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Gotta have some gallows humor if nothing else. and honestly at this point, I would cheer getting Young off the field whatever it takes, short of his death or something really bad.

If I were a ticket owner I would go just to boo Tepper. $1.80? You made my expensive tickets worth $1.80? fug you.

I am not being serious. Just spitballing some Tepper love. I actually wouldn’t laugh. Maybe a little.

I think we need to go baseball and platoon at QB. Bryce comes in for the handoffs and 5 yard bombs and Dalton comes in to throw the NFL passes.

It was so clear from the start.

Harbaugh is not allergic to Fox ball and 13-3. Vegas, you know, they can be beat but that might be some kind of sucker bet and personally I can't afford to be wrong. Out.

I'd laugh like hell if he went Tepper on Bryce. "Canales, I need you to clean out his locker and put that poo next to his car. Now!"

Drinks will be flying no doubt. Maybe he'll buy another team you know, and sell this one.

Absolutely it depends on mr brassballs. I think the only way it happens is if the stadium turns on them, and loudly. Which could happen but there will be so few Panthers fans and half or more will be for the other team so they wouldn't be booing him. Maybe enough cheers from other teams' fans could embarrass him enough. I don't he gets embarrassed though.

Good thinking but no it was not. I went and watched from 2 minutes left in the 1st half. I didn't have the heart to search further.

I'd say 8 games is more than fair to him. Right now, it is 8 too many but that is me being pissed off. That is likely four games with the new RB and the rookie TE gets a few more games to adjust, the OL should be on the same page..... if he isn't much better I see no point in continuing the shitshow, other than to allow him to help us to the top pick.

We are like the Saints fans before they started winning. Harmless. No threat. You can be nice to us and we will be nice back.

Canales has to know that allowing someone to show Bryce up is a one way ticket to oops. You have to wait for a sprain or something that would legit keep him off the field. After seeing the difference in watchability game three last season, I have no doubt we would see the same thing if they allowed Dalton to play his game.

Yeah that is the rational conclusion. Like it or not.

I am sure it is like this in other fields, but what I did for my living was normally done with 3 to 7 or 8 person teams. I had friends in the business that I would not work with because I had higher standards and ability, and knew that I would eventually personalize it and lose them as friends because of my frustration. Because it happened a couple of times. So yeah there is no doubt, in a team environment, the respect thing is built around what you do to help make things smooth for everybody. Which is performance based primarily; social relationships are secondary.

2 whole pies. And a beer. We are probably right in thinking that replacing him and letting Dalton operate would herald the end of Bryce. Let's do it. Johnstonny, I am not Jesus by a stretch. But I honestly had no animosity towards Bryce in 2023 when people were throwing around the Hater tag if you did not believe. It was the people on his side here and their abuse that was pissing me off a lot. But now it really is turning into I just do not like seeing him at all and want him out of my sight, like forever, if he does not do a 180 by October. And right now today, I feel like, if I never saw him again, good. Knowing (should have said: I know) that is emotional and rationally I should give him an 18th chance, but I just don't want to any more.

Yeah I had the pro day arm/mechanics issue, but everything else factored too. My biggest thing was his ball velocity. Coming from a subpar arm exacerbated by inefficient passing mechanics which would cost split seconds on both ends of the play*. The time to load up was extra, and the velocity being less than ideal, robbing fractions on the other end. It adds up and the defenders in today's NFL are so much faster than in college. Maybe take a look at his pro day and see if you see it. For fun. *We saw in 7 on 7s this year than with proper mechanics he can deliver a better ball, but those mechanics went out the window when the bullets started flying, which is entirely predictable if you have ever followed an athlete that had to re-learn their process. I used Tiger Woods for my model or example because that got a lot of publicity. Changed his swing and went through hell because of it for a long time. I don't think he ever got back to his top form. The instinct to revert to the way you had success, when the pressure gets to working on you, is a hell of a thing to overcome.

I was 100% there. A lot of the people I agreed with on Young, disagree strongly with that Darnold eval. Let's see how he does this year, but there was no doubt for me that we would have been far better off not doing all that 2023 crap.

Let me ask, because I know you are a college 'nut' and scout the QBs in the process. Did you look close at the Pro Day tape? Took me 5 minutes to see it. And I don't watch college ball hardly at all. And am no way claiming to be any kind of authority, it just was easy to see because it was there. Couldn't not see it when I started looking closely. It was sort of like the amateur astronomers find uranus lol.

I was screaming NO!!! PLEASE DON'T DO THIS!!!! Just begging the universe to not let it be true. I had no doubt. Maybe 1% doubt. Worst day ever as a Panthers fan probably. At least when we lost the SBs we got there. Just about every failure was at the end of some kind of success. Or only involved one season. The 2023 draft ushered in an era of darkness that would swallow the earth lol. This is compelling me to hurt my eyes watching Wilson to see if you are in the ballpark. Maybe not... I honestly cannot imagine anybody being worse that what we saw on Sunday. If he was twice as good, he would still be looking up at real NFL QBs.

Surely, it was week one and I assign little value to it as a predictor of the season, whatever the outcome. So yeah I don't think you crown or banish off week one. Team wise. I do think you can tell pretty easily about individual players though. And our QB may be a notch or two better than he showed, but also his issues are his issues and were clear the same as they were last season. He is just so limited and the offense is limited by that too.

Yeah, I think that is your rational mind speaking. You are probably well adjusted and don't bulldoze ex boss' homes and stuff like that. Would Tepper have accepted that? I doubt it. I think when they took Bryce, Frank just felt betrayed and fuged over and knew how it was going to play out with this QB. I get it. If he wanted to run a college offense, he would have looked for a college job.

I don't think we saw what the offense was supposed to be because the QB can't fuging play well enough to execute it. We have heard very clearly, if we were listening, about tailoring the offense to what the QB likes to do. What he is able to do. Which, very apparently, is not much. That cutting the field in half for him... no. That's raising the white flag. Good lord I won't even watch replays of that crap.

Some things are pretty constant in the face of cyclic changes. Having a strong balanced offense is still key. I'd prefer to do it with a great front. NFL average backs can produce what you need in that scenario. In a way it is similar to having a great arm throwing the ball vs a more small ball type passer, you aren't going to get the same home run threat with the average guy.

I was not a fan of bringing him in, but he has fought the good fight and pulled himself up. The reason for the reply is to note that Wilks was very complimentary of how Baker handled the 2022 season and I wasn't expecting to hear that so I retained memory of it. It has played out in a good way. For him.