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When I look at Dan I see a guy that is overworked to the point it shows. I see people say he is like a dumb jock basically. I don’t think he’s stupid. He is very transparent, kind of guileless. I don’t mind him being a straight shooter. I think it buys credibility which is helpful when negotiating with other GMs. The thing he did with AT and Minnesota last year I believe probably won him some points with prospective FA vets. Which does not hurt a team people may have doubts about joining.

They say, with a young woman, look at the mother to see what you’ll have in 20 years. I think with good reason. Styles’ dad was an NFL LB. I listened to him after meeting with Morgan. I am sold.

That’s what people say. I know I’d see it differently. Bijan is pretty damned good but I don’t have nightmares. You are talking, likely, (or high potential of) a Ray Lewis or Luke level of impact on the game with Sonny. I hope they do take that RB if they have the two guys both there.

NO is sitting at 8. Cue scary music.

Man oh man. That 8-9 record without a playoff berth puts at 13 if I recall, ahead of both Atlanta and TB with their 8-9 records, due to our weaker SOS. We might have been in range to deal for that guy. I hope he doesn’t last to 8. And I hope some AFC team picks him.

Cool. I am not wanting to debate or argue it. It is mostly my preferences. But a couple of things: I just don’t think he sees the middle of the field well. But besides that I would rather spend a 1st round pick at different offensive positions if we went offense, otherwise we have neglected defense something fierce the last few years. Last 1st rounder was Horn. That’s like 5 years ago now. Investments… gee the last 4 drafts we have used a 2, a 2, a low 1st and a top ten pick on WR. Bryce has been here three years, three of those picks were specifically for him. And assets, I don’t think you are counting the haul we gave for the QB position. That counts and it was huge. Add that up and add the Burns cap space we freed up when we traded him. We bought two guards and used the savings on them. Not on the defense. I mean, that is a lot of investment in the offense when you put all that in a sack and weigh it. peace. Appreciate your post.

Well you are officially renting him in those circumstances. So I don’t care who he is, I wouldn’t want to give up a 3rd. I for sure was thinking much cheaper. Got to pay him 15 mil. And then he can be a FA. I guess you could tag him. That would be costly. The idea of a one year rental doesn’t bother me though, it could buy time and still allow us to draft an edge this year, then in ‘27 we’d have Scourton and Princely going into their third season and the newer draftee his second. They might be ready to step up. I just would want him cheap.

I have already seen him mocked to 7.

I am not endorsing or rejecting.. just commenting. NYG GM Schoen and Morgan are like, vacation buds. Did the Burns trade already. If we had interest it should be do-able. One year rental? Could be cheap. But it would need to be. Maybe a player could go back to them. More than that? Like trade for and extend him? I don’t know enough about him to really say about that. What LG just said sheds some light. In a general sense, we have done well with our late rounders but the reason for that may apply less going forward. Tillis referenced this as well in his combine interview the other day. When you have holes everywhere it is easy to fill them with a draft pick, but once you have gotten things to a certain level that changes. At that point maybe a late round pick doesn’t upgrade your team like it did n previous seasons. Hence the low picks become less impactful for us, there is less utility. Which could play into them being more willing to use them in a trade.

I don’t have those concerns here. But first, I never understood a lot about why the TO and the challenges were so hard. Wouldn’t you have a guy looking at the challenge option on a video, wired into the coach’s earpiece? All he has to do is say, hold up we can challenge that and win. Same for clock management. Have an assistent dedicated to to keeping the HC straight in that. But what do I know. In the real world it is happening this way. To your concerns, I would say I don’t feel too threatened that Idzik gets stolen for a head coach job any time soon. He would need to cook for two to three years straight before he would get that kind of credibility. If for some reason he did get hired away, Bevell is here and is probably better at it than Idzik. I favor defensive guys because they generally have tougher teams, less finesse more ass kicking mentality. In my perception anyway.

Okay this is good. We have to do something. Next, let’s get younger at the stater position. Maybe I should have said less young?

