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No doubt. If it was WFNZ Charlotte you definitely would have been. Mocked for it too in you did it in the morning.

Not the fans. We didn’t do it. We never do poo.

He is the elephant in every room right now. Canales and Tepper run way behind although Tepper should get more heat.

I mean, Lawrence Phillips, Rae Carruth… Yeah I hear you. I was convinced he was a bust before they took him. So three years was coming down in a block when they did that, in my mind. I didn’t think I’d make it but here we are, with the threat of a 4th year hanging in the air. Demoralizing for sure.

3 years to figure it out and the answer has been the same every time. Think they will try a different solution? Bryce and Andy lol. I hope so but it is hard to have any faith in them to do that. The Cam stuff, I don’t think anyone is talking about that thinking he is a solution for 2026. Just wishing we had some of his ability at the position now.

My amateur opinion … It’s that footwork and his overall mechanics that stop him. Short sucks too but his accuracy and timing and velocity, all compromised by his technique. Not enough natural arm strength there to overcome it. I am not sure what another year would do if he isn’t fixing that stuff. Or two years. If he could have things straight and squared away he could maybe get enough out of his abilities to play consistently week to week. He will still be limited by things like field vision and what someone pointed out this week that I had never noticed or considered - trajectory on really short near field throws like goal to go situations. They said the arc he needs to clear the d line guys is such a high angle that it is hard to get the ball back down soon enough. Which boy, that is a can of touch pass worms there if you think about it. Like shooting a basket where defenders can goal tend. You have to throw it so soft that defenders can close on it. Receivers would have to use their bodies to shield. Then you are left with rolling out to see the field and get a lane, which shuts down half the the field and is easier to defend. It’s really tough. You go looking for negatives, or impediments, they are there to find.

I only wonder about the West Coast team playing on tne East Coast at 1pm factor and historically that has been worth a lot to the home teams. And maybe playing down to the competition that happens sometimes. And the crazy up down up down pattern we have been in this season. I don’t bet on these things though.

I think the racist stuff is barking up the wrong tree with Tepper. He is all woke and stuff. Not that liberal white people can’t be racists they are in their way pretty racist. Or can be, I for sure agree about the yes man aspect and particularly apply that to Wilks. I didn’t understand the Rhule hiring at all. Did not want. But down the line with Wilks, zi personally wanted him, and personally did not see the racism being a factor in the Reich hiring as much as the fixation with offensive minded play callers and copying that trendy model. I am having a hard time calling to mind any Black coaches who were out there with the big offensive rep. At one time Byron Leftwich was a hot name who I liked. Don’t remember what happened there but he faded. Bienemy but I never believed in him much, personally. I think Tepper basically excluded defensive guys and went for the top rated play caller OC types. And couldn’t get Ben Johnson and ended up settling with Reich. Who ended up NOT being a yes man at all.

Okay. Should have let that happen instead of Bridgewater. I bet Rhule didn’t want to deal with it.

It has been hard. We have a patchwork OL and a crappy QB to deal with. Wishy washy play calling. Finding a bright side or silver lining is a challenge. I try but it is weak sometimes.

We still should have kept Darnold. As far as his four teams, every place he was would have been better off keeping him. Even SF. Definitely Minnesota. Where he only got to start because their rookie got hurt. And definitely us.

Yeah playoffs would the ultimate instant gratification scenario, and doesn’t really jump out as best for our overall big picture. But in a way it could be. We know what Bryce is I think. But with him back and us playing a 1st place schedule, we might be able to position ourselves in good place to draft a QB high in 2027. Have to suffer through more misery in 2026 though.

My preference was Wilks and Darnold and whoever we could pick at 9 and 40 or wherever we would have picked. Keeping DJ Moore. Talk about different. I mean the hang there is we would have kept Fitterer. And who was Wilks pulling in for his staff. But in the trade was made scenario and the coach was Reich, absolutely CJ was the right pick. He has the NFL throwing toolkit.

And I forgot the upcoming Rhule factor, 2020. He did not want to deal with Cam I don’t think.

Everything I heard at the time or remember was yeah Frank knew he wasn’t ready and Tepper insisted. Much friction resulted and of course we know who won that one That was a phantom injury week 3 2023 that got Dalton on the field, pretty sure, and that’s what it was about - Frank trying to field an NFL offense. People were and still are very unfair to him. He may not have been the brightest offensive innovator but he spent his life playing QB in the NFL and coaching them. Even though his head coaching record or chops may not have been A-1, he didn’t just go all idiot in 2023 all of a sudden.

I think so. The rub is, you cannot remake yourself down to that molecular type level of all your techniques and ways you do things, at the top level of your profession, on the fly. If at all. I made at least a dozen posts over the years explaining my thoughts on that issue. He would have had to have that stuff in order from day one. I think it would been a different story, completely. Or could have been. You can’t fix height or arm strength or foot speed or size, to any significant degree though and he should have never been drafted so high. Even with better technique. That was a horrible call on our part.

At top pay scale, me too. I thought there was a way he could have made it work with his diminished physical tools but he would have needed to accept that he should probably be in a lower tier, contract wise. His ego. Tepper’s ego, the agent in the middle… didn’t work.

Yeah it is a mixed, and mixed up, bag. I think removing the Bryce variable is the first step. If that happens and Canales is still doing counter intuitive things, take the next step. And that is why we don’t need a huge investment in QB in the draft - that may not be the best move. We need to be sure on Canales before doing that. We should get a vet or three in here.

That sounds about right. It is certainly in the range of conceivable outcomes.

That is how I remember it too. It was similar to how people portray Bryce in 2026 without his option picked up. I mean people didn’t think it was gonna be peaches and cream with Cam on an expiring contract, same as they are predicting for Bryce. IIRC the impression I got was Cam was not gonna be happy and if Cam ain’t happy nobody’s happy, to borrow a cliché from mama. It isn’t like Bryce because Bryce is the same Bryce, but Cam was not the same Cam. You cannot overlook that but I felt like his attitude was he expected the team to do business as usual. Not to acknowledge the fact that he was physically different and have that reflected in a new valuation. Which I don’t know how that was supposed to work out..

Deserve’s got nothin’ to do with it Do people deserve being born rich? Poor? It just happens. Like our QBs happen to us. We have nothing to do with that. Have they ever asked us before signing a single one? And that towel over his head was pretty strange if I am honest. Was he going for an endorsement? I wouldn’t like Caleb Williams’ fingernails I can tell you that. But if he QBs them to a division title in his second year, Bears fans will tolerate that gladly. It is all overblown.

Blissfully ignorant. If we were that stupid this would be a happier place. Baby.

Yeah we all want to have the best. You are honest about it. Cam had his faults but man did he have the tools covered. I would happily settle for a guy in the Jake mold for a few seasons. He had NFL level tools. Not top level but we weren’t super constrained by his limitations and he made his teammates better and they also made him better. We had a fighting chance with him. Matching his will to win would be harder than matching his tools. But we don’t have to have the best for things to potentially be a lot better. IMO anyway.

How does anything improve bringing Bryce back? You think he can get better? He has had three years and is pretty much below sea level with the annual Falcon bump. What is there for him to improve, that he has shown he can improve? Something he can control. What I usually hear is improve the people around him, and if that is the case I say we could do that with a better QB.

Well we really value your input Shocker. we couldn’t know how horrible we were if you weren’t here to tell us.