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Yeah take them all out back and shoot them you are sure to be rid the guilty party. If only Tepper could be taken out (I don't mean literally shoot him, but we can't do anything about him). I am gonna say rock bottom was last year. This is better, it is like we were really sick but have turned the corner and are healing. Still weak yes but not getting worse. I understand the whole thing with how the defense got ignored, and I suppose it was worth it to prove that the QB was the biggest issue and not a solution to anything.

I was posting in a reply to you elsewhere that it is hard to see who is driving things. There is a constant in that annual quarterback derby they ran here. Yearly disposable QBs are comparable to a child that gets a shiny new toy and gets tired of it.

He was pretty bad. I am doubtful I praised him, personally. Because I know enough to know that I don't know when it comes to a 4th round player. I barely know when it comes to a 2nd round player. I can see a great athlete but when there are 5 very good prospects at one position, can I tell you which one is the right one? I would be guessing. I know what the team needs, and I can recognize a total poo QB that has a college ceiling, apparently. Sometimes you can just see things for whatever reason. The thing with Fitterer (and Hurney a lot of times) is that is seemed unclear as to who was driving certain decisions, so blaming the right person was kind of guesswork.

Apparently the only thing we agree on is Bryce sucks. I am putting the Brady hire on Rhule. The pushing for the QB on an annual basis is total impatience. The impulsiveness of it, all that was driven by Tepper. IMO.

Whisperer is agent and media hype/catchphrase driven. I don't see any trendy shortcuts being promoted. Miracle cures and that stuff. I would say the real fallacy is when people blamed him for not being able to 'fix' Bryce Young and declare him a charlatan for not turning water into wine. The fallacy being that Young could be fixed and framing that as the sole mission. As far as I am concerned he fixed Bryce because Bryce is no longer a problem. He is solved. Case closed in Carolina, I hope. Better be. He has us pointed in the right direction.

If I had to point to ONE thing, I would say that impatience is why we have had such a miserable run under Tepper. That is the root of all of it, whatever else may be an issue, pales beside that. It drove the bus. Canales is my hero right now. Stood up to Tepper and backed it up. Got us out from under the crushing weight of Bryce Young in record time. I don't think I can overstate how fuging right that was, from where I sit. I'll give him all the time he needs within reason. OJT, fine with me as long as I see him learning and not repeating the same mistakes. The only thing I can see at this time that would turn me off is lack of urgency towards fixing the defensive side of things. Like, if they do another top two picks of offense, drafting Qb in 1 and anther WR in the 2nd, poo like that, with no respect paid to the defensive game, I will turn on them in short order.

Oh yeah, I heard Mahomes all over. When he started out so poorly there was the Peyton Manning had a rough rookie season too! Troy Aikman. And so on. Never hey Ryan Leaf had a shitty first year and a shitty second year People comparing him to Brees was just ridiculous, size wise. He isn't close. Unless this is close: If you actually look, Bryce is to Drew Brees, as Drew Brees is to 225 6'4".

It is probably going to be Canales in charge of a QB quest, to whatever degree they take that to. If he is motivated to do Fields out of however many options there are then so be it. Probably though, if Fields keeps this up he won't be made available. Talking about 11 or 12 wins and some real nice TD to INT numbers.

Death of anyone close at a young age is really tough. Your mama would be really horrible. Yeah. Too bad he couldn't channel all that pain into his game.

They have a lot of people here on shorter terms, don't they?

That's what I used to say about Darnold. I think if you go through enough of that and last long enough, you have a jump on things coming into a situation. Because you've been exposed to so much. I haven't watched him that close, just seen him play kind of shitty or just okay, a couple of times with the Bears. That was my impression. Might watch a Steelers game. I know DJ liked him, which was good sign.

That was just a quick find out what they had to say. Great is subjective. I don't how many great QBs Canales was really around. Grain of salt there. The takeaway for me is he has a 'system', a plan, some professional knowledge; somewhat of a track record. And he may not be the best, or have the pedigree, but everybody has to start somewhere. I honestly think he might be better suited for the situation we're in than any of the other employees in recent years. That come to mind. At a serious QB crossroads, he is a QB guy. I'm good with it. There are certainly some personal things that are question marks. And back to his job, there is a lot on his plate. That is a high pressure job without adding QB tutor to it. One year as OC. To me, giving him a season or even two to get this poo really tight to where progress shows up, probably the best shot we will get for a little while. I'd like to see some stability. So I go easy on him. I admit it.

Better than I thought. I don't see Wilson improving on that at all.

He is very good. I think people are getting sticker shock. I have no issue with re-upping him if we can afford to.

yeah we saw that on offense last year.

His ceiling is pretty low. If they bench him for Wilson? Proof.

Good lord, please no.

I would not trade much at all for him. Pass completely. Not interested, really. Okay, maybe Bryce straight up but who would give Fields for that?

“When it comes to his relationship with the quarterback, with Bryce, he’s a guy who has been around a lot of great quarterbacks,” Smith said, via Mike Kaye of The Charlotte Observer. “And he knows how to coach them. He’s coached some really good quarterbacks, and he has a system, he has a style, he knows exactly what he wants done and how he wants it done. And he’s going to get Bryce to do that through repetition, through practice, through meeting time and classroom and the film room.” ------------------ In his first year with the Buccaneers under the stewardship of Canales, Mayfield was selected to the Pro Bowl for the first time in his career after throwing for 4,044 yards, 28 touchdowns, and 10 interceptions. ------------------- Okay so maybe he isn't Bill Walsh or Mike Holmgren Brian Billick or whoever.... these are not exactly condemnations.

If you look at Cam's youtube video on Bryce Young's benching and failure, he will enumerate every asset he was given over Bryce, himself. Horse's mouth. And it wasn't nothing. But he acts like Bryce was not given anything and that is not true - as shown in his 2024 "I am not an NFL QB" promo clip.

It is a conditional 3rd that could be a 2nd (doubtful but not impossible).

Yeah. Imma brighten this up with 'our current people found Coker and got him for Nothing'. So the evals are looking up.

The constant staff turnover is a factor for sure. I think, realistically, we should continue with the scheme so we can at least not take big steps backwards. I know the argument could be that we have nothing and it is the right tie to change it because we have nothing to lose, but I would be hesitant. We have some young players with some potential playing in this scheme right now and the depth guys are getting a lot of experience as well. You go changing it again and wtf, more years of pain. Just stick another 3/4 DC type in there and keep rolling (over, lol).

A couple of things here for people who think he isn't. Or just for some validation. Keyshawn totally speaks for me. Everything I thought, he says. Merriman, is so wrong but he did not have the benefit at the time, of seeing Dalton with the same offense a few days later, and fell into the typically lame 'Panthers ruined him' trap. Which the Green Bay game totally debunks, but of course he probably didn't see that either. The other one, just for some reinforcement. If you like the Falcons struggling, rewind 30 seconds.

Dominoes falling.