That trade up was such a massive blunder. It was a 5 year self inflicted maiming.

since I agree with him I will jump in and say we don’t use the TE enough to value one as a 1st. One of these threads just today people are posting pointing out that Bryce can’t see the middle of the field which is where a lot of TE eat. He likes to throw picks there too, I wonder why (can’t see). It just doesn’t help us that much. And personally, just my opinion, Bryce has had enough top level investment dedicated to the pass game. Get a speedy WR later? I am fine with it and think that is all we really need anyway. Another 1st round pick? Hell no if I get to say. Which I don’t but no one else does either As far as a TE, a pass catching RB would be of more use than a TE I think. We visited with one I think maybe Sr Bowl, that was a WR in school u til just this year when they switched him to RB full time. A guy like that could be put to a lot of use on these little 5 yard passes Bryce is so fond of throwing, It is just past time to put some real talent into the defense for once and I want our top picks to focus there, personally. I would say unless we have a situation like last year where the difference in pure value is stark, I am pissed if we pass on a quality defensive player for another pass catcher.

That is kind of why I said guards too. Hell many played tackle but are drafted to be guards or were taken as tackles and failed so ended up at G. And obviously are at times converted to C also. They are kind of the catch all OL position.

I think Fitterer got us into that pickle. I don’t remember exactly but Moton’s cap hit before that last restructure was really out of whack. There wasn’t much to do except make the best of it.

Yet the playbook isn’t limited. Technically I guess.

I just looked at that, you probably did too. Time for the back channel scuttlebutt and see if we can find out how that Achilles was holding up. And whatever else. New coaches and people are saying it signals a scheme fit. I got no clue what they were doing in Tennessee. It also said he was due 8 million this year.

I haven’t looked at the guy and wasn’t even aware of him but that is interesting. Need to figure out why he was in the doghouse. No sense trading one problem for another. Dalton played well against them two years ago, teams always like guys that do that. Trade him over there too. edit: lol I am imagining XL in Las Vegas.

Other urgent needs aside, seeing Dan bear down on finding us LBs worthy of playing for the Panthers, guys that meet the high expectations he must have for that position on this team, I fuging love it. Edit: he doesn’t buy into the devaluation of that position that I have seen. He said, the other day, that is the guy the DBs are looking at in the huddle, the DL is looking at in the huddle, he wants a leader there. He didn’t use the term QB of the defense, but I will. They have made such a difference to our defense over the years, we just need to find that guy that can be one of the league’s best.

Yeah I get it. I just said guards because we had been weak there and teams go through a lot of them. And I was lazy. I could understand thinking with those new guards maybe you’d be okay being a little less than good at C. And I have just always thought, right or wrong, that they did not want a brand new offense and this overwhelmed kid at QB to have to rely on a rookie at C making the calls and all that. My dad was a 4 year college C so I heard a little about it. Mostly funny stories about what he did wrong more than bragging but I appreciate having a good C and would have been happy with - was it Frazier? Whoever they passed up for Brooks. They are not gonna get it all right decisions every time especially being new, and I think they may be wanting to fix that spot now, let’s hope.

Yeah and just to respond to this, there is a huge difference between being less imaginative than the best generational type of offensive minds and being incapable. And even the best don’t run the table every year. I don’t think you get even an OC job if you don't understand stuff like you cite here. Having to do it all on the fly with people in your ear and the clock ticking and trying to be concerned about all these things going on in a football game will test a lot of people and mistakes will be made. If he gets out from under all that maybe the things outside of the play calling will improve.

I don’t like seeing that either. The automatic jumping, whether you need to or not. That was maybe the first thing I noticed with him.

Drafting a G after signing two for 150 mil, yeah I think you can skip a year. And I am about as sold on the game being won up front as anybody.

This is interesting. Tua’s QB coach was just hired. He is probably getting cut. Not that I want him, at all, but it might be something to keep in mind as an outcome. I was a fan of Andy, over Bryce, but that really fizzled last season. I don’t know who Andy would be ‘over’ any more. edit: I know that if I were a QB with any kind of game, competing with Bryce, even in a faux competition, might be a job I would be interested in.

I think pretty much the Panthers writers are there if you want team centric coverage.