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According to the trade value chart I looked at 51 is 390. 100 gets you to 41. Even ahead of NO. 19 is worth 875. We could pick up 95 points going from 19 to just 22. Math isn’t my strong point but that says, think again. https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart.asp Happy to consult another chart I know they vary.

Well yeah I am saying that for all the rants about it and begging to to be delivered from this poo, that I have done, the present situation doesn’t have the urgency compared to our other issues. We will Not be replacing him this year. So let’s be practical and use our draft assets to get level off of this Icky thing. The center thing. This ILB thing. Hell even as anti as I am towards giving him yet more weapons, I recognize the value of a complimentary speed WR. We don’t know about Brooks so need to cover RB past Etienne. We really need a power back. IMO. And so on with 2 or 3 other positions. Like I don’t even think a 5th should be used to draft a QB. Absent some crazy poo happening.

Maybe I should have used a different word and saved that for me. I want someone that has something impressive about them. Someone that has potential to supplant a guy who is producing 25th best type of numbers. 22nd, 27th all that bottom third neighborhood. I don’t know where that will come from it just can’t be from even a 4th round pick this year IMO. Unless FA is crazy productive. I’ll give Bryce a better than bottom rating for his playoff game. Well above low twenties. But at least half of his games were bottom third level. Probably 2/3 to 3/4 of them were.

I intended token to apply to his rookie year. Just beat Somebody out. Call it a competition. I hated that he was just handed the job I thought it set a bad precedent. I think we’re fairly aligned otherwise.

Have listened to a few too, and they are kind of running together. I just hesitate to have confidence in a 3rd or 4th round rookie starting at C.

It was bad enough that an all time bad QB performance was excused by it. I think they will address C adequately, and am more worried about LOT.

Who calls it a strong C draft? I heard the opposite so curious. I can’t cite a source and you don’t have t just asking if there is one or if that is your opinion. I do think that if teams get Mayes and stick him in between weak guards they may regret it. And think ours will benefit a guy.

Technically Young was 8-8 regular season. 8-9 overall. List games he carried the team please. I’ll give him a couple. Top of my head… Yardage record vs Atlanta, played well vs Dallas. IIRC, 4 qtrs of good play which was almost a career 1st. Some spurts in the second half - vs LA Rams comes to mind. Played well in the WC game. Whole team did. Failed at the end. Laid a lot of eggs too. You don’t get a great record after a loss unless you have a lot of losses. Jags, Cards - sorry most of that 2nd half was Cards prevent (like we use to do in 2015 - go up big fast and slack off let them back in, have to turn it on again at the end) Jets Saints Saints 9ers Seahawks On the fence Re Green Bay due to the wind and the strategy employed but he was not great there.

Well, we will see. I would almost guarantee he will not be signing with the Panthers. Opinion. For discussion, what impressive vets? Cousins? Rodgers? People would have to trade for Mac Jones. Daniel Jones… Achilles? That is a scary thing. I read some speculation on Stroud maybe moving on because Houston loves their backup. Long shot. Bears holding onto Bagent, Johnson loves him. Tua for a starting job somewhere? I’d rather try Willis. Surely I have missed a couple of guys. There is talk about David Carr coming back.

That would be the definition of pushing Young. Which I have thought we have needed to do since day one. I wanted him to have to beat someone out. Even a token guy, just beat someone out and give the appearance you earned the job.

It isn’t my money and I want ‘that guy’ at LB again. So I won’t complain unless he gets paid and sucks. my big things this year are LOT and T in general, and ILB. C is close behind. def agree with your first paragraph in particular, Bear Hands.

Lol well here we go again. Mine lasted maybe a year and I found out I was the other man lol. It was like when these guys have two families. I never snuck around, had no idea. Can’t trust HR. I wasn’t looking at any future settling down in those years or it might have really messed me up. The real loss was ironically I had decided to try and be faithful in this relationship because I had not been that guy in the past… and turned down a few really nice opportunities. I can’t tell you the amount of willpower in the moment that took. Lol my timing sucks sometimes.

I made a promise to myself and kept it… figured if Bryce got no blame for his horrendous year one it was fair for all. Free year one for Dan and Canales. Learning on the job year. Then on the clock. So I never stressed too much over their errors in year one. This will be a big year for both of them.

wow lol. I wasn’t a frequent visitor during all the Fitterer years but I remember him arguing for Gettleman at the mention of GM (didn’t even need to say his name), even after he was gone. Someone said he was kicked off. Suspended, banned… I missed whatever drama led to that.

Well, we’ve been, or I should say Bryce has been, real lucky with the injury thing. We had better put something behind him. Edit: also, I guess my point was WIllis will be able to get, at minimum, assurances of an open competition. I don’t think he needs to settle for less.

I didn’t miss much then did I? I’ll tell you though, some of my jobs, I probably could have used them with some shitty bosses. or a union rep.

I dated a girl from HR in the ‘80s. Had no idea what it was even after she tried to explain it to me lol. I fired a guy once that had had two major label record deals. Lol. it was a strange feeling. I know a guy who has been in that position and done the same thing to a player in a band I worshipped. Still love them. You would know them. It was from a side thing not that band. He told me the story about it though. The guy in my story was great. Still is. He was just a bit redundant after they cut our pay at a full time job and had irritated me over something at the time so I kept his counterpart.

Well, I have counted him out. He is out of our financial league. We are not in the mode of overtly challenging Bryce and he is going to, at the minimum, get assurances of competing for the starting job. And more money than what I think we have in mind. Would I personally do it and have an open competition? Been advocating for that since Bryce came here. He never had to beat anyone out, and talking about my code in the the other thread? I like having a code for starting jobs too. Competition. edit: I am sure there are other suitable potential destinations but Minnesota stands out to me as a good spot for him. Same division, possibly hot seat coach due to QB questions, good roster overall.

Yeah I haven’t looked deeply at it either. There isn’t much in the way of obvious diamonds in the rough among the usual listed suspects. Past Mac Jones and Daniel Jones, a bunch of meh. And I am not in on either. Daniel Jones was gonna be a bargain last year.

I get that, and it is part of todays world. I have never had to deal with HRs being a self employed or hired by another independent self employed type. Even when I worked for corporate entities, it was independent contractor. Dealt with one guy. I respect tell me to my face. In person not over the phone or in a text. (Any business of that type I talk, I go the extra mile to do it face to face). It’s just my code.

He made it easy for me One of those songs that writes itself.

My radar is up on Tua if released because Bevell was just there. I am not rooting for it, just observing. I see no path for Murray and I am not sure I want there to be. call me crazy but Levis still intrigues me. The big problem with him was the back breaking totally boneheaded play, after showing pretty well for 3 quarters. He has size, mobility, and a great arm. If he could be broken of that you might have something. Plus we have become pretty adept at hiding flaws. I am not thinking he is getting that 5th year picked up lol. He could be had cheap. Maybe even in a player swap.

Yeah that is true. And maybe a two year defacto commitment would cover us if we drafted and developed a couple in the next couple of years. If this guy is the prize of the LB class he won’t have to settle for a glorified prove it deal. edit: as much as I want That Guy we are in a position where a no doubt starter level player would be a big improvement. So maybe we don’t have to have the big dog.

That’s definitely possible. I just hold to traditional job and feel like no matter how distasteful you may find the task, it falls to you as the coach to at least go through the motions. I think he texted him. I hate that.

I would feel warm inside if they actually addressed the QB position. At the same time let’s be realistic, they are starting Bryce. Spending too much draft capital on a backup can get in line behind more pressing needs.