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Iron on iron, yeah that is great. And true. What about the iron on plastic we have all over the place lol

An advantage is intrinsically important, and I just explained why 70 yard boy had the arm advantage. And it equates to effective range, which probably is also of some importance.

I could have accepted a gamble on Bryce in the late first but I agree. I mean I wouldn’t have been happy but that is about as high as I could understand given the risk. He was just off of my board if he was going so high. Flutie was the closest I can think of size wise and he had a real good arm if I recall. I’m not going to look for Flutie highlights. But he was very close to Young in height and weight. My thing is we are in a different era and speed is more a part of the game than ever, and certainly 20 years ago which was about Flutie’s last season when he was pretty much done even as a backup. He was the closest to being something that I can remember. And he sort of was, but that was 25-30 years ago. I’m real skeptical of that translating to modern day.

Saw that. Rams released him too. It was a little confusing, I didn’t push a search. I think he was released by the Rams after 2023 and signed with Cleveland and was released on injury deal and went to the Rams where the same thing happened? I was confused over it but being released so quickly was a red flag to me so I didn't mention him. He is hurt at the moment I think. And he may be a vested vet which keeps some of them, off of the waiver wire they go straight to UFA. Or vet FA, whatever it is. But they can sign wioth whoever and can’t be claimed.

This is what I answered, directly and quoted this in my reply, even ^^^^ And I specified, or ‘enlightened’ as requested. You just mad because people are basically pining over it - because they know we will never see that type of throw as long as Bryce is throwing the passes. See above.

I am hearing rollout scuttlebutt here and there which I expected but don’t like a lot. It is okay if used sparingly but the D can ignore half the field pretty much so you are sort of running into a box canyon.

I looked around at some articles speculating on camp cuts. Thin on C. Like none. These the top bubble type players, cap casualties, etc. There is some edge maybe out there and some OTs out there that can play G too. I don’t get to see Zavala every day and maybe they see something, but from what I have seen he could be cut and replaced by another swing capable guy that could G or T. From what I could find of the waiver rules we are 1st refusal, based on our record and draft order... That stays until Week 3 of the regular season concludes. A day after. Meaning we could claim this guy, claim that guy, never losing 1st choice. I mean, you have to make a roster spot but that’s it. I think. Thank goodness they couldn’t trade that to Chicago too.

Maybe we can snag a backup at cuts, we have the top slot. We couldn’t trade that I guess.

We’ve seen some of them though. Edit: that said, I expect Mike Sanders to have a better year.

Well we are stuck and have to pin hopes on Corbett. If Zavala is playing at Guard what can you run? He is horrible. So the guy behind him on the depth chart steps in? It’s hard to be worse I guess. Otherwise, with the protections you’d have to think the TEs and RBs are drawn up to help on the edge or wherever.. and I really am not seeing it but haven’t seen any good film of padded 11 on 11. Long range twitter vision.

The way I remember it: The Bryce love leading up to the draft was mostly based on big brain smart stuff, filtered or trickled down from the media mostly, and just about every other word was processor lol. We won’t need good WRs because he will make them all better. We can put it all on his plate right away.... all kind of stuff was being said. I have more but have said it a million times. Short version is Against the trade, 100%. But when it was done, looked at QBs. Thought Stroud had the skills and size but was not privy to any S2 or how smart he was so I sort of looked around some more when that came up. Concluded ‘anybody but Bryce’ after even after the Stroud knocks. With Bryce, watching film on him, I could not envision him translating to the speed of NFL defenses. Maybe he will.

I don’t have time to list the analogies that favor bigger and faster and farther, but it’s like: at 30 yards that 70 yard guy is flicking his wrist, which they can do falling backwards, and the guy that can’t do that needs to step into it like he means it. That is advantage to the 70 yard guy, all day.

Looks slow to me.

I view it as collateral damage from the Young pick. Propping him up was job 1. They’re trying to build an offense that 1 of 11 can run, while at the same time hoping it could become a sports car with the right spark plug. If he turns into that, they are happy. If not he isn’t taking the car with him. Swap in a better driver. As far as RB.. it’s the traditional thinking and is justified over and over, it is just solid thinking. You help the QB with the run game, better chance for him to succeed. Then you look at the QB and his game is all inside a radius where a RB talented at receiving could be really helpful. It added value to their eyes. The 3 years down the road short term value thing... if you are secure in your job you don’t worry about it you will figure it out, and if you are insecure in your job you ignore it. They know they are getting 2025, they are shooting for that while doing CYA on helping this QB look like he is something. Or be something. Tightrope.

I'm not sure ‘we’ knew to take Stroud. They Bryce people were insufferable before the draft. S2 baby. Big brain. SEC success guarantees NFL success, on and on....

Hopalong Corbett though...

Yeah that’s a thing about him, he was extremely gifted athletically and could pick his position pretty much. I think he picked the right one.

Yeah. I live in Murrells Inlet - on the water. This looks like a real mess.

That is pretty much how you have to look at it I think. Committing to QB purgatory with a 20-25th ranked QB is not a happy place. He does it right this year or it is.... “Next” AFAIC I’d rather go with the unknown.

You got to figure the offense, 1st time HC and OC, won’t really be a well oiled machine the first few weeks so... DeShaun Foster was pretty good for the Panthers as a 2nd round guy that lost his entire first season. That’s as positive as I’ve got.

He could be a stopgap. I don’t know either. It’s kind of like S for a few years or DT whoa we didn’t replace Jenkins for years. Until Gettleman’s first draft (Dave and me, that was the honeymoon). Should also say, they seriously needed guards.

meant to quote this: You can say stupid yet haven’t seen the results. Okay. I do that too. But it looks like to me that Bryce is being treated as super fragile, mentally. He is getting all help. From excluding competition to hiring a coach to fix him, to giving him a plethora of weapons... it is quite a list. So they are doing all sort of over the top stuff to support him, but wouldn’t do center? There has to be a reason.

I still think they did not want a learning rookie snapping to priority number one. And calling protections. And they didn’t want the QB doing it. Because otherwise why not make the move? and the sentiment is bolstered by Corbett already knowing the speed of play and is generally acclimated... he would need to learn less. ?

6 years of down on top of an up and down past. Feels like there is no up and to drive that home they had the 2023 draft.

I wanted that too and had heard he wasn’t doing well, but I googled and hit this right away https://athlonsports.com/nfl/inside-the-saints/spencer-rattler-turns-heads-in-saints-quarterback-competition Olave gives some pretty high praise. Should have been us. Needs to be us; always at the ready to pluck.