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So a couple of offsides one called on the d, Mays gets called, something is going on up there.

Damn

Okay let’s see little man’s scripted plays here

I'm prepared to see an indignant wave of Bryce excuses. This will be a very good test for him though. Not the Saints D.

I watched the first half of that playoff game vs Minnesota in 2022 (early 2023) and he wasn't bad. Fell asleep and didn't watch the rest. Really gangly and not as fluid/coordinated looking as Cam for instance. Tall guy playing QB... it didn't surprise me that he fell down on the clip someone posted. But he produced the results, was accurate with the ball and effective running it. A whole drive was mostly him running the ball whether designed or escaping to get some yards. I am pretty sure he is better than what we have, whatever anybody says. Going from that. And granted, it was his zenith and possibly not representative of any given Sunday.

Yeah. OTOH I do see value in involving the coordinators and the coaches in getting what they need. I think probably the larger drawback of letting the coaches have that influence (the DJ pick notwithstanding) is the lack of continuity we have experienced. Because the next coach is less likely to have the same criteria as the last guy and here you go with players not fitting or whatever and the constant change doesn't allow our front office and scouts to find their sweet spot with the coaches' value system.

I mean, I've had mustard based that is very good. It isn't my first choice. I was raised up in SE Va and a lot of the stuff there was like Eastern NC. With the thin vinegar stuff. Some good memories of a couple of spots in the '60s that were in places that it may as well have been the '40s or even the '20s the way they did it with the pits and all.

Why is it gatekeeping to have preferences? Wood for bbq by ten miles.

Yeah he isn't getting complacent and still wants it despite already being rich.

I watch a little South Carolina football, Very little really but I saw some of the opener with ODU and some of a few more games. This guy Sellers is serious. I didn't realize he was so green in that ODU game I just thought he was not that good. From that game to now, that kid has made huge strides. I watched most of the Missouri game and caught the endings or 4th qtrs of the Alabama and LSU games, and I just discovered that he is like 19 years old. It looks like he is going to be somebody to me. People should look at him.

It sure is. Good i mean. I debated on including it, still debating.

I don't get mad because you want that. But when I tried it? Don't worry about me stealing any of yours. Raised on Dukes but in the day you couldn't get Dukes outside the south, we'd take a few jars up north after visits home. I did used to like the Kraft when they put lemon in it. The Dukes bbq sauces from different states are pretty cool, they have Alabama white, Tennessee, Georgia, SC and more. The NC one is really good for store bought.

Too late to edit above but the quote is from this Diane Russini article in the Athletic: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5941684/2024/11/23/russinis-what-im-hearing-the-day-the-jets-fell-apart-and-the-broncos-rallied-belichick-best-fits/ Okay.. there you have sorry I left that out the first post. Also waivers keep the contract intact. That is the major difference in released and waived. It's all in that link from the other post.

Okay so I am reading something in The Athletic and it says that Jones had to pass through waivers. So I don't know. I looked this stuff up when we were number one there all offseason and I thought it said 4 years in the league got you vested, as they call it. Vested gets you out of waivers as I understood it. I probably got something wrong, but when I think about the slack quality of journalism these days I wonder about that. So I went and looked, again. Well, well. For everyone: "When a player has accrued at least four seasons in the NFL, they are considered a vested veteran. When these vested veterans get cut, they are released and their contract is terminated. When a vested veteran is released, they are an unrestricted free agent that can sign with any NFL team, and the team that released them doesn’t need to provide any additional compensation." It runs it all down here, where the quotes came from: https://www.profootballnetwork.com/waived-vs-released-nfl/ As far as Jones, the team turned down his 5th year option so I knew that meant he had 4 years in, because they re-signed him anyway, after turning down the much cheaper extra year. The Athletic is owned by the New York Times so I shouldn't be surprised. That paper was an institution once upon a time but they let their standards go.

Ribs definitely are bbq. What some people call bbq is just any old meat cooked outside on a bbq grill they call it. A charcoal grill. It could be hot dogs and hamburgers and that’s bbq. Those people normally aren’t from the south.

Sure is. I got a pellet grill a couple of years ago and it is the easiest thing ever for making excellent butts and shoulders, all that stuff and more. It is kind of unbelievable what comes out if I just follow instructions.

I mean, we are conditioned now to accept a little higher level of subpar play (subpar for a legit NFL starter) as improvement and proof that he is a real NFL QB. When I remember the first game he played I was baffled, totally, at the lack of downfield action, that I blamed it on Reich protecting him. I was basically grasping for any straw to explain it. His first game. There was no Reich protecting him like I thought, Reich simply knew Young could not have success throwing downfield. His stupid slow footwork and weak arm is why, It wasn't to keep him safe. How many now, 23 times? That has not changed. We are just conditioned to expect less, because we have been watching SO much less than 'NFL good' play from him. Now, watching him try to play NFL ball is no longer a foreign and weird experience, because we have seen it 23 times. Conditioned. So you get into relativism or a grading curve or something. Time to wake the fug up and drop these low expectations being his bar for good.

I did the same, but wouldn't be surprised if they made a pizza like that out there.

The KC sauce is mostly what I can't get with. Sweet, thick, like the top of a meat loaf lol.

No need for apologies Sir. I thought you missed that I had given a much more positive estimate earlier but we were called out for being too opti-mystic. So I tried to make them happy. Maybe I owe you one.

Go on and move to California they have the foo foo gourmet avocado pineapple and truffles pizza.

You kidding right? Slow roasted pig all the way. I like the thin vinegar/hot pepper sauce the best but mustard, tomato based, I don't care it is all good. Now, a KC steak? They win that one probably.

My first thought was, Legette should be there with him.

I don't think Rodgers but probably not for the political reasons I bet a lot of posters are motivated by. I just think he is not the QB for the Panthers, at all. Too old, too expensive, too fragile, no longer elite.

It wasn't great but the 2022 NYG won 9 of 16 games plus a playoff game. He had a 92.5 passer rating. 15 pass TDs 3200 yards, 7 rushing TD, 700 yards 6 fumbles 3 lost. His first season he had 18 fumbles lost 11. Wow. Anyhow he had problems in 2023 with injuries and didn't win poo before tearing his ACL. This year, no Barkley, not good, but you know.... these ACLs take a while and it was right and he throws right so pushes off of it. I agree it doesn't hurt to let that guy compete cheap. You don't hand him the job like with Bryce or NYG with him. When I look at what we have been saddled with, he doesn't look worse and has the physical advantage. So I don't get the umbrage given our situation. This "No we won't settle for anything less that the best" attitude and then taking Bryce Young was pathetic and I think that attitude brought us to where we are. That's where that poo gets you. Away from Mayfield, away from Darnold, even away from PJ - just to replace them with an inferior PJ. At the same time I am not really advocating for the guy just looking at it objectively. It could be another guy with the same story. And yes the odds of him getting it are low but the numbers and performance from 2022 are for sure better than we see with Bryce even after a season of major propping him up with better players around him. Take a look don't take a look he fails or he doesn't fail... to instead sit here and be happier with what we have is bullshit.