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Seems to me that when teams can stop our run game and dare us to pass, if they can do that, Canales resists taking the bait. As long as the game is close. He will take three and outs and punt, before he will take an interception.

Wow. Yeah they have lapped us with a 2nd round pick in half a season.

I would wear Icky and Lewis out running to their side.

Meh.

I wish this site nested the thread of posts and replies. I had to go back and find what you said that I responded to. I didn’t mean to belittle your statement or really argue about it, just kind of stating my general recall of how that game went. It would be nice if we had a QB that didn’t put us to sleep in the first half. Or dig a deep hole the team has to climb out of. Yeah. Anything can happen and I can visualize us jumping out with some completions and individual effort getting the YAC, if I squint real hard. But Canales will likely stick to the strategy of minimize the damage eat the clock and keep it close so that maybe we can steal another one at the end. 97 yards in 3 quarters again wouldn’t surprise me.

What a noble idea. Maybe you should get a coffee mug with that printed on it. So if your QB is Fasani, or Clausen, you gonna say that? My coffee mug says maybe a team needs a QB that doesn’t need all that poo. That can prop up the other guys. That isn’t a black hole sucking resources that might be better allocated to prop up the team.

I am not wanting to be too judgemental of Morgan over his first draft given the circumstances. People don’t like my rationale but you know, I don’t so much like theirs either. I was adamantly against drafting Bryce and very resentful over the extreme (imo) measures taken to prop him up. I feel like Dan got caught in that trap with demands or conditions placed on him to help out the QB and the new Offensive minded head coach. And my biased opinion is that it was still all Bryce centric. Micro managed and solely focused on making him a viable player after his first disastrous season. Mandated to help the offense in that draft. I feel like my speculation is reasonable given the climate and situation, and it includes the reasons we didn’t take a C, the reasons we overdrafted a RB and that particular WR. It was totally need based. Perceived needs. All to maximize Bryce. And if it were me, and I wanted the GM slot of my team that I came up with, I would be willing to accede to the agenda that I feel was in place. The goals he had to meet. It is pretty simple, just put Bryce’s needs at the center of everything that was done and work your way through it. I have no idea or inside info, and people have mocked my opinion for it but that is what it is, it still makes sense to me.

Yeah agreed. I am not expecting a repeat of that game. And am not optimistic. Only hopeful. Foolishly, probably.

I can’t say I know, having never worked in an NFL office as an assistent. I know that what I have been hired to do as an assistant or employee is to assist the person that hired me in implementing his decisions and carry out the duties of the day to day. I was rarely, no… I was occasionally consulted on a proposed decision or an issue and I would give my opinion. If they didn’t want to take my advice or counsel, I didn’t get to overrule them. I was paid to support them. Maybe I don’t know how life is in the big city but I wasn’t making decisions unless *I* were in charge. A good way to lose a job would be to not accept being overruled and keep pushing my point of view. I don’t how it was for Dan but I am holding him accountable for what has been done on his watch. Nothing else. Additionally, I understand that he has a boss to answer to.

He did that pretty well last time in that game. Not great The defense had to help but it was better than his normal meh. We answered scores.

Bryce throws a ball that can’t cut the wind. In the past I have read comments from guys that swear different QBs throwing a ball will yield different rates of deceleration. Meaning some guys’ balls will get to the end of their flight path and be strong, and other guys throw balls that die like ducks in hunting season. I don’t know the physics but that seems a bit illogical, but I don’t call them liars. They have the experience I don’t. (I imagine the arc is the thing that makes the difference). If that is true my money is on Bryce for not having the strong finish.

He was a running back and didn’t know nothin’ about birthin no quarterbacks when he was hired here. As OC. Yeah I didn’t get that but he has been learning apparently. Getting his knowledge together by apprenticing in the different roles and trying to get some depth to his game. I wasn’t really feeling hiring a RB guy for OC when we had just drafted a QB at 1.1. And wasn’t about him being the play caller. But he has kept plugging away. Good luck to him.

And I think that’s fair. Or the way you want it. It is a cumulative endeavor. Miss on one, that is fine if you hit on another. Even if it is in a later round.

That seems like truth, but still. No drops is no drops. Like I said elsewhere call Vegas let’s get a pool for when he will drop a ball.

I think people are missing the context of what was behind the first two picks of 2024. Have argued it a fair amount and and been accused of pretzel logic/mental gymnastics to defend Morgan. I don’t see it that way and if another person were in Morgan’s place and did it I would think the same thing. Not gonna re argue it here, but I am in agreement with you on the improvement and growth sentiment.

I like Eager where he is. I like Tillis where he is. Don’t want to change it. At this point in time.

I probably don’t know what the bad is. Wharton? I think he was influential in that decision. Not my favorite. But they aren’t perfect and they are not gonna be perfect.

We got him from KC. One of the gold standard orgs. I like him and don’t want to lose him. Especially inside the division. PS I am not a Morgan basher. I am one that does not blame him for drafting Young. I hope he rewards me with a new QB soon or I might change up.

Man I hate the rollouts generally because the defense can only cover one side. And then we have the lack of downfield attempts and everyone cheats up because we don’t keep them honest. Margins are thin enough without cutting them down yourself.

If I were making that statement I would concede that if he does everything perfect with his mechanics he can make pretty capable throws. But his mechanics are horrible. And if he doesn’t do everything right, it is trouble. And he doesn’t do everything right in a repeatable fashion. It is what Warner was saying, he doesn’t have room to not maximize his potential via using consistent mechanics. His are a huge mess still after three seasons. Enough.

Oh yeah, I am with you there. I spent too much time attempting to explain that poo to the caravan of stans that pass through town, and need some teaching aids for them. When this first started one of the first things I tried to hip them to was, hey look at that arm. Look at that ball flight and speed and time in the air in particular, and imagine how fast an NFL corner can close ground. Like, you guys don’t think that could be an issue for him throwing to the boundaries? Straight down the field too but for sure on the flatter angles it gives them just that little bit of extra time. And they are drafted or evaluated to be drafted off of differences of hundredths of a second. It is a big deal.

I got irritated with Duncan over what I felt was too much fanning. Which, that’s what a lot of people are about and maybe it helps his numbers. I don’t know. I had to duck out though. I watched him a good bit last year. PS, also, there are some other ones that are pretty good but just don’t have time or the want to spend time making the rounds to all these sources. The Advice guy serves my needs and like you said he is consistent.

I will check in with him too pretty frequently. I don’t always agree with him but he has good video presentations and isn’t a total Bryce Stan like some of the other regulars.

I have noticed that, occasionally, he will not get the ball to the sticks on 3rd. He checks it down.

I have posted this video before and referenced it in the Bryce arm strength wars. I brought it up with the alleged pff guy that called us casuals and other names. And about a year prior I posted it proposing the same theory. Noteworthy is they throw with varying degrees of effort. The sailing throws come with max effort. I compare it to baseball pitchers. They generally do not throw 100% effort, they take some off and it helps their accuracy. As you can see, when those guys go all out fastball the football sails. They generally miss high. When people were saying Bryce has such a great arm “look he overthrows deep balls”, well maybe he is trying as hard as he can and misses high, just like these guys. Where they can take a little off and still get plenty of zip, I don’t think he has much to take off the throw and still have it zipping and zinging. Obviously on throws like what beat the Rams velocity isn’t the critical factor, placement and touch to get that are the demands on the throw. But when he needs the velocity he doesn’t have as much effort to spare as the big boys with the strong arms. It makes total sense to me.