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I would love that. We may need to be pretty serious about next year’s 1st round.

I am calling it, this will be different. They need to streamline and tweak the process of running the offense with Idzik and Bevell for one thing. I thought, also, that with such a thin roster they made the decision to emphasize playing the backups to more thoroughly evaluate who to keep. I think they have far more certainty about it now and will have fewer scrubs to seriously audition. We weren’t winning in Canales year one. Didn’t expect to win year two. Using the first game as a tune up game for the starters may have bitten us though, they will be a lot more traditional this year. I bet.

Me too. It is probably coming. I did suspect Coker.

Okereke had a disc issue in 2024 Missed some time. Will be 30. D captain in NY. There are going to be some decent stopgap types out there we have yet to hear about, too. All our needed positions.

I have no idea what 85 in Spanish could mean. Older people, Marge Helgenberger (?) the TV actress was a Panthers fan way back in the day.

Signed to the roster from somebody’s practice squad December 2024. Gone before 2025. He was one of those 6 year college guys (Covid rules). Not sure he was ever active for us. I just looked at wiki for this they posted no pro stats. He was on a lot of teams. I am not thinking we have good comp there.

Lloyd is going to get a lot of interest.

Bears C just unexpectedly retired. 27 years old. More demand created.

And are just able to be more multiple. Harder to defend, you can scheme up those mismatches. I mean, my real want is Mike Tolbert reincarnated. We need a guy that can catch and get few yards after, and can bang hard to get that yard when we have to have it. Maybe Brooks can give us a little more bang.

If Brooks can come back he’s a good receiver too which was why I thought they really went for him. look at him and a guy like this in the backfield with the motion you can get a lot of different options. And if Brooks hits a snag you have at least a guy that can give you some carries

Yeah just saw that. We’re in. Luke vs Fitzgerald.

Yep. Mutually looking out, not adversarial. It would show he wants to stay if he can come back. That is the culture we should hope to have. If it’s an extension that guarantee can be converted to bonus and spread out over two years on the cap. And he still gets his money this year. You know, with this being a 2 year path to best case recovery, you could do a deal with a nice incentive for 2027 snaps and maybe a large roster bonus for 2028. If 2027 went well, and he is trending up, you can rewrite the deal. I am hoping our men making the evaluations will think of this, it is a little outside the box.

Yeah there are a couple of posts about that from last night, a few posts back in this thread. They had like, 1mil in cap space before that. He freed 8mil. They will likely be cutting a few more guys.

We won’t have any real sense of his viability until the weather is cold, at the earliest. So you have to address the near term as if he is done. With maybe a little hedging. Moton’s exit being not too far off allows that because we can apply this year’s stopgap to that position. People are saying if he is diminished he be a guard, but if his athleticism is degraded to the point that he can’t be an OT, can he really just ‘be a guard’? This is a tough one.

It is a dumb argument I’ll give you that. Drafting a guy primarily because he can do what should be the job of your starting QB is not efficient use of your resources. If you draft a guy to develop as a QB you do it because you think you can develop him into a QB. If you want to run him in to take up Bryce’s slack then you have that option. as far as conservatives (?) not willing to gamble a later pick? Well the answer there is look at the roster prior to the 2025 draft. Holes like Swiss cheese. Every guy we took contributed and many of them significantly. You get the floor of the 21 guys who aren’t QB raised to the point you can’t immediately replace one of them with a 4th or 5th round rookie, then feel free to be a little looser with some of these later picks. We still are not there. Maybe next year.

Twist that a little and you get to investing so much in a QB that you are afraid to even call one with, explains it.

Yeah me too. And if I am the Rams I am a little wary.

JR gave TD a chance to come back. I would be in favor of some type of creative way to give him a path to getting a chance here. This is complicated because of where he is in the contract ‘cycle’. We are on the hook for a lot of money this year. If there was a way to free some up by adding a (much) smaller amount to the deal and having it extend an extra year to allow him to try to come back, as was proposed earlier? I am not bullish on his prospects but would be good with exploring that approach.

They can get film of all the games? Every team? Wow! Who knew… Our games with them are big examples of why they are in the CB market so hard. It is the study they do getting ready for the games. Preparing to play against is a little different than just analyzing film in scout mode. Deeper dive. Then you are analyzing post game too. This goes to why players often change teams but stay in the division. The opponents know each other on a higher level. Plus if you lost to us, you used to get fired. Now you have to trade your first round pick. Moving up on the world.

With Schoen and Dan Morgan being tight I’d figure we knew this was coming and since he is released, Dan didn’t bite. But, a quick search says this is at least 80% cap related. They have No cap space and save 8 or 9 million with releasing him. He has been a captain his entire time there. 145 tackles this year. They are picking 5th with a new staff and looking at Styles. Hitting that age 30 season and had a disc issue last year (meaning 2024) that did not require surgery. I haven’t really watched him play but he activated the antennae.

I don’t think the concept is bad thinking. That money this year is a ball buster, for getting nothing out of it. gives him a little future location security and maybe hope that if he can get back we’ll pay him, with a renegotiation. Could give us some relief this year. That is kind of creative.

I wonder how high he might be on their list. Played against him twice this year so they will know if they like him, that way.

I like him, and would be hesitant but that could be our Icky replacement. It would be a gift from above. So it won’t happen… but I would say yes I accept. What really pushes it into ‘go’ for me is the concussions. It could be a situation where we are unloading a problem, vs keeping one.

Too late. You owe me a flat screen lol. He will be a mystery to us and himself for quite some time yet. Hell his 5th year is guaranteed and he won’t be giving any of it back. Nearly 16 million. I think. If he doesn’t return to form he can retire very damned luxuriously on 10-12 million or whatever he gets to keep after taxes and agent cut. We aren’t fuging him, let’s don’t fug ourselves.

Maybe. That’s the feeling I have. It will be all about money this time and with two, at least, besides us who may end up competing for him, I expect us to let him leave.