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Mental is why he disappeared he had plenty of talent. And it is not strange that they would change the scheme but strange we kept the 22 OL coach for 2023

We are talking 2022 with Anderson but the other guys weren’t they 2023? Trying to keep up. Bozeman was loved here in 2022 fwiw according to my memory. In 2023 he was hated. I don’t know the reason for the 180 did people see no flaws I 2022? Hmmm Okay even if it was simplistic the offense worked so much better than the following year Read into that whatever, but in 2023 I don’t know what the fug they were thinking with ‘our new point guard is going to elevate all these average receivers and we are gonna go straight to the playoffs! I believe they really thought that. Wasn’t Dontae Johnson 2024? Seen no more of him. He was on track for a pretty good payday and all he had to do was speak diplomatically and do his job. Nope, too hard for him.

Hurst was kind of on his way out with injury stuff when he came I think. He was a name people knew and they were thinking completely differently than today - remember, people said it was a playoff team.

I’m don’t think his mind is on the game like at all. For some reason I was cool to this pick when it was announced. And I really know nothing about him. Just some inner vibe thing. I might be a little better than 50/50 on those feels but nothing to bank on. I know a lot of people like him. As a player.

Maybe, but that 1pm -4pm heat should be advantage us. Ill take 1pm

Ben Johnson’s 2nd year, Williams’ second in that system That generally leads to an improvement. I will be a good test for our defense, at all three levels.

Bryce and AT were made for each other.

That is a good stanning stat PFF should be all over it.

I sort of get the 5th year. Apparently today, keeping it to a one year contract is not giving them respect and now they aren’t playing for a deal from you at that point they are playing for their FA contract. And they will want to stick it to you if they blow up. Hell at that point you are just a foil to get their price up. And they want to teach you a lesson for not believing in them. Instead of the goodwill that 5th year shows - where maybe you might get them at a mid contract like 33mil, he’ll no it is is 60 million now. And your 26 million 5th year looks like a bargain. I don’t know if I have it explained right but it is something like that Where you can split the the 26.5 over two years cap wise if you want out. And the NFL throws numbers like this around like it it spillage. Teams have 100 million cap hits they absorb. They just have too much money to allow it to constrain their reach; it is just a number to them - all of them the teams, the players, the league itself

I love almost everything we did in the offseason but we still have Bryce. They have to be favored. Sorry I just can’t see him as an asset yet. His first chance to prove me wrong. And WIliams was a LOT better last year than 2024. He will probably still be getting better before he hits his plateau.

Since Bryce got here we have taken to the woodshed week one no matter who we played. I am not predicting anything though. All I can do is picture Williams and his nail polish slinging it over everybody’s head, on a dime, off his back foot. And us countering with Bryce bailing the pocket and heading for the right sideline to either throw it OB or launch it maybe 15 or 20 yards downfield with varying degrees of success.

Because it bears repeating and the universe made sure that happened?

I’d have to go back and look at video of Chark but first impression is I don’t think they are a match. We know WRs are really a crap shoot especially rookies. And the QB we have throwing to him IMO will result in sub optimum production so that is a consideration. For me, I know others don’t see it like that. But the balance I see from Brazell is most impressive. And gives me some reason to hope.

Any affirmation of Bryce in terms of a few more years is pretty damned ominous. I have been a proponent of interpreting all of this as coach speak but that is as much wishing it is coach speak on my part as anything. Keeping the denial in play as long as possible.

I think incompetence is a little strong. He was given a nightmare QB to work with and forced to start him right away. He knew immediately that it wouldn’t work like that and tried to get Andy in and when that happened the difference was night and day as far as the look and feel of the offense. He may be short on innovation and in that sense behind the curve of the modern day league but there is a lot stuff he knew about the QB position and the league in general. The fundamentals of the position don’t change as far as your footwork and form etc. If Fitterer indeed assembled that staff and Bryce was forced on him with that the likes of Thomas Brown being his OC Frank was given an impossible situation. Nothing against Brown other than he was a running back and not that experienced and the last type of pedigree that I would trust to develop a rookie QB. I have no doubt people were telling Bryce different things. Anyhow aside from all that I am sort of interested to see how bad the NYJ offense gets abused this year with him running it. I mean I do agree that the league has passed him by philosophically. Though it is swinging a little back to the old school. Which we have had to do as well. And the prescription for a weak inexperienced QB really was just about what Ceank ran. Conservative, strong running game. When we have tried to do otherwise with Bryce it is mostly miss not too much hit. I mean cutting him loose to do a pass first attack has been a disaster when we can’t run the ball.

That could never work. I am surprised Frank ever agreed to anything close to that. I guess the life changing money gets even people with integrity to compromise against their better judgement.

A full 6 years of our lives. I could barely do three.

A person like that, if the husband were out of the picture, the claws would come out for whatever is still around.

Along those lines, it seems like a lot of decisions were taken out of Frank’s hands. I don’t think he had complete freedom to staff his assistants. I think Tepper and/or Fitterer dictated some of the hires. That’s how you get coaches giving different advice to a player. It is how you start without everyone pulling the same way and being on the same page. They have different allegiances. Recipe for trouble. Who thinks Frank picked Thomas Brown to be his OC? Just for instance. Evero, forgetting the OL coach’s name but he was held over as well, pretty sure. Just a couple of examples.

I tend to agree that Pickett could be a drop in and you don’t lose anything, worst case. Best case he outplays him. I think he can give Bryce a run for his money. Which says more about what I think about Bryce probably than Pickett. Bryce has one advantage which is two years of starts n this same offense.

The baby ones with his mug shopped in got me laughing.

Yeah lol well the interest isn’t really about seeking stimulation. I wanted to see how actually bad it was. And how much of it was women setting him up to be their cash cow. That is the stuff that leveraged the Panthers into David Tepper’s hands. It is important in that sense. The worst that I have heard is that he got them in the car and clumsily reached across to help them with their seat belt and made contact. With his arm. That was probably his big slick move. And I can almost guarantee he wasn’t rejected every time. It is easy to picture that action bringing his head close enough to the woman’s head to where he could go in for the kiss if he thought he got the green light. I really don’t care if JR was a horn dog. We heard all our lives up until the last few years that one of the perks of being really old is that you can flirt with the young women and it is not just tolerated but expected. So he was keeping a tradition alive at some point

Well I rubbed some dirt on it and am still here just not optimistic about the future of the QB position. Even what I had accepted as a ceiling raised to an acceptable level turned out to be a bit of a mirage, upon rewatch of the WC game. Good plays were there yes, but some pretty bad ones too that the good ones late in the game kind of obscured. I have to downgrade that a little. Especially after rewatching the last 4 plays. I remember the arguments about he did his job the WRs didn’t but that was really just that last muff by Coker I think it was on our final offensive play. To the future: I know what my level is for paying him and recommitting, but I don’t have any confidence that the team shares my high bar. But thanks for the pep talk

Sorry to you purists, can’t resist. And if you don’t laugh I wonder about you.

Yeah and they count YAC that a good WR would/should have gotten to make that stretch to 200-250 yards. I have actually seen that here.