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Didn't Sanders leave the last game with a lower leg/ankle issue?

There is something off in their valuation when Coker grades higher than Chuba. Production needs to count somehow.

You will never get an argument from me defending using future picks and trading up. The absolute worst thing you can do in my book is trade future picks and that goes 1000 times for a 1st. I won't complain about a 6th or 7th that much but keep your fuging hands off of the major assets. We were burned so bad by this Bryce insanity that it is easy to extend the anti taking a QB high to a single pick. Even every single pick in the 2023 draft isn't as bad as what was done. I don't think the setback from a miss is really that damaging if it is a single pick lost no matter how high it might be.

Europe has the group mentality. USA has always had the individual elevated to top status. Until lately. But anyway big group chants aren’t part of the thing. Seems like we do simplistic music riffs - like that 7 nation army thing I can’t stand lol.

I mean, Flacco is more 'over' than Dalton seems to me I just wouldn't mess with him. And if Bryce is the starter in 2025, well.... let's just say that at that point I wouldn't care what they thought about QBs. edit: as far as setting things back... well that's been done already. Nothing is fixed there, and you are back to square one. If you do it right the time is minimal and well spent.

I guess bottom line is we need to give Canales a shot at His QB. However they find it. Ideally we would sign an undervalued vet that Canales knows what he is getting, and start looking hard for one we can grab at good value and groom. And for me it is okay to burn a pick on a miss just don't cripple your future. Hitting on your other picks should allow for a long shot every so often.

Yeah I said that earlier all or most of these guys are broadcasting or doing the little Huddle show and stuff like that, they are affiliated this season. I think Cam went in using the ESPN tack because it stuck it to Tepper and didn't criticize a player and that worked for him. Plus he ended up working for ESPN.....

We have different people in place to do that now, but people don't seem to recognize that. I don't much care where they come from but this taking the third best QB top five in the draft over valuation because of the position, yeah we don't need to participate in that. I build up an imaginary scenario where we can trade out of that position not too far back and get the defensive stud we want while having ammo to trade back into the late 1st if a QB falls. That we want.

I'll be gone before then.

I've said plenty before about we have shorted the defense, all about it. But I'd like to incorporate non first round QB into the thinking. If there is one that could make sense we need to try. Building up the team is what allowed Jake to happen. So in favor of it. Jake was pretty 'league average' outside of his spirit and took us a long way.

Well, I hate to side with Tepper or sound like it because I really wish he were not here, but if you take the most current thing in isolation, Cam was very critical of the organization over the Bryce benching. Defended Bryce with the same criticism that came from the ESPN bunch. That doesn't get you free trips to hang out with the team. So there is something that needs fixing.

That is in the context of joining a team to play football. . This has turned into a discussion of specifically why Cam and the organization have issues, not as much why he wasn't in Germany when the other ex players were. Which seems to possibly have a practical explanation. Personally - when he put the blame on the organization in defense of Bryce and it isn't Bryce's fault he showed me something. Not sure what, but it was some sort of agenda.

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It is football, still. You control the LOS, both sides, you win that game most of the time. Jenkins, we took so long to replace him. Way too long. Gettleman won me over big with his first draft. But he is another story.

NFL is too cheap to make refs full time. I can't decide if that is good or bad.

Division game.

In the spotlight stealer sense, is how I took it..

That's some fickle poo. Last year he was the man. This year, a lot of injuries it sounds like, some struggles, he sucks.

Let me ask, because I haven't taken the time to learn everything about this: Aren't these ex players in question involved with the team this season? TD is on Panthers Huddle, Jake does the broadcasts, etc etc. I don't know who does what but it mostly looks like is the legend types that are visible at team functions, on the payroll, and so on. Cam is trying to fry bigger fish and for whatever reason isn't involved. Without getting into the 'whys' of the Cam/Panthers discord, this doesn't look like some sort of pointed exclusion. Molehill or mountain? Leaning molehill.

I was being straight, I had never considered that he was so small they wouldn’t sneak it with him, until it happened.

We’ll find one.

I didn’t know about the sneak but this other stuff we were saying for why you don’t take him.

If you watch enough you see the less obvious ways the refs can call games to engineer outcomes. Throwing flags, or maybe more importantly, not throwing them. Picking up flags. Not blowing whistles. Blowing whistles. Play clocks even. When to start the clock. Stop it. Lag a little here, anticipate a little there, it adds up benefitting one side hurting the other. (I think the Panthers are the perfect team for the Chiefs to have a fluke loss against, as far as it goes. If we beat them maybe look closer.)

There wasn't anything stacked or whatever about the 2023 class. One guy. That we were supposed to take but someone just had to learn a lesson.

He is better now on the short drops which is why they are being called I think - because they limit him to the 1 2 3 plant ball is out - no time to think. Thanks about as far as it has gotten. And you are right they are not really right. But at least they aren’t that really wrong crap he does when left to take a deeper drop. Some of those 10 and 15 yard throws are pretty good, I think that is his limit though. Slightly better velocity when the form is correct. But he is bumping up against that ceiling already, there isn’t much more to see I don’t think.