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I think NO averages around 15 a game. Maybe. Course that was with Rattler mostly. So they barely beat their average. They have been giving up high 20s I think. Looked at it last week. The offense was the problem.

Tepper needs to hire George Costanza as special advisor to the owner.

They may be genius in their field. Can’t change a tire.

The Miami game they said the team, and Rico, saved Bryce’s job. At least they go with the way the wind is blowing.

Those guys are much better at reality than the Charlotte guys.

I have been around that and totally saw it too.

That is pretty much how I see it too. I think it was a condition of their employment.

I used to listen to them every day. Out in the boat fishing. When the Bryce homerism wouldn’t yield to the reality they started slamming texters that disagreed with them. Being derisive and mean spirited and the textor can’t respond publicly. That is when reached my fug you point with them.

Yeah I don’t think having a laugh and maybe bonding over the Rico fine is in itself detrimental. Not refocusing the players and getting back to work even harder is the offense here.

Yeah it is worse for the team that he isn’t the guy. What would be even worse is him having a stretch like last year where it wasn’t definitive but fooled enough people and they committed even more money and years. Maybe it is like learning your fiancé is unfaithful. Your heart is broken but at least you didn’t get married and then find out. I feel a little like the friend that had to tell my pal his fiancé is no good.

I was wrong on Bsket, didn’t want him. Right on Darnold. Wanted to keep him over trading up. Wanted to pick up Jones last year but didn’t really have conviction, it was more wanting to get away from Bryce and thought he was worth the roster spot to see what he had. I thought he and Bryce could compete for the job.

Yes they did but I don’t know what they were thinking. If you are familiar with the term mass formation, it was almost like that. They took people’s brains over. Lots of guys here looked and saw the same thing I did. I ain’t special I challenge anyone to rationally explain it. Made no sense.

Bumping this back up just to say for the first time I watched the team produced review with Kristen Balboni hosting TD and Stew. whixh always love to see them but don’t watch it I enjoyed it which surprised me. TD in particular got on the offense. Players and coaches. I didn’t expect that but did respect it.

I would never have traded up like that in the first place. But once that was done Stroud was the clear choice. If I were going to gamble like that, he was the horse. I am not fond of gambling like that and would have missed him in the first place. Just pointing out the obvious. I have never even watched Dart play and I hear the downsides. I am not pumping him per se. Point is he was close to an XL level investment and that is a massive difference in risk. That is where I want to live as opposed to trying to move into the top two picks type of approach. I know if we do this right we can upgrade without breaking everything else.

It is a big time indictment on ownership. Along with the other indictments. But Bryce was the major offense.

And sluggish I thought I didn’t see much of him. It was kind of…. Next. it is funny,, almost every time I say that I want the assets, all the tools, I am told about the guys with the tools that don’t have all the goods to go with them. You still have to have the tools. Of course there is more to it.

I know someone would sign him. They wouldn’t play him and he might not even be active. So fwiw do You think he could be fixed? Fixed implies that he is broken. I see it as this is what he is. He is not broken, just not suited for the application. of course I am a casual or so I am told and clueless. Can’t trust my eyes. I think the odds of him turning it on and keeping it on at a high level are way against that happening. People have been telling me I am wrong for 2.5 years and as of now it has yet to be born out. No matter what they put around him.

It is due diligence basically. Drudgery but to be thorough you have to give him the season. We have stomached it this long, what’s another few games to be 100% certain? Thwy have a ton invested and the only thing worse than being embarrassed by being wrong about him being good is being wrong about him being bad and him showing you up with another team. So I see that happening? No. But it isn’t my reputation.

I understand your feelings. But one of them owns the team and must be shown not told. Apparently.

If we let him go tomorrow what roster would he be on that would play him? He is bad.

Best case for me is he stinks it up, except the last game where he plays great. They sell his ass to someone. edit: okay that is not right. Best case is he turns it on this week and doesn’t turn it off ever again. If you believ that could happen then, okay. I just don’t see it and don’t want people to be fooled again, and we have a Groundhog Day thing.

Where did you get that nugget? I mean, was it published or did you get it through the grapevine.

They can’t keep padding his grades when he is that bad. They have to go with it or lose credibility.

I’ll concede that. That is sort of my red line. Any pro coach, evaluator, etc, that believed in that guy is blind afaic. But in Canales’ position, the player needs to believe that Canales is with him. Whether Canales himself believes or not.

You can Canales and you break any continuity, again. It is worth waiting a year too long, to try and keep that IMO. Especially when all he has been ‘given’ to work with is a bust that most people knew was busting no matter what. I don’t believe any coach can transform a player that is physically overwhelmed. And Bryce is physically overwhelmed.