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He was a running back and didn’t know nothin’ about birthin no quarterbacks when he was hired here. As OC. Yeah I didn’t get that but he has been learning apparently. Getting his knowledge together by apprenticing in the different roles and trying to get some depth to his game. I wasn’t really feeling hiring a RB guy for OC when we had just drafted a QB at 1.1. And wasn’t about him being the play caller. But he has kept plugging away. Good luck to him.

And I think that’s fair. Or the way you want it. It is a cumulative endeavor. Miss on one, that is fine if you hit on another. Even if it is in a later round.

That seems like truth, but still. No drops is no drops. Like I said elsewhere call Vegas let’s get a pool for when he will drop a ball.

I think people are missing the context of what was behind the first two picks of 2024. Have argued it a fair amount and and been accused of pretzel logic/mental gymnastics to defend Morgan. I don’t see it that way and if another person were in Morgan’s place and did it I would think the same thing. Not gonna re argue it here, but I am in agreement with you on the improvement and growth sentiment.

I like Eager where he is. I like Tillis where he is. Don’t want to change it. At this point in time.

I probably don’t know what the bad is. Wharton? I think he was influential in that decision. Not my favorite. But they aren’t perfect and they are not gonna be perfect.

We got him from KC. One of the gold standard orgs. I like him and don’t want to lose him. Especially inside the division. PS I am not a Morgan basher. I am one that does not blame him for drafting Young. I hope he rewards me with a new QB soon or I might change up.

Man I hate the rollouts generally because the defense can only cover one side. And then we have the lack of downfield attempts and everyone cheats up because we don’t keep them honest. Margins are thin enough without cutting them down yourself.

If I were making that statement I would concede that if he does everything perfect with his mechanics he can make pretty capable throws. But his mechanics are horrible. And if he doesn’t do everything right, it is trouble. And he doesn’t do everything right in a repeatable fashion. It is what Warner was saying, he doesn’t have room to not maximize his potential via using consistent mechanics. His are a huge mess still after three seasons. Enough.

Oh yeah, I am with you there. I spent too much time attempting to explain that poo to the caravan of stans that pass through town, and need some teaching aids for them. When this first started one of the first things I tried to hip them to was, hey look at that arm. Look at that ball flight and speed and time in the air in particular, and imagine how fast an NFL corner can close ground. Like, you guys don’t think that could be an issue for him throwing to the boundaries? Straight down the field too but for sure on the flatter angles it gives them just that little bit of extra time. And they are drafted or evaluated to be drafted off of differences of hundredths of a second. It is a big deal.

I got irritated with Duncan over what I felt was too much fanning. Which, that’s what a lot of people are about and maybe it helps his numbers. I don’t know. I had to duck out though. I watched him a good bit last year. PS, also, there are some other ones that are pretty good but just don’t have time or the want to spend time making the rounds to all these sources. The Advice guy serves my needs and like you said he is consistent.

I will check in with him too pretty frequently. I don’t always agree with him but he has good video presentations and isn’t a total Bryce Stan like some of the other regulars.

I have noticed that, occasionally, he will not get the ball to the sticks on 3rd. He checks it down.

I have posted this video before and referenced it in the Bryce arm strength wars. I brought it up with the alleged pff guy that called us casuals and other names. And about a year prior I posted it proposing the same theory. Noteworthy is they throw with varying degrees of effort. The sailing throws come with max effort. I compare it to baseball pitchers. They generally do not throw 100% effort, they take some off and it helps their accuracy. As you can see, when those guys go all out fastball the football sails. They generally miss high. When people were saying Bryce has such a great arm “look he overthrows deep balls”, well maybe he is trying as hard as he can and misses high, just like these guys. Where they can take a little off and still get plenty of zip, I don’t think he has much to take off the throw and still have it zipping and zinging. Obviously on throws like what beat the Rams velocity isn’t the critical factor, placement and touch to get that are the demands on the throw. But when he needs the velocity he doesn’t have as much effort to spare as the big boys with the strong arms. It makes total sense to me.

I was just getting ready to check how many vacancies. Agents are not the most reliable sources for facts of this nature.

I gave him pie for that back half of the post the late throws etc. Didnkt really even think about the velocity numbers that much. But didn’t think it sounded right.

I should have asked, where did you get those velocity numbers? I am interested in the topic. I don’t know from scouting reports but are you talking pre draft when they were praising him and basically lying about how good he was gonna be and he was worthy of being the 1.1? mostly interested in the velocity receipts though.

I really do wish we could get a radar gun reading off of Bryce because I suspect it is a good 5-10% lower than average. I also bet that maybe it is much better with the proper footwork and throwing mechanics than it is with his little tippy toe poo.

I try to like listening to that guy. Does he think Canales doesn’t know and didn’t address this day one? Remember 2.7 seconds, 123 plant throw? That was one of the first things he said. If you watched for this stuff year two and of course I did, being aware of Young’s issues, you saw the difference in preseason. Just the one game one drive vs Buffalo but it was there. You can still find that probably. And I ranted about it opening day vs NO that year, Bryce had the footwork for the few drops he made in the 1st qtr. I forget whether it was very end of that qtr of very beginning of the 2nd, it was gone and the old habits were in place. This poo isn’t new, where has he been? edit: and I heard him say that all the small QBs do that tippy toe stuff? Can that possibly be true? I guess it could be as I have never analyzed another shrimp’s footwork. But I am very doubtful.

Some of us are. I am one of those grinches that looks at it like, we had 4 games of must win and control our destiny and all that, and went 1-3. We earned nothing. Atlanta won our title for us. Damn, Harbaugh. Who they hiring?

They must have had relatives…

Coker has never dropped a pass? poo, call Vegas.

This was always so funny to me. Rookie year, people kept on the the Peyton Manning had a shitty rookie year. So did… insert another all pro, same thing. They never said well Jamarcus had a shitty rookie year. Heath Schuler. Clausen. A litany of busts also had shitty rookie years. I mean, only great QBs had shitty rookie seasons, so Bryce’s shitty season means nothing. And when we get to the comparisons now….

I watched. Meh. He seems pretty entrenched. Knows what is best for himself. He thinks. He is a good guy, me not being a fan of his QBing I don’t want to humanize him too much because I could go soft. As long as his play is gonna be an issue for me, he has to remain a figure on my TV screen

Can’t edit that, but I admit I have biases galore, especially against short small QBs. Biases are positive too. In nature. Pos/neg, they go both ways.