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If it is my team, Prez needs to speak with me about it. Even if he has rubber stamp approval negotiated in.

Well I would just ask, where did you learn the play by play of the deal? I am not aware that we are certain he instigated. And if he approves something brought to him it is a much different scenario. Right? There is as much certainty that a guess can have, that they, Canales, Morgan, Tepper, discussed contingencies prior to employment. So they had some ground rules, I would think, some 'if this, then that' discussions. Etc. Looks like the timeline for this contingency was moved up because Bryce was sucking so hard. I don't know who instigated, unless someone has something solid. I agree with it in any event.

He's "cold blooded" though. I'm not really making fun of Canales, you have to put things in a way that doesn't criticize publicly.

To take that seriously, an absolute ban on Tepper having input... you gonna have to go some. That is not the way they run teams. You're spending the big money, making a critical decision, he holds veto power at the very least.

He signed the contract. Hold him to it like the team is held to it. I mean, it's guaranteed no matter what. Too much money to just let him skate off to wherever. Until it suits us to send him on his way. edit: which could be if he gets rehabbed a little value wise.

I liked Hooker okay. I would have done something with him before Bryce to be honest. It was more a reflection of how I valued Young than Hooker being great or anything. The interesting part will be Canales' target(s).

The ones he ran into were mostly deeper edge rushers where the T is pushing them back and hopefully around behind him out of the play. He backed right into them dropping so deep. I think.

I'm thinking there was a policy to not show him up, they must have understood how mentally fragile he seems to be. He doesn't do well with adversity it seems. I certainly wanted that but I never had any faith in him to hold me back. I'd have rolled in a ringer and pushed him as hard as I could push him. Several people were calling for it.

Yeh, I think I failed to downplay that specifically but it was sort of implied by saying the scrimmage wasn't as realistic to a game as I had thought going by comments about the one in '23. When I saw the thing it was glorified practice for the QB, not the test I'd envisioned. When he is being hunted for real he doesn't perform.

I don't see either happening. If Darnold does well all year, it could be interesting as far as what happens with him.

There was concern over the under center inexperience I guess I'd call it, and how he was limiting the playbook by not having that dimension. There were just a lot of things to be wary of.

I think it is better to try and challenge him to be the best teammate he can be and learn and grow up. He’ll get good respect if he does that. Ans anyone can see he doesn’t belong on the field this Sunday or next Sunday and so on.. until he fixes some stuff he has been unable to fix to this point. So he needs to rehab his game on somebody’s bench and we are on the hook for pretty big money. seems simple to me.

Right there with you at the time. You got it, people were blinded by hype. We have been experiencing that frustration all along, that people that were holdouts are just now starting to feel. I am supposed to feel sorry for them? Mac on the radio crying about that trade lol. Just now he figures out the reality. I'm not gonna call names or say they are stupid... lol. It is a good thing that they have seen the light over there at Mint St.

I like to use 'parasite'.

That needs to be SOP until they hit and it still needs to churn behind him.

I am pretty sure most knew we lost talent on D and it was now the red headed stepchild getting the hand me downs in favor of 'you know what'. The Brown injury was freaking pretty major. we are simply going to be developing depth there this year. Which sometimes pays off the next season.

The score gets out of hand, the run game gets abandoned. If they can keep the run game in play, we should be able to back them off to open up some shorter routes and the running plays would face a bit less congestion.

I remember being impressed with him as a threat the first time we played him, you have to take him seriously, he can hurt you feet or arm. Bryce has to be a dink and dunk surgeon to thrive but can't back people off with his arm. So he has no margin.

It was a large topic in 2023 preseason. Camp.

Yeah. Pretty much a new dynamic now. New paradigm as they say. I don't know what is coming. It will be more damned fun that that torturous poo we were looking at. Thinking it is about Canales, the rookies, and the evaluation of what is here. I'd support throwing a lot of potential QBs against the wall behind a vet or some kind of retread, if Canales looks like he can carry his weight with the design and playcalling. Which we haven't see much of that at all. That's about to change. Sort of like, going down the list. Okay, that isn't working.. let's move on and focus on what else we can get done. QB I have said often enough to take flyers on later round QBs when the opportunity is there. Overall we need to let the season play out because in 16 weeks it will look different that we think, looking at it from here. That goes for the college season too. So let's let stuff tell us then if we want a QB early or what we want to do.

Which, you really don't get in these preseason games. Or when they won't go all out in a scrimmage. I didn't see the one last year but all the word, I heard. I gave it a lot of weight and then saw the environment they had around that scrimmage and it didn't seem like the huge test I thought it was. You just don't get the real speed until real games. That's kind of what his rookie season was supposed to teach him. I am sideways with the people bitching hard about the preseason strategy, being that I looked at the whole year as training that would be an ongoing thing all year. Was resigned to it. Now as to the preseason format itself, it really is a new arrangement and it makes a difference I believe, you can keep doing things the old way or can you can rethink it. They have their routine where each game is approached as a step by step thing where there are different goals for different weeks. Now you have 3 preseason games not 4 so which game do you leave out? How do you best adapt? It is ripe for a new approach so I don't mind some experimenting with so little on the line, I mean we went into the season with people saying 4-5 wins. So big deal about that preseason, in the big picture. That's a 1st world problem to me.

No magic 8 ball over here but I think if people chill and leave Canales alone to make his rookie mistakes, which no one wants to do even after the benching, we are going to start the gradual climb back up the hill. If the fanbase just wants more blood and goes off on the staff yeah it won't be good, but it is just more of the same.

I think we have. We might bounce along it for a while but you really can't get lower than those first two weeks. I still have optimism that we are doing the right thing moving on from the QB. Let's see what else we have on offense. He couldn't show us.

That's where I was. I mean, how much good did that Buffalo series do? It showed that Canales had worked with Young to rebuild his footwork and throwing routine. That's something that is good to see. But the first game, that lasted almost a quarter. If you look at his form in the second game, it is completely not good. It ranged from looking caught in the middle with maybe a 80/20 blend of his old with a little nod to the new form, to him not even trying to stick to the techniques. That shows you that it isn't happening. He isn't Frank Sinatra and can't do it his way and make it. Never gonna happen. His last hope is sitting out and having his come to Jesus moment and buy in 100% to fixing his drops and footwork. And then do it.

I haven't read all the thread but my answer is, maybe they did. I mean, Vegas is getting hurt.