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Just take 2 players and zoom in, never mind the other deficiencies; when you have a 3rd round rookie and whatever Cherilus is, thrown in there green plus has to make the calls and line people up you have the blind leading the blind. What the hell can you do about it, you have to field a team or forfeit.

Good point, it is definitely a possibility not to be dismissed. I sure hope not. But, you have the coup de gras of Dalton showing what Young is not, immediately without hesitation and in living ginger color. No one could miss that. No one. The only recourse at that point for a stan, is the Panthers ruined him. Because he very obviously can't hold a candle to a journeyman NFL QB, and there must be a reason - right? Yeah that's it, they ruined him.

I guess you haven't noticed that the board is toxic towards everything almost. The defense, irrationally attacked for being all they can be lol. Yeah they are bad. Morgan, Canales, the draft picks, the new analytical guy even, all targets of toxicity and you can find it running through these discussions. As far as Bryce Young, we have fuging suffered enough. Time for him to be put out of our misery. Pound for pound dollar for dollar, who has ever been worse for such a long time? That's a very short list at best.

Those passing charts with the 12 yard rectangle are death for him. 12 yards is being generous because iirc there were only a couple past 10. Those were the 'deep' throws lol. Easiest argument ender ever is when you have Dalton in the exact same offensive unit he next week and what happened, happened.

I forget what I read but it was some skeptical stuff I read somewhere, I haven't done any tape watching or anything myself. Won't until the season is done. So call me lazy... and combine that with the crap that Young is 204 pounds and that probably every one of them is inaccurately listed by their school.

Two or three still plugging away here if they think the coast is clear - like when some writer trolls everybody. And the 'Carolina ruined him' is something they think they can fall back to as a last resort. ... But it is untrue as well. I couldn't think of how to prove he wasn't but I am not the smartest guy around. I can read though... and I heard a good one from a youtube fan. It was "well, he got ruined after the Green Bay game then, I guess." 13 games of being ruined just to shake it off like it never happened? Right. Nope, not ruined then. So damn, it must have been those final two games and the 2024 training camp that did it? Okay....

It was all because of Young. Propping him up with ‘the best’ pass catching RB in the class - for that 12 yard passing zone Bryce owns like no one else. Every freaking thing they did was ham fisted overkill aimed at eliminating all excuses. Not advocating or defending it, just trying to reason out the why. There actually is a chance he will be really really good.

Someone was saying the really wanted Lock.

Also, since this is the game thread I’ll put this here about Wallace. Help me out. Am I the only one that watches his post game videos and get the impression that he is happier than he should be after having his ass handed to him where the defense gave up 38 points? Because that is what he seems like. Totally fine, not pissed off, is what I see. Like it was good enough. Two weeks in a row it is like that. Someone tell me that he actually is pissed and not just fuging happy to get a paycheck win or lose, and I am misinterpreting his demeanor. Say it with a straight face.

He held out? Lol. I am still confused with all this high finance and the cap rules. It accelerates immediately to our cap except whatever future salary he is due, right? And we are in for 2 more years of the prorated bonus. This year’s signing bonus portion is already accounted for in the cap but then we have to take 6.15 more on this year and 6 .15 next year or would it be all 12, subject maybe to deferment with the June 1st. If we trade him the salary and roster bonuses go with him, right? He is not yet a vested vet so he has to clear waivers if we want to just dump him, wouldn’t he? Can’t unconditionally release him can we? Heh - that little fuger has us over a barrel coming and going. lol again, has a number one overall pick ever been waived in year two?

If he stays on the team he may get to 5th by years end. 11 games left.

With you excluding you know who. He needs to go anywhere else, for any return or no return. What is the point of having him in a competition he can’t win? Tank his value further. Maybe. Let him prove someone else wrong.

It was a Jets home game with the refs helping them some and the interim coach bump in play. The better team won somehow.

And the less aggravated I will be. So tired of the excuse making that still happens daily. Thanks to Canales for not playing him Sunday.

We had our one player bump already. Bryce Young starting for you, you are in take one player away mode.

Good one.

They seem like they have been extra careful and I am betting unless he has some kind of setback we will see him in a couple of weeks.

The Tepper I have observed for 7 long years or whatever it is, would never have accepted benching his draft folly that quick. So he has changed in one area at least a little. Or seems to be trying to.

That was my attitude and the reason I wasn't even upset about the preseason stuff. We had the whole year to practice. I knew it. Others did but they can't stick to it when the games start. I mean I love to win a game as much as anyone and am never unhappy about that but we knew what we were in store for.

Probably be more of a tag and trade if it goes that far. Interesting to me that Canales did not reject out of hand a trade deadline question about Chuba being moved, like he seemed to with Johnson. Any cheap FA vet would be okay afaic, we've done okay at that. Let's find a Mike Tolbert.

I don't how they grade but there are a lot of times it doesn't match up with what I thought I saw. And this is for sure one of those times. Aside for the grading, we got called for a bullshit roll block or whatever they call it these days (he went into the guy shoulder to waist at least, got defeated and pushed down and THAT was called, as if he just went low to start with). And on my rewatch they clearly did it to our player on the other side of the same play. I think it was 77 they went low just like that on.

Seeing him as only 4 points better than Mingo, that is not a reliable grading system they are using.

Obviously, the worst thing would be to force it just because of need. I only would accept using a high pick like that again on a QB if Canales swore by him. And just because, in these circumstances, that should be his call.

People said it was weak in 2023. Like the people in 2022 were saying about 2023 (which it was, except for Stroud). This is why we should wait for the season to play out. Players at that age (and experience level) can make non linear leaps in a fairly short time.

Learning year, all rookies get one.