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See the player has not been up in here insulting people that disagree with him. You have. I don’t hate you I am sure you have some good qualities but this personalizing disagreement over a player, I have had enough of it. The leaving the poo thing on someone’s post and shading people for speaking about a player - not speaking about you but a player, and you make it personal. You are by far not the only one but you have been the flag bearer for that stuff lately. Put me on ignore.

I am kind of the opposite. I mean he did this. He knows he did it. He isn’t totally an idiot, not close. It is his ego doing this and maybe it getting smacked down by the results of his meddling will embarrass him enough that he will leave it to the football people he overpays to make these judgements. But that is probably a fantasy

I am sick of being accused of hating a player because I think he sucks on tbe field and is bad for the team. I could accuse him of hating us because he destroys the thing we love, it seems anything is okay to label as hate. What I hate is the bullshit that from people giving us grief for having a different opinion about a player. So we must hate them them? Look to yourself. You are the one attacking people. going around like juvenile shitting on peoples posts because they say something contrary to your opinion. I dislike your pettiness so much at this point I don’t even read your analysis. You are so ducking petty I bet you probably like that I don’t.

I guess it isn’t news to me so it doesn’t have the impact it would if I were just figuring that out. I thought it was just obvious that Evero was given his domain and we had a defacto separation of church and state so to speak. Canales’ words and actions seem to confirm that. As Mint Street Turns so go the days of our lives. However that goes.

My first reaction was “that’s true” but I think the masses are finally seeing the light on Bruce and we are coming out of it.

I view it like Canales grew at least one ball, so I like it. It is an assertion of his intention to go down swinging.

I don’t know. I think this is a thing where Tepper thinks more is more and opened the wallet because he could. I don’t think Dom does much probably a sounding board. But that is pure speculation I have no way to know. I do have a negative view on Moire because of that backstabbing with Reich. The picking of Bryce Young, he was here for it and an offensive guy and had a voice in it.

I don’t even know WTF Caldwell does. I know Dom came with Evero.

Okay. I’m not really invested in either.I love Dom just from the old days. Personally I don’t think I would single out Evero for firing unless I was keeping Canales. Not keeping Canales you just fire them all at once. And probably not in season. If I was keeping Canales I’d give him his own DC - as I would for any coach.

That isn’t the context I meant. Evero will already know all the concepts and XO stuff. He doesn’t need Dom for that. And I am not even saying he needs him. Just that Dom has seen it all. He probably has perspective on things that Evero is running into for time to time. that could be useful to Evero. like what to do if he gets in a power struggle with the HC lol.

I don’t see it as a bad look for us. Bad look for DJ. Every team misses on draft picks he got a 3rd year so meh in that context. It happens. I think we have another one in Wallace unfortunately. Maybe not but he needs that light to come on, now. I love it actually but I might be wrong about why I love it. I think he was cut as a message to Evero. I hope he was told, I can cut another one if you want me to. And I will unless you play the young guys.

Brees wasn’t 6’4” otherwise he looks like a QB. Mayfield is about his size. Thise guys are the edge of the envelope, where I look at a guy and have questions. Size wise they are the Southern borderline. Don’t cross it. Bro you can keep Murray. I will be good if a Murray slips through the cracks because of my higher bar. Outlier and not really that good a pro. At all. I agree he has tools. Fast elusive and a cannon. But I play the odds when it comes to this stuff. And Wilson was a third rounder and honestly I never thought he was that good. (Jump balls and a killer running attack and a killer D, he had success). Not so much since…(but he worked out great for a third round investment. That’s how you do it.Also, the context here is 1st round high pick that’s where I am at with it).

To even be considered, the guy must look like an NFL QB. What part of that is so hard to understand for these people?

Yeah. I came to understand that even if we could somehow scheme up some wins with Young, and we probably could… I don’t like watching that brand of ball.

Pretty horrible. Some is laughable. 7th round 2024 we did trade that guy for Mike Jackson.

I think he was drafting to a role he needed filled that year. With pressure on to get XL if possible. WR coaching background tells me maybe he knew where they should be ranked. McMillan will be his best work.

If just looking at him and can’t see it maybe you could figure it out from how teams play us - they don’t respect his game. His footwork saps the velocity from an already below average arm and it hurts him. The margins shrink when the ball takes that extra tick to arrive on the longer throws. You could foresee this too, I mean come on. NFL defenders are not college defenders, the NFL is as fast as football gets. You have to beat those defenders. There were valid questions about whether he could, that ended up with bad answers.

It sure seems like it. I like it.

Many old guys know poo, that they didn’t know like, 30 years ago. Even if they knew a lot then. Insight into scenarios and such.

I did not notice that. I would have to watch but will take your word for it. Dave C was the new guy. They probably told him just watch us work lol.

I would be all for it but that is never going to happen. Tepper decreed it. Ron could run both and had as a DC so he went with it.

If Evero goes, Don will go, don’t you think? Sir Big Spur, if you think about it you can probably make a good guess. It does not look like Canales has rank over Evero to tell him who to play. Without overstepping. But Canales and Morgan have roster control. And Canales overstepped lol. That’s what I think. In general I don’t know how to evaluate the defense because they are the red headed stepchild here in the draft and FA 2022, 2023, 2024. They have been so neglected and so ‘underfunded! I can’t expect a lot. I know that maybe the players have been out of position a lot and that is coaching but aren’t getting the best brightest bulbs off the street. The saying I can explain it to you but I can’t understand it for you may be relevant So I just have a hard time being real judgemental given those things.

They were supposedly looking for football players and looking at production. As opposed to athletes. Looking for dawgs I really think Tepper meddled hard in the top of the 2024 draft and so that throws the value system out the window. This year I feel pretty good about the players we brought in, and the guys we picked on day three in 2024 yielded some dividends. Viewed through the lens of Tepper meddled round 1/2 and the later picks are pretty decent, and the 2025 yield looks strong, the narrative about shitty drafting may be dated. If you choose to separate the Tepper and the GM/HC picks it looks much better I don’t know if that scenario is accurate but I think it is reasonable to game it that way This with the misfit players drafted is timely. That is where continuity comes in. When you are changing coaches ever couple of years you get an abundance of players that can be ill suited. Plus it is hard on the players having to learn things and they have to think too much. I think we have seen that. I can’t say what we’d better do, not trying to turn it into that. But if we do not make the right decision on coaching and GM we will be doing it again in two years. At some point you know, you have to maybe stick with some people. I am not here to argue if those people are Dan and Dave just the concept. We have to have that.

The old show ‘Name That Tune’ I can name that song in 5 notes. I can fix the Panthers with two. Kidnap Tepper, get a real NFL QB. Arrow pointing up. Really, Tepper being gone would be a one note deal.

Nicole it is a good question.