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If just looking at him and can’t see it maybe you could figure it out from how teams play us - they don’t respect his game. His footwork saps the velocity from an already below average arm and it hurts him. The margins shrink when the ball takes that extra tick to arrive on the longer throws. You could foresee this too, I mean come on. NFL defenders are not college defenders, the NFL is as fast as football gets. You have to beat those defenders. There were valid questions about whether he could, that ended up with bad answers.

It sure seems like it. I like it.

Many old guys know poo, that they didn’t know like, 30 years ago. Even if they knew a lot then. Insight into scenarios and such.

I did not notice that. I would have to watch but will take your word for it. Dave C was the new guy. They probably told him just watch us work lol.

I would be all for it but that is never going to happen. Tepper decreed it. Ron could run both and had as a DC so he went with it.

If Evero goes, Don will go, don’t you think? Sir Big Spur, if you think about it you can probably make a good guess. It does not look like Canales has rank over Evero to tell him who to play. Without overstepping. But Canales and Morgan have roster control. And Canales overstepped lol. That’s what I think. In general I don’t know how to evaluate the defense because they are the red headed stepchild here in the draft and FA 2022, 2023, 2024. They have been so neglected and so ‘underfunded! I can’t expect a lot. I know that maybe the players have been out of position a lot and that is coaching but aren’t getting the best brightest bulbs off the street. The saying I can explain it to you but I can’t understand it for you may be relevant So I just have a hard time being real judgemental given those things.

They were supposedly looking for football players and looking at production. As opposed to athletes. Looking for dawgs I really think Tepper meddled hard in the top of the 2024 draft and so that throws the value system out the window. This year I feel pretty good about the players we brought in, and the guys we picked on day three in 2024 yielded some dividends. Viewed through the lens of Tepper meddled round 1/2 and the later picks are pretty decent, and the 2025 yield looks strong, the narrative about shitty drafting may be dated. If you choose to separate the Tepper and the GM/HC picks it looks much better I don’t know if that scenario is accurate but I think it is reasonable to game it that way This with the misfit players drafted is timely. That is where continuity comes in. When you are changing coaches ever couple of years you get an abundance of players that can be ill suited. Plus it is hard on the players having to learn things and they have to think too much. I think we have seen that. I can’t say what we’d better do, not trying to turn it into that. But if we do not make the right decision on coaching and GM we will be doing it again in two years. At some point you know, you have to maybe stick with some people. I am not here to argue if those people are Dan and Dave just the concept. We have to have that.

The old show ‘Name That Tune’ I can name that song in 5 notes. I can fix the Panthers with two. Kidnap Tepper, get a real NFL QB. Arrow pointing up. Really, Tepper being gone would be a one note deal.

Nicole it is a good question.

Who knows. No injury. Probably to protect that valuable asset with the game lost. Except he has no value to speak of. So maybe just to get Andy some work.

They had to make a move to activate Coker didn’t they? Maybe he is ready.

I speculated about a power struggle over the D after reflecting on Canales saying he was pushing for the young guys to play and watching the next couple of weeks. If I were a coach and a subordinate defies me by playing a player I would cut the player and tell him okay now you have to play the young guys.

Re QBs, people here poo pooed Dart last year. I don’t recall who. He was taken 25th. Thatbisnwhy I raged at selling the farm to go to 1 and omg the rage exploded at their use of the pick. But that trade never should have been done

Yeah he is playing not to get hit. It showed in the preseason too He really must not like that stepping into the throw and paying the price to make the play thing very much

Seems pretty obvious on a macro scale that he put out the edict of save Bryce at all costs. Whatever it takes you do it. That explains the 2024 draft and FA. if in fact Bruce and dad lobbied Tepper for XL it goes micro. And makes a lot of sense. I knew or felt strongly that XL was a pick for the roster they had last year as opposed to long term I always felt that Brooks was a pick for Bryce because of the pass catching aptitude he displayed. And you have to remember he was supposed to be ready by camp. It was not a future pick either.

Reasonable. It would give fans reason to watch. Another thing, about the coach situation. We know we have Canales because no one else of any merit was touching David Tepper and Bryce Young. That’s a damn double whammy right there. Who could we get now? Reich was almost surely told he could get his QB but obviously did not. That has to be something that will factor, getting your own QB is all Tepper has to entice a new coach.

Makes perfect sense. Which is why I believe that was off the table for some reason. To the point I just now thought I wonder if Bryce lobbied Tepper for Andy. You get Canales working with a QB that can factor in the future, or you tread water another year with Andy who will be retired - he ain’t going anywhere else… It doesn’t make sense unless hands were tied. But nothing about Bryce Young ever made any sense. edit: PS the thought of Bryce lobbying for Andy made me think about his dad lobbying for XL. If dad wanted XL wouldn’t you infer that Bryce wanted XL? Extrapolate that one….

The camel’s back met the last straw. Is that an Athletic article? That would be Person, at least contributing probably but likely him. fuging Captain Obvious with that losing record quote. Man, I had Young off of my draft board because of his measureables and when it got really hot and heavy I looked at his video and he was still off my board. I can’t help but believe there were teams that felt the same.

Yeah that’s right. I forgot about that. I liked Sam, but before he played… What a move.

Lol those shoes were for him to wear. About a size 6

I don’t really know how that option thing works, and was unsure if it transferred with a trade unless we did it. Obviously your scenario a better option.

You are supposed to be able to tell from Bryce Young? It’s like giving a chef dog food and expecting a seafood dinner.

I would take too many words to say that. That’s about how I read it. As to that option year, if they were going to trade him, wouldn’t it be desirable to have him controlled for 2026 and ‘27? That would be the only reason I could not go into a canniption fit over it. I hope Canales is doing his whisperer thing with Hooker because they way people are complaining he won’t get a chance to work with anyone decent.

Yep that is exactly how that went. No deep threat. This whole thing with Bryce, we are supposed to know first hand what happens when they don’t respect the deep ball. It is so damned ignorant to intentionally put yourself in a situation like we had with Cam, with a player who has none of Cam’s physical advantages to boot. So it’s gonna be even tougher and you are supposed to smart enough to know that.

He did a pretty good one last year I think. He does watch the film, at least I think it was him that said you can’t give a good take without doing that and plenty of guys were not watching film before giving their takes. I might be mistaking him for a different analyst. Much better version is for sure a relative term.