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I don’t understand the neg comparisons to Allen but there is no perfect player. Every one of them could do better, with few exceptions. It’s a lot, being great at every aspect. My thing with Cam was HOF greatness unfulfilled. I wish he had visibly addressed things that were not 100% to potential, and I would feel much better about how it all went. I feel he left a fair amount on the football table. Maybe he did a ton of work people didn’t see but the first offseason he went back to college. I had a different plan lol. But he went his entire career without learning how to take something off the ball (until his shoulder forced that). He was kind of the ultimate power hitter that strikes out a lot. You have to take that along with the homers. We had to take the overthrows and the finger breakers that guys couldn’t handle along with the superman stuff. He was man among boys at times. I just thought he was so gifted that it came too easy for him and he left things on the table. I guess some people will be all mad about saying he wasn’t perfect. Now that stuff about did he understand the game, I wonder because of the simplicity of the offense and the reliance on his legs, but then there is that “oh, you been watching film huh? Watch this” which is the greatest audio ever. So what are you gonna say about that now? I can’t say anything. I would say he understands it. I do think that had he somehow gotten footwork together and benefitted from some improved accuracy, he would have been HOF shoo in and there would have been some real hardware. As to McDermott saying that style of play always loses in the long career department or however he said it, I agree with that. I don’t know what he could have meant by ruining.

Can’t edit the Braves link out either and wth is that doing there lol. Sorry.

Can’t edit to add so back to back… In the video the says he is The Best QB Prospect yada yada go to 4:39 which is a play vs Auburn, that is being held up as an example of him setting his feet and being great. I don’t understand what setting your feet means, apparently. It is in there somewhere right before the extra stuff in his windup and delivery. I think, but seems to be the move that initiates his throwing process. I’ll just move along to the point. Okay, somewhere around thew 30 yard line he takes a step that would be “up into the pocket” and …now, time to throw (for guys with good arms). But he then takes a running start to launch the ball finally from maybe the 37 being generous, it could be past that. His front foot, after the release, looks to be past the 38. It is hard to be more exact at that angle. I am trying to round down, in his favor, when I don’t feel sure, trying to be as fair as possible. But it is pretty clear there are at least two more strides advancing towards the target before starting the windup or loading the ball into throwing position. That’s what I called the running start. There are a lot of guys who can throw that with a flick of the wrist standing flat footed. Know that, and ignore it, you better have a great reason. I don’t see it. That is the sort of stuff that I took into pre draft discussions. Which is a cohttp://www.chopcountry.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=2mpletely ‘nother sad story, because precious few were interested in a considering a different opinion. All I can say is why shouldn’t people look at that and ask how that translates to the NFL? If they shouldn’t, why the hell not? It is you turn to explain that as far as I am concerned. College tape doesn’t really hide these things either so keep on with that it just helps teach people. That tape shows you a lot if you are not focusing on the result of the play. And it isn’t that there aren’t some great plays, the first question there is, to me, would those be great plays against even a sub par NFL defense? That may lead to a different answer, and just that there is a valid question is enough for me to downgrade. To put the player’s value at him being worth what they traded? Hell I was screaming No and it will never make sense. To me, he was still a huge gamble even at 9 because of that tippy toe ridiculousness alone.

That doesn’t work out so well. They aren’t playing Arkansas with a DC that rushes 3 and maybe has a couple of defensive players that were drafted. So congratulations to those guys, but they were late round guys who did make a roster and are backups now. Montaric Brown CB and Ridgeway a DT second string for Ron in DC. Waived by the team that drafted him (Dallas). People that insist the SEC is equal to NFL competition, when evaluating talent. That is apparently this poster’s thing. But the SEC absolutely isn’t the NFL and using it as a measuring stick will come up incomplete at best, most of the time. May be the closest thing, but that is like saying Venus is close to Earth. Or maybe the moon.

It’d be 37 to 10 Wilkses and Darnolds ovcer the Tepper Big Wheels offense. 7 of the 10 would be on a Darnold turnover, 10 of the 37 would be off Young's turnovers.

What I looked at in the first game? First game if not preseason/camp. The benching for injury early tells you it didn’t take long. Frank knew he was screwed in April and May. Tried to be a good soldier until he saw it was useless.

Whatever it is I am guessing it was a throwaway or a OB deep ball.