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Brooks … was that but may no longer be that. After 2 ACLs he is a lottery ticket. We don’t know. If we ever did. If we want to be secure in what we can put at RB, we are gonna have to address it as if he isn’t there. Let’s say we do address it successfully and he shines and then we are overcrowded. Trade deadline, someone can move out.

The context is, we still need multiple starters and we have more issues than decent picks.

I was looking for lingering at 35, or 25. Because if 35 that isn’t a big consideration for a 25 year old football player. Or however old Icky is. It’s okay if you don’t know, I am not demanding you give me a definite answer… you just provided the info that someone else maybe could have added some better context to

I would think RB is high on their list. I think we need a bowling ball that can catch. Like Tolbert. Young throws so many balls near the LOS you could get a lot out of the right RB.

If he is so desirable, trade out of the pick and set ourselves up to get the overall team straight. Get your explosive from later speedy WR. Or not. We have done enough loading up with high pick receiving options for a guy that may not throw 20 balls a game. If you want to get Anything out of that QB you have to protect him. Having all the receivers in the world is wasted without that. ps besides, if you want more receiving with this guy we have at QB it is better to look at getting it from the RB position.

What is the context of long term? NFL career or lifetime? That would matter.

It would be par for the course I guess. But splurging on a splashy TE, when we have had decent production by committee and have many other needs, is not a brilliant plan. If this is about replacing Tremble, there are guys in FA.

So you are saying we should have torn down and done a full rebuild. Were you saying that at the time or making that judgement in hindsight? The way it all happened was not simple. You are suggesting a simple plan, but that isn’t how it played out. If you are doing that you ride Rhule down to the bottom, which wasn’t done either. Brother I will repeat, it a convoluted mess. The Burns thing alone took a year and a half to play out.

I have been desirous of a stud TE in the past but that is too much of a luxury right now. IMO. For one big thing I don’t believe we have a QB that will maximize the investment. If people think we could recreate Cam and Greg, I would say they are dreaming. For another we have holes a lot bigger than a perceived hole at TE.

That might be a good argument against spending the 19th pick on a TE. Committee is working pretty well.

There is the answer as to the 5th year. I knew there had to be something.

Yeah that would be cool.

Yeah. I haven’t seen much if any move up in the first talk. Seen some trade back to get some ammo to move higher in the second, I have said that.

He flashes, like a caution light. What did he do the very next game? For example. It was SF MNF. Not too good. IIRC Canales tried to parlay that Atlanta game into okay Bryce can beat you with his arm. How did that work out? It flopped. That is what we have been sitting here saying. He has played well but then it disappears back to same old Bryce. His floor is the problem more than his ceiling. He must raise his floor. That is the assignment and honestly it was the assignment last year too. You ready to pay him?

I said before, if his level is Rams WC game and can make that be the norm, I would be okay with him. It was not Great and I don’t like not having certain skills at the position but it was good enough to meet an acceptable competitive standard. For me. To get off his ass.

I can see that too. I am keeping in mind that we may have two shots, another next year. A guy taken this year could become ROT maybe as soon as next season. So maybe there is a second round guy if they don’t like the options at 19. ps I would understand if they hesitate to jump in with both feet for LOT until they have a definitive take on if Icky can come back.

Need will drive up the price. Supply and demand. I know Darnold had a 14-3 year or something before he got 3/100. And Willis obviously hasn’t. I still think it will take more than 12-15. We’ll probably find out within a couple of weeks.

They strung that along for years though. And still, after Brees left, have gone 9-8 twice, 7-10, and they won 5 and whatever the did last year. They look to be straight at QB again, I think Moore is a good hire…. I could deal with that in a few years if we could win a few years.

Yeah the more I learned the less interested I became. And wasn’t interested much in the first place.

Would you want to pay 30? I think it will be a lot closer to that than 12-15 when it all shakes out. I’m not thinking I want to, with Bryce still here.

This might not even be related to his play. “Not expected back” gives us nothing, it could be he doesn’t want to come back. It could be we want to move on. If he is seen as a street level talent the only thing he offers above a random guy is familiarity. At this point I would say he is probably out of upside. So if we can find equal with some upside, that is what we need to do. Hard to say with such little inside info.

They think it’s hitting a baseball I guess. 3 successful ABs out of 10 gets you paid. I have a post from a day or two ago just off the cuff, I didn’t document… but going through the season and putting his quality performances in one pile and the rest in another. I don’t know what kind of success you can have with that. People who think that because he played well against the Rams in the playoffs means that he will do that in every game going forward are willfully ignoring the flip side. But his people have always been fond of cherries. It doesn’t mean he won’t but it in no way proves he will.

Yeah we just can’t accept that level of play going forward, from a guy in his 4th year.

I think he has closed the gap a little bit between him and a backup coming in and badly showing him up. But not so much that someone could not come in and make the offense look like Andy did in Seattle week 3 2023. That poo was night and day to Bryce was putting out. So, they are in a sense playing with fire by getting rid of Dalton and actually trying to bring in someone to push him.

Getting better, might be fairly charitable. We finished 1-3 with the pressure on. That is for sure not trending up. I don’t see a clear run of performances that prove he has taken it to another level. Not yet. I would say he played really well in the WC game. And folded on that last series where we still had a chance. I think he threw one good ball. That last series is the kind of thing a player is supposed to learn from and not repeat. We have to see him do it before we can credit him for doing it. I would also say he has not done enough of playing at his ceiling and what we should expect as the game in game out norm is still not established. We gonna get MNF in SF or we gonna get the WC game? Seattle or Atlanta yardage record? Besides that he has three years of horrendous play to start the season hanging over him. Are we going to get that again or will he be over that? We can’t know that. Mind you, that isn‘t two of three it is three of three he has yet to play well to start the year as a pro. Ofer. So, many questions remain. As far as weapons and help… said it before. Fix the OL so we can protect him. It is time for a 1.1 pick in his 4th season, third year in the same offense, to elevate the players we have given him. You can’t keep up the level of investment dedicated to propping him up, you have to prop up the defense too and get some balance.