield 2023. what was he in 2024 and this year? Although losing Evans might cut this year back a little. (scratch that 2023, I was off a year). Two things, something like 1.5, give or take, more per game gives you in the range of 22-28 more over a season. Even 1 is 17 more shots. And if you are successful on one or two of your three, you have established the threat as real, and can operate the near field more freely. Which besides the chance at a quick score, is the point of doing it.

He was an option in 2023 that we rejected to trade the farm for the magic beans, if I remember right.