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He craps on himself through stuff like 54 yards passing. We just complain about it. Luke will never crap on a current Panther. He just wouldn’t. And that also likely includes ex Panthers. I’ll say it again: if we’d drafted him where he realistically deserved to be drafted he would be an underdog and I would be rooting for him. Except he would be gone already.

He made the playoffs! I heard, at least twice and from different sources, about our late season playoff push and the actual words “playoff run”. And these were media analysts. I don’t know how these narratives take hold but they do. (It is like big time throws and deep balls lol).

More like if you eat those magic beans you will believe he has those tools.

I would look at them sideways if they took a TE in the second over filling the hole they made by cutting A’Shawn. And secondarily (if DL wasn’t really there), placing TE over ILB in that round.

Well, yeah. It is hard to know what is the whole truth is there. Like what I said initially, coach speak. The players are listening. And that word ‘apparent’, it makes it seem apparent. Still may not be what it seems.

I understand that. I have said that multiple places. Commenting on all the ‘big man’s game’ and wanting to introduce competition to every room comments that are at odds with his Beyce comments

It is pretty confounding that we are seeing this apparent double standard. One for everyone else, a different set of standards for Bryce. From size to performance they hold him to lower standards than they hold the other guys to. I say apparent because we don’t know for sure and coaches and by extension GMs do the coach speak shuffle . because know the players are listening.

I watched the EWhite one last night there are a few nuggets in there.

No saying he mostly sucks is saying that he doesn’t suck the minority of the time. Like if he took 17 tests and had a couple of really good showings and a handful of pretty good scores sprinkled in among the typical sub par results. Like a golfer who went out and shot an 89. There will be some real nice shots sprinkled in there but at the end of the day it is still 89.

That is a great effort to document it. I had forgotten about the 5th year part up front. It was a great listen so if people have time you should maybe do that.

I am going to suggest maybe we make a team produced video thread and sticky it. They are not doing irrelevant fluff right now, other than introducing g the draft picks. These podcasts with Luke and JJ have become good. The ones the team did with the scouts, good stuff for a fan. In particular here we have one of the most cerebral LBs ever to play giving opinion after opinion on the guys we drafted, and all kinds of stuff. And I have preached continuity the last couple of years regarding Dan and Canales, just for its own sake. Luke speaks on that here. I think we could value it a little more than we do. Small talk which you also might enjoy, was skipped; I linked to the beginning of the post draft talk.

If you think about.. if you really draft BPA you going to have situations where they come in behind someone. They don’t All need to start day one. You are probably better off letting it happen at their pace, after all the saying a loss for each rookie you start. The biggest thing is take a good player. Easier said than done, I get it, and an oversimplification… probably. But it is the name of the game.

I bet he knew before that. I did and I am a total amateur. Looking at his size, then his pro day…. All the way out.

Oh man, I just realized how beautiful it would be to let the Falcons pay for our QB while we beat them.

I can’t imagine him moving from 22-25 range to top ten. I would call that miraculously better.

Pewter Report was the big Bucs spot I use to look at. I think it is still running.

Cool. I used to like to look at their board every so often. Still look at Saints Report a couple of times a year.

I think you are right about that.

That deal with the ‘must watch film’ clause was all I needed to see. He is an athletic little fuger though, with a cannon.

Saw him mocked to us a couple of times but I didn’t take it seriously.

I don’t think people are saying that picking up the option is a call for the pitchforks. We would have had to do things differently a couple of years back to make declining the option a valid move. We didn’t and here we are. People largely accept that. The pattern it adheres to, reinforces the nausea we feel when the idea of an extension, and at top of the market no less, comes up. One that he hasn’t shown he deserves. Same as he did not deserve to be drafted 1.1. Look at Pavia and what really is the difference? Bryce is a nice guy and Pavia is an asshole lol. They are both no margin for error non day one talents. One went undrafted. Probably should have been drafted day three anyway. The other was way over drafted.

Of course I don’t know either but the value was not even close. I am not sure Dan would risk insulting another GM with a 50 cents on the dollar offer. Although, the way that guy did business on the Crosby deal, I don’t know if I would much want to deal with him. I thought about looking at the draft order and trying to figure out who it may have been, if not us. Turns out I don’t care that much

Your opinion is noted. As long as we have to endure sub par play that projects to a dim future at the position, people have every right to express their dissatisfaction. Maybe we could resurrect that thread where no one was allowed to say anything negative about Bryce for you, if you are that bothered by it.

Who is over excited? A lot of people think we need better than what he has given us. We have watched him for two years, his alleged improvement notwithstanding, and he has been very unremarkable. But we have little choice but to hope he gets it - he will get his year three opportunity and we’ll see

Under Reich with Geno throwing to him. Oh yeah, I’ll be betting on that.