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Bryce Young - High Ankle Sprain, out minimum 1 week
strato replied to UNCrules2187's topic in Carolina Panthers
I was going to remark that fiery stat nerd threw every irrelevant stat in the book out and somehow failed to use that one. Lol. -
That Peter Principle is the real deal a whole lot of times. And HC just seems to me to be a totally different job than the subordinate positions of coordinator (all three phases, I think John Harbaugh was a ST coach) . Anyhow it is real easy for HC people to be overwhelmed and unprepared. Such a different job. Those that hire ex HCs as mentors or coordinators are smart. But many just suck at it. You have to have all the organization in place, front office too. I tend to be supportive, at this stage, of the people we have and would be willing to stick with them like 5 years before judging their future. Because we need to establish continuity. At some point I would like to have OC that called the plays. It is too much for one guy.
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Panthers have the 3rd leading rusher in NFL
strato replied to Pantherxtreme's topic in Carolina Panthers
That’ great. Smitty was known to have one too. My man Derrick Brown looking like that without the ball in his other hand. -
Panthers have the 3rd leading rusher in NFL
strato replied to Pantherxtreme's topic in Carolina Panthers
He sort of already has. Chuba is a Captain which probably explains it a little. Canales benched Bryce let’s not forget. If he sees enough he will change it I think. On the bright side their run D is poor enough, apparently, that it may work okay this week doing the same thing -
My friend, pretty much stayed at his level for the next 30 years. But he is own boss and happy I guess. Not a bad guy personally. That is probably Tepper.
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I can’t argue too hard with established track records. Just hope because it has happened before. I think it takes massive and embarrassing failure. It isn’t hard to conceptualize the general truism that success in one field does not guarantee success in another. I have had to experience that in my the hard way before, dealing with a self made millionaire friend. Getting them to understand that is very difficult. I had to part ways to escape it 30 years later, he still hasn’t learned. But he isn’t my problem anymore…. Tepper cannot be excised so easily.
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At some point we need to commit and stick with a GM and coach. If we really want to be like Pittsburgh; Knoll, Cowher, Tomlin, we have to walk that walk. No shortcuts.
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I had hope as recently as this year that Bryce would fail so hard that Tepper just throws in the towel on dictating to the football people. But my meager sports prayers are not usually heard.
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I have a no college coach rule. Pretty hard and fast, like my no historically undersized QBs with below average NFL arms at 1.1 rule Only waived for a coach that had higher level NFL experience prior to college like a Pete Carrol maybe. Rhule was not that at all. And the most comical and memorable example of Tepper’s ego to me will always be the “I’ll take a year to learn the business side and a year to learn the football side”. ROTFLMAO at that bullshit
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there you go. Boy that is a big one. Probably other things. He has accrued some years putting up numbers.
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“ Here, let me see that thing”.
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It takes some experience to know that you don’t know. People that say that may not know but are more likely to make a good educated guess.
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Yeah. That seems a decent hope. But our coverage in the middle of the field, I don’t know what we can do about that. I think they can eat. DB could mess that up with a monster game especially against a statue, which unfortunately Allen is not.
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I did too. Also, the media here are like little fuzzy kittens compared to NYC.
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I thought this presented an interesting point. It is fair to wonder now, about switching the two QBs as so many tried to do that first year where Bryce was trash and CJ looked great. It is almost the reverse scenario now and I wonder what CJ would look like here with better weapons better coaching and better protection. Overall, compared to year one. If each player had been in the other place for the three years. I would love to see CJ with this team now. Just to see.
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He has been a good player and clean player over the years. I don’t follow that close but think he was closing in on setting his resume for his place in the all time rankings. I am sympathetic to him becaus this will hurt him there.
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If you are talking about me how are they excuses? For who? The criticism of Reich was he was outdated in his play designs and boring and too old school. I wasn’t addressing that. I simply contended that a Reich the OC play caller that people hated does not affect his ability as a QB evaluator. Separate areas that can be separate. edit PS etc As you say, there isn’t proof. We likely won’t get absolute proof. But let’s not pretend that people don’t lie. Coaches especially lie about players to the press. Owners lie about coaches. He is
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I suspect the owners might come into play. And pressure.
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Yardage based rankings are so full of holes. I do not trust them. So much chicken or egg comes into it. And when you get into the season, a team can be totally different than they were a month ago. Either direction, due to injuries or even simple improvement.
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Not unreasonable. The OL and pass pro will be the key IMO.
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I would go with we are in famine now, with those guys it was feast or maybe TV dinners with the occasional famine. 7-9 was the running joke when predicting the record for well over a decade.
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I am just a hard head that is entrenched in the idea that if you played the game for real than you know what it takes. Better than someone who has not. And will not be so easily fooled by something like an S2, media opinions, and surely not bloated water weight at a weigh in And are likely to to value the physical toolkit because you have seen how big and fast and violent the game is up close. You had to compete with those players. Morgan said early on, it is a big man’s game. I don’t think he excludes QB from that paradigm but just cannot say so publicly until this all plays out. and maybe privately too right now.
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Well, you aren’t really joking there but at the same time, talent will out. Cam in our case. Manning. All the guys that people pointed to when Bryce sucked his first year, and said they struggled too… It is such a crap shoot.. but better than it was before they slotted the pay into a reasonable stratosphere. Talk about killing your franchise paying the equivalent of modern day 50-60 million per, to a green rookie….
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Yep and I can feel it about to happen to us.
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Okay. I mean we are just discussing. I never saw Tua as being really a valid guy in tne league. But I am prejudiced against Alabama QBs because of their basic mediocre track records stepping up to the NFL so zi was probably predisposed and biased. But still correct. FWIW Bryce was such a physical outliee Bama didn’t really enter my thinking. It never became a factor for me. Anyhow Murray was kind of a toy, by my standards and not a guy I would have been excited by. Then it got to the contract clause of mandating film study and the game was lost right there. Why would you pay a guy you thought needed the stick instead of the carrot? I am just a tools first guy, for gaining admittance to move into the more thorough evaluation phase. It won’t change. I just have always been you have to meet the threshold physically before we consider your other areas of potential as a pro. Which I believe Jones passed that threshold. And has shown some flashes. Sure is doing it this year. The contention about what how pressure of a big contract might affect his performance, how the roster might lose a player or two two due to his salary precluding paying them, that is something else. If he continues to compete at this level like he is so far, I would put money on someone paying him though. And we will see what happens. oops forgot about Darnold. I saw it in him in late ‘22. The ability and him being on the cusp of getting it. He has lived up to the prove it deals, zi don’t know what they gave him in Seattle but it seems to be a good choice so far…
