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Chris Long: Bryce Young Went Toe To Toe With Patrick Mahomes
strato replied to Icege's topic in Carolina Panthers
Let's keep the hype down to 11. He doesn't have a stronger arm than Jake. That is just ridiculous on its face, regardless of who was slowing down for what on what day for what reason. -
Chris Long: Bryce Young Went Toe To Toe With Patrick Mahomes
strato replied to Icege's topic in Carolina Panthers
You said he had a better arm than Jake or some such nonsense. Damn, talking about herring. I thought that was beneath you, honestly. It isn't true. -
Lol. Good thanks for pointing this out.
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Chris Long: Bryce Young Went Toe To Toe With Patrick Mahomes
strato replied to Icege's topic in Carolina Panthers
That might accurate if you had accused me of being under the top. I gave him his large credit for standing in weeks ago, but reasonable is reasonable. -
It was mental alright.
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Go ahead and subtract the first two games, I think one of them he did absolutely nothing. It will look worse. But his first game with Dalton I think he got 122 yards or something.
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I'm sure he didn't want to be traded to the Panthers. Who would? Maybe a QB I guess. He fuged up by showing he wasn't about the team, or he would still be here. If he ran his routes like he was supposed to, he'd still be here. Couple more if/thens in play. He just, fuged it all up, and will be getting a prove it deal for a lot less money than he is even getting now, I bet.
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Chris Long: Bryce Young Went Toe To Toe With Patrick Mahomes
strato replied to Icege's topic in Carolina Panthers
Jake Delhomme didn't have to stand on his tippy toes to throw lol. Y'all stop with the totally over the top praise and I'll stop with the snapping you back to reality. Praise is fine, he earned it but this revisionist poo is revisionist. -
I think most of us have a horrible taste in our mouthes that he put there, and we want to make sure we don't end up with that for another long season. If people don't like that, tough. He has the rest of the year, at least as of today, to show the raised level of his passing game isn't temporary. People aren't denying it is much better, but let's see the proof for more than one game. Are we gonna be right back to 125 yards next week? It is a fair question.
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Sometimes the deal you don’t make is the BEST DEAL…. LOL @ Giants
strato replied to TheBigKat's topic in Carolina Panthers
Yeah that is highly accurate. I'm sure he did something decent but almost everywhere you look it was bad. I'm on board with judging Morgan for what happens under his authority, when it is his rep on the line with these decisions. They made the right decision on Burns this year, and Burns pushed them to it. For 5 mil less per season we might still have him, so I appreciate Burns for going the extra mile with the greed. -
Forget about Bryce, Dave Canales is who we should be talking about.
strato replied to Eazy-E's topic in Carolina Panthers
I understand all that. I understand totally that we were conditioned to accept less and be happy with it. If you want to remove wonders and use great job I'm cool with it. This is what I see, the track record of his roller coaster like dropoff notwithstanding: his mechanics are night and day. The ball is mostly coming out quicker. If he does not abandon the mechanics in panic he will be consistently better than he was. The ball will go more where he wants it, and get there quicker. After that I can't say because what else we have here is a guy who can't see over people but isn't quite fast enough to outrun modern NFL pass rushers for long. He has small margins and has to be 'on' or it won't work so well. He is not good at securing the ball when being hit. And stuff is getting on film and will be dissected. I suspect we saw his ceiling or really close to it, and he has to hit that every week. We'll see. -
Forget about Bryce, Dave Canales is who we should be talking about.
strato replied to Eazy-E's topic in Carolina Panthers
That poo was a wonder that I saw compared to last year my man. -
Yeah, the two games after Green Bay we were shutout. I wouldn't expect that again, but it is his track record. He can change it if he doesn't like it.
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Yeah in a way he called himself out. He has to now. But that psychology degree might be showing. He had to ball or die anyway, now he has more support behind him.
