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Tell the rest of these fine folks then. I mean, surely you are able to articulate his strengths.

Please list a few, NFL level strengths. On field playing QB stuff not oh he is really smart or really has a great attitude, not that stuff. And nothing about what he did in college against college athletes. What does he do well in the NFL? So I know.

Well we are in state of blackout as far as learning anything. And that will likely continue through preseason just like last year. What we learn had better be a lot different. Or else lol.

It is also really hard to change things. Which is why I was really skeptical about his mechanics and such being reworked by the staff. I could help, more likely is a huge can of worms.

I doggone remember plenty. That kind of arm, on a all timer or even like, a 12 year journeyman, those guys are more equipped to work with the limitation. It has to be about the scheme with Young. System. Whatever you call it. Custom designed.

Older QBs surviving playing well after they have lost their fastball is an excellent point. They have a career of experience and could do things with Young’s arm that he can’t do. I think it is maybe not apples to apples.

His entire contract is basically 90% guaranteed he got a 24 mil signing bonus and a similar prorated amount. You could save a a few million roster bonus, for '25 and '26. If he is horrible draft someone. Make them beat him out. He can be #2 for ’25 before the season is over. Maybe before camp. If he’s great in ‘24 then no problem. (I’d be scouting QBs right now).

Is that THE Jeff Davidson?

Toddler or not, average height or not, he will look pretty ridiculous to me standing out there when they give people those huge padded helmets. I really would like to just fast forward a year or two.

Oh boy a floor of 25th best QB. Williams better really really suck.

No you don’t want him musclebound. Lower body stuff would help him.

It has Tepper’s scent all over it. I can’t see an NFL coach signing off on giving up his 1sr WR and that draft pickage doing all that and you pick Young.

I hear that. No snaps. How can you tell? OTOH Young, off of his rookie season, was rated behind guys with no snaps.

Only speaking physical aspects, CRA.

Bryce is a lesser Wilson. In almost every physical aspect. Size, elusiveness, arm strength, all kind of take second to what Wilson had in those days. But Wilson and Seattle are the closest comp for me and I agree it’s jump ball time. Just roll that way. Bryce is slippery a little and I think he gets lost behind the big people and I have seen him get to the stick a couple of times. But he isn’t that fast and gets run down pretty often going lateral. As far as the run game, it can make things so easy if it is really good. If Penny is healthy he’s pretty good.

I definitely felt that way about it. The field gets compressed, the coverage cheats with impunity, all that fun stuff. Which we saw. OL should be majorly better if healthy to start the year. Give LOT over there some help from a TE or RB if you have to. He was beat like a drum last year.

Low AF = LAF = Me ROTFLMAO over the futility and incompetence of the Tepper sports organization, until I remember other people’s feelings. Oops.

I get a lot of that but there is work that can be done and then judge it. Where did people rate it last year? Just sayin’, most did not say 2-15. I was worried about a couple of areas on the defense last year and then they got killed with injuries. I expected a lot worse. Which gives me some confidence in Evero (and Dom) being able to keep them together. edit: I mean keeping the performance floor up as a group, despite handicaps in whatever position groups.

I am a huge Engram fan, just from one game I won’t waste time with it. If we can get that? Hell yes.

A Prius is okay on a lot of shorter passes but deeper it is like Bryce needs to hit a 7 iron and CJ a 9. Advantage: not Bryce. I know, mixed metaphors... That’s why minus an S2 test of course, I’d always take the true no doubt NFL thrower for the job of NFL QB. It is so simple sometimes, why do people talk themselves into this stuff? There was no question I had about Stroud and his arm ability. Very good (conservatively). Anyhow the force of gravity plays. Given two identical balls, gravity is grabbing the slower ball sooner and harder. It is probably a graduated thing, I went to music school not math school. It’s something we see and instinctively know but it takes a scholar to explain why it did that.

I don’t know that they didn’t draft CJ because he could run the offense they wanted to run. And sure they are gonna do what they can to accommodate his tendencies and preferences. I don’t know what to say about why someone would take Bryce Young and not think they would need to make some pretty large concessions to his skill set. Canales better design his playbook around this QB, otherwise no one has a chance. I am really curious to see the approach and how the downfield game is integrated into Young’s book.

We definitely have guys we can choose to be optimistic about. Brown is a big piece going forward.

The leaving his hand velocity, is that what we are looking at? I mean it isn’t hitting the target at the velocity it leaves the hand. Which is what I see, is lots of wobbly at the end, just don’t drive it home with that authority. If y’all see something else, well we are all going to be treated to the truth in a few months. And I’m not denying he could win some games and move the offense, with everything set up for HIM. But I have so little faith in that plan long term.

Still, I enjoyed its meager rewards compared to the reality of 2023, I promise you that. Better than Baker’s first two games that year too. And the year before and the year....

That was the best football we have seen for literally, years.