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Better than I thought. I don't see Wilson improving on that at all.

He is very good. I think people are getting sticker shock. I have no issue with re-upping him if we can afford to.

yeah we saw that on offense last year.

His ceiling is pretty low. If they bench him for Wilson? Proof.

Good lord, please no.

I would not trade much at all for him. Pass completely. Not interested, really. Okay, maybe Bryce straight up but who would give Fields for that?

“When it comes to his relationship with the quarterback, with Bryce, he’s a guy who has been around a lot of great quarterbacks,” Smith said, via Mike Kaye of The Charlotte Observer. “And he knows how to coach them. He’s coached some really good quarterbacks, and he has a system, he has a style, he knows exactly what he wants done and how he wants it done. And he’s going to get Bryce to do that through repetition, through practice, through meeting time and classroom and the film room.” ------------------ In his first year with the Buccaneers under the stewardship of Canales, Mayfield was selected to the Pro Bowl for the first time in his career after throwing for 4,044 yards, 28 touchdowns, and 10 interceptions. ------------------- Okay so maybe he isn't Bill Walsh or Mike Holmgren Brian Billick or whoever.... these are not exactly condemnations.

If you look at Cam's youtube video on Bryce Young's benching and failure, he will enumerate every asset he was given over Bryce, himself. Horse's mouth. And it wasn't nothing. But he acts like Bryce was not given anything and that is not true - as shown in his 2024 "I am not an NFL QB" promo clip.

It is a conditional 3rd that could be a 2nd (doubtful but not impossible).

Yeah. Imma brighten this up with 'our current people found Coker and got him for Nothing'. So the evals are looking up.

The constant staff turnover is a factor for sure. I think, realistically, we should continue with the scheme so we can at least not take big steps backwards. I know the argument could be that we have nothing and it is the right tie to change it because we have nothing to lose, but I would be hesitant. We have some young players with some potential playing in this scheme right now and the depth guys are getting a lot of experience as well. You go changing it again and wtf, more years of pain. Just stick another 3/4 DC type in there and keep rolling (over, lol).

A couple of things here for people who think he isn't. Or just for some validation. Keyshawn totally speaks for me. Everything I thought, he says. Merriman, is so wrong but he did not have the benefit at the time, of seeing Dalton with the same offense a few days later, and fell into the typically lame 'Panthers ruined him' trap. Which the Green Bay game totally debunks, but of course he probably didn't see that either. The other one, just for some reinforcement. If you like the Falcons struggling, rewind 30 seconds.

Dominoes falling.

Well the false starts and the illegal formations or shifts reminded me of the Seattle game in 2023. Moving backwards on 1st down kills you.

I expect it. I am happy to see the mistake I made (though now I do want to find postgame video). I was good with the pick and agree he'll get better. This will be good for him in the long run.

I know about this because he is the one I was hoping we would take. And having just gone and looked at who we passed over to take RB that high, you will poo if you look at it. I think the Saints traded up to 67 but we originally had the 72nd pick so it was doable.

I remember it being noted that the Atlanta D was wearing down. That sucked.

The thing that got me was the cavalier attitude to the buy in. It was a huge risk whoever we took at the point we made that trade. And that risk was brushed aside, casually. It was like poor people buying a Cadillac. Or these days, an Escalade or something. You are gonna stay poor.

Obviously. Shudder to think of what they (rules committee) will do in reaction to low passing stats early this season.

We paid the Bryce price. They were given that game.

What's a shootout these days? Mid 30s? 40s? Saints gave up 50. Asses kicked with a legit 27 points on the board. I don't know what to think anymore. I am an old school football fan that doesn't need those kinds of offensive displays to enjoy a game, but that seems to have passed me by. I fuging loved Foxball to be honest. Ball control and bad ass defense. It wouldn't hurt me if the league's pendulum took us back there.

I would temper that with our defense isn't good enough for shootouts either, more than our offense even. They are shoot downs, in cold blood. If we score 30 we aren't winning. That's about horrible. Dalton, the WR lineup he came into, the OL that was together, we could score points. We had no WR depth really, that really fuged us.

I didn't scout Clausen as I recall. It was an out of the blue thing to me also. That E Brown crap might have been the final straw for Hurney with me. It came from panic over Peppers, I thought, and I didn't know who was doing the panicking whether it was JR (who I pretty much blamed for the whole Peppers tagging and the resulting cap crisis) or Hurney or Fox panicking for that matter. Someone was too desperate to replace JP. (I know JP was still there, but that was his replacement). That trading next year's 1st stuff, again. The cardinal sin for me. You do that and I hate you. I was very much against the trade for a QB last year. Totally opposed. And I do agree that with Stroud we would have still been handicapped by the cost, no doubt. But also no doubt that he would not have been the disaster that gave Chicago the 1st overall in 2024.

Thing is though, when your D can stop no one nor barely slow them down, you are going to get decent TOP numbers aren't you? I mean, avoid the 3 and outs and you will be right there. Stats... are a murky pool to swim in sometimes. Like rushing defense, when they pass all over you then your rushing numbers might fool someone. "Oh, look, we are 10th against the run!". Okay... actually that works really good for passing defense, when you really suck on offense they don't need to pass.

Well, you are Panthers focused. Start watching a 1 win college team go out there outmatched every week and see how much fun it is. The purity of the amateur game is no more, totally gone. Not even a facade exists any more. Greed has ruined that for me. I'll watch the state teams here and there. For me that is pretty much S Carolina, Clemson, and Coastal Carolina (local). I have seen parts of a couple of S Carolina games, and they are for sure more fun to watch than Panthers games on average, even post Young.