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I love almost everything we did in the offseason but we still have Bryce. They have to be favored. Sorry I just can’t see him as an asset yet. His first chance to prove me wrong. And WIliams was a LOT better last year than 2024. He will probably still be getting better before he hits his plateau.

Since Bryce got here we have taken to the woodshed week one no matter who we played. I am not predicting anything though. All I can do is picture Williams and his nail polish slinging it over everybody’s head, on a dime, off his back foot. And us countering with Bryce bailing the pocket and heading for the right sideline to either throw it OB or launch it maybe 15 or 20 yards downfield with varying degrees of success.

Because it bears repeating and the universe made sure that happened?

I’d have to go back and look at video of Chark but first impression is I don’t think they are a match. We know WRs are really a crap shoot especially rookies. And the QB we have throwing to him IMO will result in sub optimum production so that is a consideration. For me, I know others don’t see it like that. But the balance I see from Brazell is most impressive. And gives me some reason to hope.

Any affirmation of Bryce in terms of a few more years is pretty damned ominous. I have been a proponent of interpreting all of this as coach speak but that is as much wishing it is coach speak on my part as anything. Keeping the denial in play as long as possible.

I think incompetence is a little strong. He was given a nightmare QB to work with and forced to start him right away. He knew immediately that it wouldn’t work like that and tried to get Andy in and when that happened the difference was night and day as far as the look and feel of the offense. He may be short on innovation and in that sense behind the curve of the modern day league but there is a lot stuff he knew about the QB position and the league in general. The fundamentals of the position don’t change as far as your footwork and form etc. If Fitterer indeed assembled that staff and Bryce was forced on him with that the likes of Thomas Brown being his OC Frank was given an impossible situation. Nothing against Brown other than he was a running back and not that experienced and the last type of pedigree that I would trust to develop a rookie QB. I have no doubt people were telling Bryce different things. Anyhow aside from all that I am sort of interested to see how bad the NYJ offense gets abused this year with him running it. I mean I do agree that the league has passed him by philosophically. Though it is swinging a little back to the old school. Which we have had to do as well. And the prescription for a weak inexperienced QB really was just about what Ceank ran. Conservative, strong running game. When we have tried to do otherwise with Bryce it is mostly miss not too much hit. I mean cutting him loose to do a pass first attack has been a disaster when we can’t run the ball.

That could never work. I am surprised Frank ever agreed to anything close to that. I guess the life changing money gets even people with integrity to compromise against their better judgement.

A full 6 years of our lives. I could barely do three.

A person like that, if the husband were out of the picture, the claws would come out for whatever is still around.

Along those lines, it seems like a lot of decisions were taken out of Frank’s hands. I don’t think he had complete freedom to staff his assistants. I think Tepper and/or Fitterer dictated some of the hires. That’s how you get coaches giving different advice to a player. It is how you start without everyone pulling the same way and being on the same page. They have different allegiances. Recipe for trouble. Who thinks Frank picked Thomas Brown to be his OC? Just for instance. Evero, forgetting the OL coach’s name but he was held over as well, pretty sure. Just a couple of examples.

I tend to agree that Pickett could be a drop in and you don’t lose anything, worst case. Best case he outplays him. I think he can give Bryce a run for his money. Which says more about what I think about Bryce probably than Pickett. Bryce has one advantage which is two years of starts n this same offense.

The baby ones with his mug shopped in got me laughing.

Yeah lol well the interest isn’t really about seeking stimulation. I wanted to see how actually bad it was. And how much of it was women setting him up to be their cash cow. That is the stuff that leveraged the Panthers into David Tepper’s hands. It is important in that sense. The worst that I have heard is that he got them in the car and clumsily reached across to help them with their seat belt and made contact. With his arm. That was probably his big slick move. And I can almost guarantee he wasn’t rejected every time. It is easy to picture that action bringing his head close enough to the woman’s head to where he could go in for the kiss if he thought he got the green light. I really don’t care if JR was a horn dog. We heard all our lives up until the last few years that one of the perks of being really old is that you can flirt with the young women and it is not just tolerated but expected. So he was keeping a tradition alive at some point

