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They could have each had "Andy time" written down on a piece of paper and revealed them simultaneously. And they agreed!

The worst place to be was Vegas watching your backup kick ass and show the team how it is done where you were totally impotent. How embarrassing. That is a motivator, a little bit. Should be. I can see he is trying to do what the job calls for and respect that. I think some of the reason he survived last season was he was defensive as hell and I also think he is gonna get whacked pretty good if he keeps stepping into his throws NFL QB style, trying to be one. But that's the job. Maybe not, maybe he'll be resilient.

I'd prefer a guy that didn't.

I couldn't find where they got that stat but I went to that site and looked for it. What I could pull up is their QB rankings page. Williams is #25, Young is #30. https://www.the33rdteam.com/2024-nfl-week-11-quarterback-rankings-justin-herbert-makes-big-jump/

Brady had high level success in college actually named assistant of the year, Brady is OC'ing in Buffalo and doing well. Brown still really is trying to get experience with the passing side and play calling etc. I am not dogging Brown personally, nor as a football coach within his areas of expertise; just skeptical of his experience matching with his duties. Like I was here. Same thing.

You are comparing Joe Brady to Thomas Brown? I don't know what Brown has done to warrant any kind of favorable comparison. Unless I am mistake, he was OC and RB coach at Miami but did not call the plays. And that is it pretty much it for his OC experience. Every other coaching job I can find for him in college is RB coach. Multiple times and teams. I think he gummed things up here to be honest, he had no QB coaching experience, no play calling experience, no passing game credentials.... he is going to have to put it in the record before I would give him any credibility in OC/passing land in the NFL. Between him and Bryce, you know that was a smooth ride for Reich. And the offense in general. I never understood the hire, here. I don't understand the hire in Chicago. As OC for a rookie QB? I would be curious to find his wife's social so we can keep up with how it is all going. She'll tell us and that's always entertaining.

I think we have some grit back. Burns was soft as hell and I think he was addition by subtraction in the long run. Horn, not soft. A'Shawn, I don't see him as soft. Jewell looks serviceable, I suppose Wallace may turn out okay I have been critical but her was thrown in with the green dot job, and I haven't really zeroed in on him since Jewell came back. Just unexcited to rewatch things lately.

I think they were very wary of putting a rookie in front of Young. Given what he looked like the first two games, I guess it wouldn't have mattered who was in front of him. Good or bad, same QB. But I think that is what that hangup was and kind of always did. Anyway, whatever the reason they were sticking to their plan and it wasn't a rookie C. In general this situation on the OL is much better because not only do these players directly and immediately pay off, they raise the bar for the backups too. Hopefully, because having elevated standards for the group is something that could have a payoff past just this year or next.

Our defense the week after Shaq and Jewell went down, was I think maybe the worst NFL defensive unit I have seen in 30 years. Probably forgetting someone.

Shaq tore his achilles. I repeat, torn achilles. 10 year vet that didn't make it out of September two years running. I think he deserves to stick around and prove it but I would not be counting on him being the player he was.

I am not going out to picket, but this is 30 years in and a lifetime of NFL. The environment here with the Bryce boosters was so bad. He was so bad. That hasn't died and any encouragement brings it right back. It was so nice watching normal QB style (and yes I know Dalton had tough outings, but how do you think Bryce would have handled them?). I and many others just like me have had to indulge that hopeless poo for two seasons now with people thinking he is some kind of answer. Enough is enough.

I got the same right as anyone else on here, but it isn't crazy talk. It is a basic opinion and prediction. Ignore it and enjoy the rewards. Get that kid out of here or we are fuged for year three.

The hopium though, it is too powerful to fool with and it only takes a little taste to set people back to June of 2023. It fucvking dangerous and it needs to be removed from influence.

That is about the only thing I like too. Before that, for decades.... big meh.

So is the goal to enjoy the fact that our number one overall pick that we gave for the little wonder was wasted on a bad player? Or that our bottom rung QB might now be on the second rung from the bottom? Those are both very heartening.

Everybody isn’t upset. It is about time young was treated fairly like any other player instead of being given everything. But there is no way he can beat out Dalton if it is fair.

This is how it starts. It spreads fast too. Talking yourself into it.

So you are saying to pay Jaycee we have to keep Bryce at QB? I am gonna miss Jaycee.

Pretty cool that he had his best day stats wise. Do that for four years.

I think we really need Andy to come in and remind everyone what it is supposed to look like. He's had his rest. And if he can't then we'd better find someone. Because Bryce as an NFL QB is down here and even a top 20 NFL QB is way up there.

I looked at the standings earlier. Just a glut of bad teams with 2-3 wins. You can see it on the field. The CBA is a big part of it - talk about coddling. You can't drill up a good team, they have to get good in season. Somehow. Things will change at the bottom with probably a lot of those teams playing each other etc, but this may be a little bit unlucky in that there are so many bad teams. We might fall down the list farther than we deserve.

Well here it is, his story written by me. I didn’t watch this last game closely to really see his mechanics. They were changed/corrected by Canales in the offseason. He abandoned the corrections right around the end of quarter one game one. If he reverts to his own mechanics he cannot get anything on the ball at all. With the mechanics he is still too small and short and weak armed to be a very successful passer in the NFL but he might be able to stay employed. Without them it is game over, cut him please. I noticed some stuff that had me thinking the plays that are getting called are plays where he doesn’t use those old mechanics like the throwing on the run things. And plays where he can do the one two three plant throw. Some of what Canales means when he says plays that there is confidence in is referring to that sort of thing as much as it is the actual throws. I just think that his best is not good enough to excel in the NFL and will be happy when we can have a QB where the challenge part is football not arm strength, height, poor mechanics, that isn’t a three to four year project to just get up to league average. At best.

If Young is the future, go ahead and kill me.

I like the play designs on some things. The calling is subject to lots of variables. Get us a QB that doesn’t have to have a speed governor installed on the offense so he can run it, then let’s see.

Naming the QBs that struggled is the same thing as saying oh Peyton Manning and Troy Aikman had horrible rookie years, and applying that to Young as if he is those guys... when they were prototypical prospects and Young is a total outlier physically. And saying it without acknowledging that plenty of horrible mistakes had bad rookie seasons, and just stayed horrible.