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It wasn’t played up at the time because there was so much Bryce vs Green Bay and Atlanta hopium, and also because Tepper was raging the whole year and grabbed a lot of the attention. We had so many people who blamed the excuses and were willing to give him (Bryce) a pass on the entire abomination of a season. I wasn’t one of those but I was raging at Tepper too.

And maybe pounded the drum too.

There isn’t an easy sure thing game on there outside of the division. 7 playoff teams if I counted right. Plus the division where if we played today we might have a tough time - two teams we were 1-3 against this year. Plus Baltimore.

Several factors there with an assortment of possible candidates Those two, way too stubborn and strong willed to control. And I think they had enough demand that they could ignore some possibilities that didn’t look great to them. Maybe, just maybe, no one wanted to try and run an offense with Bryce in the QB spot. I know there are a few that think Bryce is the man, stan, but that being a condition of employment would be a strong deterrent for a lot of people. edit: especially coming off of the insanity and failure that was 2023.

Just responding to this last part. Yep 100% and why it took them as long as it did is points off for the slow ones. It was so obvious. I guess the run game had to show they had to pay attention to it.

Surprised a little at the ultra high end names. I have the impression that PFF over grades Young based on watching some games and seeing the grades after. And am pretty sure they are the parents of the Big Time Throw stat. Which takes points off for me.

Geno doesn’t really excite me. At all. I am thinking young vet. Not someone who is hanging on, which he will be soon if he isn’t already. I guess if Canales is tight with him that might be something g we see, but not my choice.

It seems to me that Evero would have grown out of needing a mentor. 3 years as DC. Nothing against Dom, OG Panther, and I don’t begrudge him a gig and a chance to contribute, just sayin. The guy that needs a mentor is in the big office.

Going into this year, while I was opposed to it, I understood that Bryce would get the year to demonstrate his potential, talent, value. Myself, I don’t see how what he has put on record justifies an entire organization and fan base putting all their eggs in his basket. QBs around the league have proven themselves in half the time he has been given while he is still an enigma more or less. Some were taken high, Williams for example, others were drafted well below his position and for a much cheaper investment, and several have outshined him. He languishes in his meager progress zone, making incremental improvement that lags behind these others. Shough has lapped him in half a season. Williams has lapped him. Maye has lapped him. Others. Look at Stroud. That was a legit horrible team in 2022, with a defensive HC, that has made the playoffs each year he has played for them. And has also transitioned to a new OC, with little disruption. What is different with Young? I think we know. If we can know, they should also know. Astute people Have to see this. If they can’t look around and say hmmm ‘’why is this this way?” they are just not qualified to be making these kinds of decisions.

And start the whole thing over. Why wait?

Kind of like a credit card. Instant gratification now, pay later. And you Will pay.

Honestly, he has balls for being so radically conservative. No one wants to watch us run into a wall 2 times, dump off short of the sticks on 3rd, punt and play defense, but… he is minimizing the damage Bryce can do and keeping us in games longer than we reasonably would hang with a more opened up offense. He seems to understand the bottom line of Bryce. He only leans on him when there is no other option, or we are in an advantageous position to where something can possibly be exploited. It has worked a couple of times and we came away with a win no one expected. Even that flea flicker people went nuts over because it was in the red zone… I started thinking. We are pretty much in a red zone offense anywhere on the field 20 yards is a deep ball, etc. That is like most plays, if they execute it it can be a good play and if they don’t it is a shitty play. Okay it failed. But I would like to have seen what it looked like with decent execution.

As little faith as I have that the general idea of what you suggest as a plan, will be implemented… it is malfeasance not to try and upgrade from Young. I just won’t believe it will happen until see it.

Just remembering what people thought of our schedule the second half of the season, and I believe ‘brutal’ was the consensus. I am sick of a lot of his schtick too, but when I zoom out and look at all the variables, he isn’t as bad as the bigger critics claim. Sort of like, you are what your record says you are. Listening to some of you it’s like he took all this great poo and got two wins or something. He may be a shitty OC, but Bryce is a fuging millstone, a coach killer. A playbook diluter. I can stop there and justify a season with a new QB.

Off the top of my head you have 5 or 6 weeks to cherry pick things that make Bryce look good. And that is what you will keep doing and you will think you are winning. He is a booby prize, congratulations you win and you can have him.

Well, imagine that… If you took away Caleb’s throws that were great catches, and add all the missed catches and touchdowns called back or missed…. Anyhow we are seeing the difference, Williams in year two is panning out as much as could be hoped for. Year three, we have to play alternate reality games with stats to deflect criticism.

Nothing against Pete here, just would not have hired a dude of his age for that job.

What are rails for if not to run off now and then? I don’t begrudge Vick living his life afterwards. But he will always be tainted by that. Vick was HC at Norfolk State this year btw.

Stan on. I would wonder who took over your account if you didn’t. A dropped or missed catch is usually on the receiver but not always and it is subjective as hell. You are venturing into territory where when a WR bails him out on a bad throw or prevents an interception, we should take that away and award the incompletion and the pick. Same line of thinking.

I kind of want to say, that was before the dog scandal. Blank cut ties over that dog thing, I believe. Man, as a Panthers fan Vick was one of the all time villains, dogs or no dogs.

Vick bred and fought dogs. For gambling. Yeah, despicable in my opinion. Apparently it is a big cultural thing, like cockfighting in the white culture back in the day. But come on, Michael. No better than experimenting on them medically. Lower, in fact because there is no redeeming end goal. If you could accept any end as being redeeming, that is. I don’t. Cruel as hell. I haven’t painted Blank as a villain. He is a pretty good owner I guess. Seems to have a good heart.

Man, what a cesspool of stanning.

You could Almost feel bad for Blank over that SB collapse, if he hadn’t come down to the sidelines to party prematurely. Watching him come back down from his high as they pissed it away… despite my glee at watching that team digging their grave, I was embarrassed for him.

That’s a good one. I love the nod to history aspect. Jake and Smitty both could do it. Or maybe Mike Martz. He was really good for us in that game too.

How about, Cam plays QB and Bryce handles the drum? We can get a lighter mallet.