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It is better to pick through the rejects that have at least been trained to take a snap from under center. People acted like Bryce’s first year was everyone else, and fail to consider that if he were able to operate efficiently from under center that you get the benefit of play action and a running game. Which we proved the previous season we could operate pretty well using that. But no he couldn’t do that. So the adage that a young QB’s best friend is a good running game couldn’t be true for us. Off the table. He still doesn’t do play action very well.
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And it probably won’t be either. It all goes to the QB question and our future, long term, for me. Over whether we get the honor of being Cinderella one and done.
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I think in light of the timing of that OL upgrade I must overlook it. It wasn’t like the situation allowed a better planned upgrade that would involve developing players, at least according to ownership’s priority on making Bryce work NOW. They didn’t have time to build it the right way, and you have to overpay to get top guys on a 2-15 team. It wasn’t ideal, no. The Moton thing I look at in a vacuum. Apart from the interior guys. I have a vague notion of a ridiculous cap situation leading to the ridiculous extension. Got my speed throttled on the phone here and over the cap.com didn’t want to load so I didn’t look it up. Bit after watching Nijman in some games last year I would not (have) felt good at all about no Moton. This is all resulting from the urgency or impatience or whatever you call it around removing the excuses for Bryce. You would hope that with a more settled situation there the building and maintaining of the roster could be addressed using a less extreme approach.
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I agree it is more about the OL. If you happen to have a world beater with a great OL then that’s better obviously but you don’t need to have that. Capable and durable guys that can get to the second level with good blocking can be plenty.
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How many Qbs can you name better than Bryce Young?
strato replied to Jackson113.2's topic in Carolina Panthers
Depends what week it is. On very rare occasions it is maybe 7 or 8 tops but most weeks it is 20 to 25 ans some weeks it is about 30. -
You have to restock somehow. And you can’t pay everybody. By the time the WRs and QB are due for the big money you need to have a way figured that the OL can have some rookie contracts to offset that.
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To me it isn’t even about the playoffs. If things go well, maybe the playoffs happen but it isn’t the primary goal for me. Getting proof one way or the other on this QB is the biggest prize we could win. If we don’t get that, we have a bad offseason coming up.
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A question no one is asking about Bryce and The Panthers
strato replied to Day1PanthersFan's topic in Carolina Panthers
I don’t think no one was asking that, maybe you weren’t and it seemed that way to you. Plenty of people have pointed out that his good games are followed by bad ones, multiples. And how the team has been a week to week yo yo tbis year. Up down up down. In any event that is certainly the challenge this week. And is a challenge over these last 6 games for the QB in particular to show he can not go right back down to the bottom after a game where he looked like a real player. His track record to date is pretty much reverting to crap after delivering a game that would be worth the investment made in him and this offense. Can he break his pattern? We have sure been asking that. All that is what we are hoping gets answered definitively, this year. It desperately needs to be. -
What this suggests to me is how dumb it is to spend that much to draft a kid not ready for the league. If the rookie contract does nothing but make their learning years cheaper you aren’t getting the advantage you think you are there either.
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Poor ownership decisions dating to around 2019 Then the trade for Bryce Young was very costly and he so underperformed (IMO) that they were compelled to pump even more assets into putting players around him. OL to RB to WR - FA money and high draft picks, you name it. But offense was king and defense was an afterthought. For most of three years. Until we picked Scourton in the second this year there was nothing over a single 3rd round pick spent on tne defense since Jaycee Horn was taken in the first round - and he is on his second contract. Defense has been a black hole. That is the Cliff Notes version, or at least it is my Cliff Notes version.
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Does Bryce deserve credit for game-winning drives?
strato replied to TN05's topic in Carolina Panthers
Well the reason for the tight playbook is heavily debated. Without going into that I will just say we haven’t beat up on any top defenses so far, offensively. Atlanta looked mediocre at best. Being kind. They are our big victim. SF is supposed to be weak on defense, I think it will be interesting. -
Does Bryce deserve credit for game-winning drives?
strato replied to TN05's topic in Carolina Panthers
In a majority of the games if you take out the scripted drive - which the first few weeks didn’t amount to much at all half the time, there wasn’t a lot of meat on the bone. Even Sunday he had 130 and a TD in the first half, in his probably best game ever. His bad games were bad. This week will really be interesting. If he plays. -
BTW Brooks made his NFL debut November 24 last year. Very nearly 4 months later than the start of camp. If not 4 months - I didn’t look up camp dates but it is late July right?
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Plus Zavala will be playing, right? Two sacks right there.
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Because you have to see what you have. As it turned out, nothing. If they had waited there would be no Rico signing, probably. Then the surgical repair failed and we are screwed. This is why it had to be done - if he was deemed ready. Plus, I don’t think he was rushed back at all. At draft time he was said to be ready in camp, if not For camp. Hell when did they bring him back? Was it November?
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Bryce Young now leads the NFL in game-winning drives since his debut
strato replied to TN05's topic in Carolina Panthers
And some might say that because it invites misapplication, it is flawed. that is me and we will disagree on this one. -
Bryce Young now leads the NFL in game-winning drives since his debut
strato replied to TN05's topic in Carolina Panthers
It definitely needs more specificity than is baked in now. -
17 games is too much for one guy.
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Does Bryce deserve credit for game-winning drives?
strato replied to TN05's topic in Carolina Panthers
I am not making it Bryce specific. Haven’t been for a while now, once I understood the nuance of it. In fact the only time I have mentioned it in relation to Bryce this time around that I recall, is to show that another QB could get the same credit for that handoff scenario as Bryce did for his actual last possession on Sunday. Which is unfair. My point is it is a shitty indicator in general. -
Does Bryce deserve credit for game-winning drives?
strato replied to TN05's topic in Carolina Panthers
I used to think that stat meant something special. Turns out, a fraction of the time… a GWD is really some special thing It is about like when people say a fraction of this or that, but they actually mean a small fraction. 1/1 is technically a fraction. Handing off one time at 14.58 in the 4th quarter, then calling the kicker in… is technically a GWD. Woot. Call the HOF committee. -
Does Bryce deserve credit for game-winning drives?
strato replied to TN05's topic in Carolina Panthers
Passing chart had 3 over 20 I think. The Legette TD and another completion and an incompletion. All over 20 yards. An incompletion at 19 or maybe 20 yards. So you could technically probably say 4 throws 20 or more. That seems high to me compared to the norm. 45 throws and 10 YPA are both way high. -
That, and no 1st in ‘26 should get them in a nice spot to get a QB in 2027.
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I wouldn’t stop that if we were 0-11 I mean stop telling me about all that great food when I am a bachelor cooking hot dogs
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the 49ers are likely our worst matchup of the season....
strato replied to TheBigKat's topic in Carolina Panthers
It is a road game. We are on a road win streak. I agree we should have a shot because they have weaknesses but am also well aware of the week to week Jekyll Hyde factor slash yo yo effect, up down up down. If it were a 1pm game in Charlotte I’d feel better about it. This place has their team rankings. Stat wise. https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/team/san-francisco-49ers/stats
