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Andy was a top 15 guy for years probably. Next to Bryce? Shame on Bryce is about all I have - that Andy is so much of an upgrade, I don’t think in terms of winning I think in terms of at least being in a game. We are on the 1 year anniversary of the last decent deep ball thrown by a Panthers QB. It will look better no matter what happens. And Crosby, rather have Bryce back there? Lol. Fetal position. If something happens to Andy because he hung in the pocket that’s the game.

If Dalton moves the ball and we get points and look like an NFL team, other teams will not be the only ones that notice. In that situation, it is some huge humble pie for Young. Maybe cut whatever delusions he is having about being held back.... may put his ass to thinking and this trade me crap turns into help me. edit: If he thinks he'll be coddled as the future somewhere else like he has been here.... ugh. No. It is put out or get out.

We have an o line that is coming together, that will be our dynamic. It helps good not great players succeed. I don't have a lot on defense.

I think Andy is looking around at guys busting their asses and Bryce is doing nothing to help them, he is fact impeding them. I think Andy wants to rescue some of his teammates and plus smell the roses one more time. You work your whole life to be something and they take it away, it sucks. He knows he is a better QB but has had to sublimate his ego for Bryce’s benefit. And has been exemplary. Andy is going to enjoy this day.

Delusional is an excellent description. And don’t wake me up with factual stuff like he 15-20 pounds lighter and a good 2” shorter than Brees. Hell no. Don‘t look at that hitch in his footwork or how he really has to give all his effort to throw balls that guys flick their wrists to make the same or better throws. It is right there on video.

So, what wouldn’t be acceptable from Dalton? The guy has been a pro since Bryce was 12. He probably will be rusty but he’ll look better fuging up than Bryce ever did.

I bet there will be some deep shots. Just hit one.

There are people in here right now that still, after all we have seen, have refused to accept any narrative that doesn’t have Bryce as the victim. You can’t fight that without getting worn out it was speculation until NFL games are in the books, because the people who will not accept what you are trying to tell them, can say you can’t prove that. Peyton had a horrible rookie year, never Jamarcus Russell had a horrible rookie year. Until Bryce throws his first NFL INT I couldn’t prove to some people that he was capable of throwing one.

So, I read the team says it does not plan to trade him. He is traded tomorrow, and the internet erupts with outrage, because they said something different and this means.... outrage!!! The world today, a ball of confusion (Temptations 1:3).

You didn't answer any of those questions.

They have only played together two weeks. I remember I was pissed Lewis was AWL (away with leave) and they weren't getting work.

ESPN won't shut up until they get their vigil going on Mint Street for the Young trade watch.

You really can't without on field play. We had no NFL evidence in June of 2023 so there was only speculation anyway. I stayed a lot away until the season. Then it is fair game because it isn't college anymore.

That wasn't the shot unless you had identified CJ as the target. Thinking that Bryce Young was a future NFL star QB, that's a big problem.

You hang in there like a pit bill, I'll give you that. I think you may learn who the real number one in that room is, tomorrow.

Yeah. Agree. I am really feeling good about the OL. So far corbett, no problem. Icky can be the problem child but it is a lot easier to work around one guy than 3. And he may turn the corner, who knows.

The only thing I can recall recently is Baker's start in 2022. I think he pulled it together in the second half a little but the next game was not good either. As I recall.

He needs a time out. He needs to Not dig his hole even deeper. It has sure looked like that would be more likely than not. Also, his play is causing division in the locker room.

I think there is some simpatico going on with that agency and ESPN to be honest. There is a concerted narrative push.

Because he is a disaster. He was getting no better at all. Hurting the team. But the FoMO is real, they want to try and fix him a little and see if he responds with better play, I guess.

If people want to put it all on the Panthers, let them if the price is right. If that is the plan.

Ostrich, Classic. Project that stuff. You are actually the one who will not see. Tell you what: if you post something I think is ignorant, I won't bother you about it anymore. So keep it up. Don't come at me with with bad premises like that Cam is being fair. Later.

Let me start asking YOU some stuff. You can answer and you can defend YOUR position. Bring it. What fuging difference does what an analyst says matter when the guy shows you who he is? Have you watched the 2024 film analysis from numerous independent sources and not ESPN? What did they have to say? The stuff is all over the place here . Warner. Chase Daniels. And what might it tell you that the dude that does QB school, did not even bother to make one for Young? But check his week one edition.

Well, give up or not, you paid big time for 4 years of control and the 5th year option. If you were certain he just was a drag on things you may not care about that but that isn't nothing. For one thing that should really attractive to a suitor, if there are any. And there are always suitors for QBs. The play is to have that Buffalo drive in an official game, even if it is just garbage time. I don't see non garbage time defenses giving him anything but if somehow you could get a matchup where he could look good then you stick him in there and hope he can look like more than he is. Maybe you can get a much better return. If they really think he is an NFL starter then no way they should trade him. I actually trust the staff to make that call.

You know what narratives. I shouldn't have to help you with this. They have been going on for a year about it isn't Bryce's fault. They use the same WR, OL bad coaching stuff. Never his fault always something else. poo is is all over this board and the media. Look I will agree with you when Bryce Young goes somewhere, wins the starting job, and proves it was never his fault.