Well I rubbed some dirt on it and am still here just not optimistic about the future of the QB position. Even what I had accepted as a ceiling raised to an acceptable level turned out to be a bit of a mirage, upon rewatch of the WC game. Good plays were there yes, but some pretty bad ones too that the good ones late in the game kind of obscured. I have to downgrade that a little. Especially after rewatching the last 4 plays. I remember the arguments about he did his job the WRs didn’t but that was really just that last muff by Coker I think it was on our final offensive play. To the future: I know what my level is for paying him and recommitting, but I don’t have any confidence that the team shares my high bar. But thanks for the pep talk

Sorry to you purists, can’t resist. And if you don’t laugh I wonder about you.

Yeah and they count YAC that a good WR would/should have gotten to make that stretch to 200-250 yards. I have actually seen that here.

Forgive me for being extremely pessimistic on that count. I think three years, and just the initial WTF? of it all going down in the first place has me like a battered spouse or an abused animal, flinching at any sudden movement. Afraid of the shadow of an extension.

Hey there is nothing revisionist about stating a record. What’s revisionist? I have to review but I don’t remember elaborating about how those 12 games were won or lost. I do know exactly how the team played, schemed and won (and lost) that Wilks stretch of games. I believe, without looking, he had to use PJ early because Sam wasn’t ready. An ankle I think. And Wilks slow played that and slow played Darnold n his return to protect him or his psyche or both in that return. He wanted to build Sam’s confidence. Did it by using a heavy dose of Foreman and Chuba. Heavy run. But we had deep balls and passing too. Actual old school deep balls. Things of beauty too rarely seen here since. Just thinking, how is relying on the run game for Sam any different that running Rico for plus or minus 300 yards a game to win. We hid the hell out of Bryce in some games, are you going to say that revisionist?

I am not gonna make a claim I can’t back up and say you are wrong but I think there is obvious enthusiasm and belief from Tepper. And that, like poo and water, flows downhill. I would bet, just guessing, that Tepper has asked what an extension would cost already. Like, what is it gonna cost me and can we work our cap, etc etc.

It is true. He has 100% gotten run down by big fast guys before. These big guys are fast now, a lot of them. It is also true what you say, he has evaded people as well. He does seem to be improving his awareness but I don’t think he has been caught by the last 280 pound man chasing him. There will be more. The WC game, just rewatched, and on his TD scramble somehow the linebacker had mental paralysis just long enough to allow Bryce to evade him. It was a poor reaction though. Cement shoes for a second. All it took, he couldn’t recover. Good play by Bryce.

Another one: The actual truth, real quotes and context of JR’s racial slur incident. And the NDA sexual harassment type stuff, spilled and spelled out. And yeah I agree Navy we will likely never get any of it.

Some actual detail on that would be great. The stuff you say, was out there but never real detailed or specific.

Some insight about Peppers and JR how that all went down and the tag being used on him which I always felt was directly responsible for the big Jake extension. We were in no position to pay the 19 or 20 million tag charge at the time. It was also the domino that fell into getting Everette Brown and trading that future 1st. I thought. Would like to know. A lot of stuff around Bryce. A lot. Why? Why Not CJ, he looked so much better. I believe that ruined the Reich hire. More… love to get the actual real deal on who the moles/snitches were that were meddling over those 4 or 5 months. More… what the exact terms of Morgan’s hire, what was he told what did he agree to? Same for Canales. That’ll do for now.

I guess it Is tough, defending him really doesn’t come with a lot of great material to credibly argue against his negatives. You only have stuff like he was great at Bama. Yes he can make all the throws. No that tippy toe passing mess doesn’t hurt him, it works for him. He made the playoffs and almost beat the Rams (your best one) He needs a TE in the first round, and another 1st round WR. And a coach that can actually call good plays and take advantage of his talent. See, that stuff is getting weaker line by line. I am running low already, tough assignment.

Oh lord. I completely am not a guy who considered that movie a good idea.