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It is a little incongruent to see ‘not in place to make demands’ next to the sentiment of extension candidate. Yeah no one disputes that he has played well in places. Very well in a couple. But a whole lot of it is not what you want your NFL team to be putting on the field.

He got the wake-up call. We’ll see if he can answer. I fear that he won’t but we need depth and backups too. He can do that. He can have a good game we have seen it.

Yeah he is sunk cost. No point in not seeing if he can be of help. I think he can be. If he wasn’t aware of his weak hold on the starting spot, he is now Competition for snaps is what we need to have in all the rooms.

He missed a lot of time. Was slow getting back up to speed. And we have an offense that is not exactly WR friendly so his targets were low. How many targets does anyone get when you have 120 yards passing, 54 yards passing, 160 yards, most of the time? It probably took the time it needed to take.

His agent will likely not see it that way and I am afraid the team won’t want to rock the boat. Like I said somewhere else, if he really rises to the playoff occasion I am okay with giving him the job next year and if he really kills it I would begrudgingly accept the 5th year. But that is what this whole year has been about and it has been up and down and a couple of excellent games and then poverty again. Purgatory where you don’t have certainty. It is no secret that I have never had any faith in him, it is a very tough sell.

Agree totally. We have fuged ourselves post Rivera on continuity. Continuity is a highly regard pillar of sustained success IMO. Lack of it, very detrimental to the same. But a short term QB change to hold the line while you find another guy is not doing that. This thing with Bryce, now, is moving into the territory of the ultimatum the long time girlfriends give. To me Bryce is the girl sitting around the house in sweats and going to bed with face cream and a hair net. The one you thought was hot and you move in together and it ain’t what you thought it would be. And now she wants that ring. It’s on you if you do it.

My impression obviously is we could do better for the money and if that means a one and done vet for 2026 and something else the next year, I am fine with that. And I know your mind is made up but some people feel like we need to be able to see what Canales can do with a more conventional guy to scheme and play call for. Because we think the playbook is cut down. If you keep Bruce you keep the leash on the offense too and we won’t get any chance to see. We need to know about him too. And doing the Reich thing with one season at a time protects us from Canales drafting a guy and then getting fired and that being a mess.

Having a ceiling on what the offense can generate is for sure why we end up only one score ahead in some of these games. But I am thinking the QB play needs to be better as a larger factor than the WRs having more experience, to make a leap.

FTR I would agree, though with little enthusiasm, to Young being here for his fourth year as an audition for an extension. Or to enter the ‘27 FA market, without that 5th year. But people say that can’t happen. He is under contract, so I disagree, but I am overruled by the consensus opinion. He gets 12 mil for ‘26. If you pick up that 5th and 26.5 is accurate, you are looking at 19 plus mil per season for two years. What could we get for two years for that money should be a bigger question.

If you want to take it that way, feel free. Just kidding you, you know what I think of it.

This is where I am. Pretty much. I want an alternative to that 5th year money. And two year commitment that leads us down the multi year extension path. We could do what Reich did in Indy after Luck deserted for that matter, until we find a guy, without losing anything on the field. And find a guy… to develop. Find two guys. Just reset this thing and let’s not double down on a mediocre low floor future. I think signing Bryce to an extension would be no better than that and far more expensive.

Yeah, it reads as if you could be the author.

Did you write that? Nice job.

I feel the same way Loomis does. He would take the playoff game though if he had it, and say something different.

Yeah watch that Gruden interview, the last 5 minutes for some footwork insight. That was after last year.

6 pages. Wow did someone dis Bryce again? Can’t read it all but this is low hanging clicks by the rumor mongers. It doesn’t stand to reason. To me. I guess I am biased here with being negative on Bryce but I can’t see Harbaugh hitching his wagon to Bryce. Meaning Tepper would willingly jettison his boy and Canales for Harbaugh. Which I can’t see.

It isn’t everybody. It is the faction akin to those that brought us threads where you could only say positive things about Bryce. It is a troll poll anyway. There is no such reality where the options given in this poll will ever influence Bryce Young’s future or the Panthers’ future. Drama edit I said that wrong, the lose option is really the one that is not realistic. They have made their decision already, pretty sure.

I think that’s fair. But that 5th year, he has to get two. Or ball out and win one and then play a great game but lose a heartbreaker, I would probably take that. But legit balling out. Playoff heroics and stuff.

I won’t thank you but I will congratulate you. You were committed and you were right. So congratulations.

This doesn’t even matter. In no reality will Bryce Young be gone if we lose this game, because of this poll. Or how we vote. And I won’t be hoping we lose. If we do somehow win it All I will bow down on my knees and apologize for doubting Bryce Young and all of his stans.

10th anniversary of 15-1, that would be great.

Ooohh I am a bad fan. Make it the Super Bowl instead of this week on that poll and after I quit laughing I will vote to win the game. And it isn‘t “don’t like” it is, he is third tier on a good day.

Nothing against KB but wonder how he would have done with this year’s team. I believe he had the easier path to those yards and TDs back there with that team and Cam. I do put stock into the one fewer game point, agreed. But there we are again, back to who is throwing him the ball. Guess I am saying, good job Tet. He sure looks to be a future beast. And not a diva.

Some guys want to blame him for being a yes man. You take a job with a boss, you are a yes man unless it something morally objectionable that is beyond reason. If it is a business matter, you a yes man until either you are given autonomy or leave. And you will even say yes to getting autonomy, for that matter. The pressure from Tepper to fix Bryce and the offense had to have been immense. Overbearing. That is the guy that fired Reich because, among other extreme expectations, he couldn’t fix Bryce’s footwork in a week. And couldn’t sit him. Everyone used Brees as a comp so I wouldn’t put it past him being told ‘do what they did for Brees then, just get it done’. There is your OL overkill. I think the same pressure led to those first two draft picks. Most don’t, but it is what I think. He got more rope year two, off of that OL being ‘fixed’. Had more time to prepare, a bit of clarity from a year on the job in his pocket, and did what appears to be a great job. Trending up.

I agree. I almost never have a strong feeling about these games any more. Especially after 8 years of ineptitude. And though it is somewhat better this year, we still finished 1-3 in games that were close to elimination games. Excluding the Seattle loss. Going in on a 2 game losing streak. Bryce Young is our QB no clue ever what you are gonna get from him. I just can’t pick us to win. I will be working and may not be able to see but a little of it, effing Saturday game. We embarrassed the Rams last time. Thinking I might not miss much, real good chance it gets ugly.