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I am not married to Canales but he severely handicapped by this situation. Anyone would be. Throw him out with the bath water and whatever. I want a new QB. I would cut him today. Anyone is better than him. Anyone. I have been looking at this poo for too long and am not having a good day with it very frustrated.

Damn I was talking about the lack of continuity in the wrong thread.

so you disagree that continuity has been a source of our dysfunction. Okey. The point is not moot.

No one is talking about a really bad situation that totally sets us up to fail, and that is no continuity. 7 years now almost since Rivera was sent packing and we have had NONE. At some point you have to be unshakeable. if you cut and run without giving Canales his QB and his staff, you repeat the dysfunction. I think that needs to be considered and I don’t see that happening with people here.

Whatever cope I have is coping with why the hell he is still playing. He sucks. I am fed up with being civil and explaining why to people. Without calling them blind. He isn’t an NFL player and that is what I have been coping with goi g on three lousy miserable years. The sooner he is gone the better off we will all be.

I think that is totally valid. When I look at it, it looks like we have basically two coordinators independent of each other. And he does not control the defense which seems to be decreed from above. ST ahead a horrible day but overall have not really been a problem. Muffed punts yeah but not unit wide collapse like yesterday. I am goi g to put that in a burn the tape category for them Leaving offense. And the offense is being brought down by the QB. Like it usually has been the previous seasons. I totally get that despite an agreement Tepper could break the agreement finding cause but that is being set up big time to fail.

When I think back to Bryce Young’s debut the biggest reaction, of many incredulous reactions, was to his lack of urgency. I remember being totally, well, shocked, I guess is the word. It was crystal clear I had no explanation or rationalization for it. He was still doing the crappy parallel to the LOS slow dropback. I think he has infected the whole team now. edit: at least the offense. I meant to say, I have become numb to it after years of it, I think, because it doesn’t look like that now it looks like what I am used to seeing on Sundays. I guarantee you, get him out of here and we get better.

You best do that before that bridge is set afire. edit: and the Bucs… they will only lay down if the seeding is already set.

He might get fired. But I don’t think he is so stupid as to not leave himself a life jacket if he has to abandon the SS Minnow. And that is what he did. Maybe he is that stupid It may not be a scenario where reason exists, and futile to apply reason to any analysis. But the reasoned analysis would tell you that not having that life preserver was because he was told he wouldn’t lose his job if Bryce failed.

I reminded me of the tactic of burning the bridge behind you so you can’t retreat. Sink or swim.

Snipped the bulk off just to focus on the finish. The first thing about show him how much it means to us, is the only thing that could possibly work but I don’t have enough faith in him having that kind of empathy. We know the stories about him his brass balls and tearing down his ex boss’ house. The shaming, I think would push him to leave.

What league would those teams play in? Because it isn’t the NFL.

I haven’t listened to it but if Vrabel didn’t get a different QB for his Panthers squad I can’t agree. But here is the thing with that: if you told Vrabel he was tied to Bryce for two years, he would not accept the job, IMO. He doesn’t have to. Canales was only getting a job as HC if he accepted that condition

Not a lot of room to make it worse though, from where we are. We could go 0-17. What do you think we will do this year? 3 wins? 4? I think I predicted 6 I know that I did last year. Trying to give the benefit of the doubt there but that is wasted on this QB.

I don’t know that I would come to that interpretation of those doings. I might agree that they are two different kinds of quarterbacks but I would separate them into the categories of NFL capable and non capable. Reich knew that young was a disaster when he got a close up look at his bag of QB tricks. Word is he wanted to sit him so he could maybe get some remedial coaching to bring him up to snuff for competing against the big boys. He knew the ship would go straight to the bottom with Captain Bryce. Two different kinds of QBs that have success in the NFL are the backyard athletes and the traditional pocket passing surgeons. I think either coach could deal with either style as long as the body and the tools were suited to the job. Maybe not, I can’t think of examples of both kinds for either coach. Vince fuging Lombardi would fail with Bryce and June Jones would also fail with him. My opinion. Edit: I probably meant to say Jim Mora Jr, was looking for the Mike Vick coach.

I think Canales is protecting him too with some of these play calls. Like he gets fired if Bryce does or something.

I missed that. I tried to view it but for some reason my ancient iPad was only showing me some guy with hair. Did he buy Hair Club for Men recently? edit: okay found it and played it lol. Btw he looks like his back hurts the way he is walking, might be all that weight he has put on.

I caution against overestimating Tepper.

My other reaction is ‘but but he is a defensive minded guy’. Which I prefer anyway. I was not in favor of a single aspect of this migration to an offense focused organization. Or barely a single aspect. Dan Campbell seems an exception, he is pretty hard nosed.

Yeah it permeates everything, everyone’s consciousness. Defense too. Maybe ST are somewhat immune but the players on those units participate in the other phases. It is a motivation killer to know that you have probably lost before you ever step in the ring.

I wouldn’t be against that my worry would be that he has been doing this a long time and there may be some burnout.

Involving narcissistic Hollywood actors in any real world endeavor is a prescription for dysfunction. They lend their names to things, they don’t really do anything else but talk and pose.

That particular observation is fair, acceptable, I can agree with that. Let’s be fair to both the goose and the gander. I didn’t see the game but I have seen Andy and I have seen (too much of) Bryce. The eye test tells me they are not close to the same in non garbage time and Andy is the far superior passer even in his NFL old age. Night and day. He whips narrow ass all day and twice on Sunday.

I turned those guys off for good early last year after feeling really irritated with them pretty much since they have been riding Bryce’ jock and being overly shitty to texters and callers who disagreed with them. Have nothing good to say about them especially Mac.

I fail to see where we would have power to do anything but maybe get the team moved away. It isn’t a coach trying get fired or player benched or drafted it is the owner selling the team. The owner who probably has more money than all the people that would fill his stadium. Or half fill in this case. Combined.