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Legette is funny lol. We have admitted, if you say poo like that when you are part of the problem... well you better not. He earned the right to use his voice. If he can walk it then no problem. edit: Maybe Bryce needs to talk with Hunt before the game and not after.
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Forget about Bryce, Dave Canales is who we should be talking about.
strato replied to Eazy-E's topic in Carolina Panthers
The reason I was positive about Canales wasn't for him to work with Young, it was what we could get out of the next guy. That he would find the right one and work him up. He has done wonders with Young and Young gets credit for doing the work too. I still want to give Canales an opportunity to work with better physical traits. -
I didn't feel confident. I was surprised to see the ball traveling farther than 12 yards downfield and being accurate and on time. Once. Then twice. Then a third time. Still surprised at the throw. But keep it up.
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Sometimes the deal you don’t make is the BEST DEAL…. LOL @ Giants
strato replied to TheBigKat's topic in Carolina Panthers
That's a good point. Self preservation is a great motivator. -
There are things he can do to fug it up, his margins are small. That sack or strip sack, once they hit the ground it is anybody's ball. For instance. He did do a good job with keeping defenders off the ball and by a nice margin but some were close. It is a game of inches at times. I usually hate watching him play, but I enjoyed watching this game almost as much as the Vegas game. So let's see that every week. Did you guys see new plays? Maybe that weren't on film? I thought I did. I hope we have plenty more because NFL eats up what you show them. Stuff could get a little harder when they get more film on some more things.
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Sometimes the deal you don’t make is the BEST DEAL…. LOL @ Giants
strato replied to TheBigKat's topic in Carolina Panthers
If he disagreed he wouldn't have made it public, from a subordinate position. Job security. Plus Fitterer is his friend. Suleiman, maybe he was right on the one thing people know about, but we don't know what went with or against in the many other meetings they surely had. -
Yeah, something like this. We need to get his understudy in the pipeline and when he is done, we won't be. So however long he goes, great. When junior overtakes him we move junior up and find a new understudy. It ain't that hard. edit: Travelle Wharton was really good for us, I think he was 3rd rounder.
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I understand everyone being happy but let's try not to turn it into another schoolgirl crush festival. No offense. It isn't slower WRs that cause wild overthrows. They have all kinds of practice. It is his mechanics keeping things under control that allows a more efficient conversion of energy, let's call it, into the throw, that we are seeing. He was doing it with horrible mechanics and needing to put 100% effort to get the ball that far. That totally fugs your accuracy. There is video of Mahomes and Carr on this site that I have linked with them throwing under control vs all out trying to get the most velocity on a radar gun. It shows exactly what I am saying. I didn't make it up. I have been telling y'all for a year at least. It really is all about the margins with Young and he has to be very attentive to his technique to get the most from what he has. He is doing that now and this is the new 'what he can do'. And this is it, there ain't no more. You decide if that's enough for you I guess. But you are noticing better ball flight and zip I am pretty sure, it comes from there. Again go look at the Buffalo drive in preseason and you will see that same thing you see lately. To do that stuff you have to be willing to stand tall come what may, sometimes. Hopefully you have protection to step up safely but the difference making happens when you stand in there and finish just ahead of a hit. ..... And btw, the straw that broke the camel's back when Tepper fired Reich, was because he couldn't fix it in a week. One of the last issues that I remember was about Young's footwork. You know, I guess it is normal that 10 weeks into the season someone just realized, or finally accepted, that Young had major fundamentals issues. It took them a lot longer to realize it isn't an overnight fix. And my issues with Young were specifically over this stuff. Major rehab job, you don't pay what we paid for that. Hopefully he is 'fixed' and it 'took' and he doesn't go back into his little safe space of the old mechanics like he did week 1. If he hangs with the new, this is what you are working wth now. We just saw his ceiling.
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Sometimes the deal you don’t make is the BEST DEAL…. LOL @ Giants
strato replied to TheBigKat's topic in Carolina Panthers
And then it leaks from somewhere. Bye bye leverage, have fun over at Brian Burns' house.