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If it turns out he just can’t cut it, at least make sure we don’t string it out any longer than this year.

I promised I wouldn’t bitch about Canales year one, would let him learn. Telling myself that today. Following this team is more a sentence rather than a pleasure lately.

It probably is though. More reps in practice and going against another team. I have marked that week for quite a while. Maybe not more important, but more revealing maybe.

I am feeling pretty inpatient to see what the QB will look like this year. What is the sense of him NOT playing? I know the game plan is not all QB sneaks and Hail Marys. Jets week though. Coming up. Hurry up.

I never said that I thought the 20 yard deep ball definition was instituted because of Young. If that is what you are saying you got something different from it than what I thought I was saying. I said it came up ion discussion probably because of him, and I think I said the Bryce Young fans were all for it, in so many words. IOW, he faces skepticism over arm his strength, a hard core Bryce stan will use that 20 yards designation as proof there is nothing wrong with his arm because.... deep ball etc etc All about some ball control fwiw. Hell I was a Willks guy. Those short and medium depth passes out to help with that a lot.

I responded to a specific statement that You made. It is here and it is in English. It was quoted even. If you don’t want people to refute you maybe stop saying refutable poo.

The math is too hard for me, but if you add up all the value spent on Bryce Young and divided it by the value spent on Milton or Rattler what would that look like? How many more lottery tickets could you buy?

I’m also more about real games. I don’t get it because if you are a Bryce homer you don’t want him hurt and if you are a skeptic you don’t want him hurt. I think they all should play or none should play, but worst case is this young man not get tpo prove what he is, on the field. Let’s get on with That.

That’s quality.

I was too late thinking of it to add it to the earlier post about the depth of the OL etc... Pretty sure I heard that Canales tore down the Tampa OL and rebuilt it according to his ... preferences (is that true?), and some players ended up at different positions. Telling me he is not orthodox about some things. https://www.pewterreport.com/dave-canales-bucs-best-o-line/ this is a for instance... probably there is a lot out there that might tell us something. Although he could change his tune as he is not a fully formed entity.

The bottom of the roster gets better when better talent pushes the incumbents down a level. That’s one way. I saw that with Luke’s expression. I’m just gonna hope.

I haven’t watched him but what I saw last year was horrible. Or in OTAs. Whenever I saw him throwing... I tuned right out. But here we go...

I think he should play too, it is a new offense for cryin out loud. Lotta new pieces. What we need to look out for is having people we need, on the field playing against scrubs trying to make the other team. They’ll hurt someone.

What is impact in Legette’s case? Like what are fair expectations? I think Brooks should be expected to produce, acclimate, prove worthy in 2025, if it (even) takes that long. He shouldn’t need an extra year just for missing some camp and early games of a 17 game season. (I hope) He should get at least a half season of ‘I’m back physically’ to work out whatever issues he has to, to trust cuts and contact.

What Canales said about the depth guys going with the ones, that is a big reason the OL is not gelling I would think. Once he has his fill of that they will get to work on the starting unit and hopefully start showing some progress. It seems like another thing where you sacrifice quick results for maybe elevating your depth or seeing if you need to cut bait on a young guy? Seeing who can step up?

See that’s a strawman too though, because that wasn’t the argument. The questioning was over 'is 20 yards downfield a deep ball ?' and someone even went for 15 being deep, I swear they did. And of course people will cite somebody affirming that 20 years is a deep ball - while claiming that I am just biased against Bryce Young (what? lol). It came up when people were looking for Bryce to throw a deep ball. I know Bryce can throw over 20 yards... it isn’t what I was trying to say. People are just grasping at anything to prop him up. When maybe they don’t need to, he may be better this year. He should be. Let him prop himself up. I was just saying there should be a short medium long at the least to better classify the numbers. 20 yard throw should not be valued equally with a 30 yarder, which has less value than a 40 yarder, etc.

I might still be arguing with him.

I must be the wind knocking that ball down.

When you use words together in sequence, they impart meaning. It helps to know the meaning if you are going to use the words. I put your words in my reply so there could be no mistake. Yet.... I know there is a recent practice in society of re-defining stuff to fit into a chosen narrative, and casting ‘legacy’ definitions aside for convenience. You aren’t trying to do that are you?

Iron on iron, yeah that is great. And true. What about the iron on plastic we have all over the place lol

An advantage is intrinsically important, and I just explained why 70 yard boy had the arm advantage. And it equates to effective range, which probably is also of some importance.

I could have accepted a gamble on Bryce in the late first but I agree. I mean I wouldn’t have been happy but that is about as high as I could understand given the risk. He was just off of my board if he was going so high. Flutie was the closest I can think of size wise and he had a real good arm if I recall. I’m not going to look for Flutie highlights. But he was very close to Young in height and weight. My thing is we are in a different era and speed is more a part of the game than ever, and certainly 20 years ago which was about Flutie’s last season when he was pretty much done even as a backup. He was the closest to being something that I can remember. And he sort of was, but that was 25-30 years ago. I’m real skeptical of that translating to modern day.

Saw that. Rams released him too. It was a little confusing, I didn’t push a search. I think he was released by the Rams after 2023 and signed with Cleveland and was released on injury deal and went to the Rams where the same thing happened? I was confused over it but being released so quickly was a red flag to me so I didn't mention him. He is hurt at the moment I think. And he may be a vested vet which keeps some of them, off of the waiver wire they go straight to UFA. Or vet FA, whatever it is. But they can sign wioth whoever and can’t be claimed.

This is what I answered, directly and quoted this in my reply, even ^^^^ And I specified, or ‘enlightened’ as requested. You just mad because people are basically pining over it - because they know we will never see that type of throw as long as Bryce is throwing the passes. See above.

I am hearing rollout scuttlebutt here and there which I expected but don’t like a lot. It is okay if used sparingly but the D can ignore half the field pretty much so you are sort of running into a box canyon.