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My thing with that is you can’t look at it in a vacuum. Things are symbiotic, if I am using that word right. I know that the playbook is a certain way because of Young’s skill set. Just opening things up to different options would change the whole thing for everybody involved. A whole new equation. Otherwise to the original idea, Wallace was a bad pick. I thought so last year when he got on the field and really never improved. And can’t think of them right now but I know there are examples of a coach or GM being great at a position but cannot fill it on his team. But Dan, that Wallace evaluation; wtf happened? But I think the 2025 rookies are looking pretty good if you are grading on a Panther curve. T Mac will make his QB better (I think we see that now). I really hope Zavala isn’t reverting to 2023 form. Because we will be screwed. Kicker couldn’t make it from what, 57? To me, if your defense is strong and is balling and you punt the ball, I won’t complain. This, today, wasn’t that. Canales is still a young coach and still green.

I think several teams did it to us in 2015 after we jumped all over them. We almost lost some Big leads. If memory serves… This game reminded me of those, from the other side.

Lol yeah we have enjoyed a glimpse of professional quarterbacking in week three. Andy will stand tall and take the hit to make the play and that is a requirement. But, I think the streak ends.

I feel like there had to be some kind of Bryce busting contingency agreement that would allow Canales a clean shot if the Bryce thing doesn’t bear fruit. Meaning unless there are other issues he should be okay. There might be other things. I know what the anti Morgan people say, and they may be right. That he lobbied for Bryce. Right along with the rest of them. Swallowed all of it, the hook the line and the sinker. I just can’t believe anyone who played in the NFL could look at Bryce and feel that way. I think Dan as a LB would be salivating to play against him. I cannot resolve that conflict in my mind so I don’t totally buy that he was an advocate. I see it more like his job is to support his boss. Putting on a unified front. While having enough sense to see which way and how hard the wind was blowing around him. You can’t do much being the lone holdout when you are below people on the totem pole. So I want to say he was pragmatic. Fine if you don’t agree, not down for arguing about it. We are all speculating about it anyway. The way they drafted and signed and spent in 2024 was overwhelmingly slanted towards one goal which was propping up the weak link. That tells me they had a mandate from the boss to make it work, whatever it took. I am not so quick to dismiss Morgan under those circumstances, and I think this year’s rookie class is going to be pretty successful. I think the team will improve as we go, and prefer to wait before condemning the whole operation. To me they are majorly handicapped at QB. Playing from the white tees in a blue tee league. Now, otoh if I knew for a fact that Dan Morgan was a pro Bryce over Stroud man, and had real Bryce belief? I would want him gone no matter his history. Stated as a person who was vehemently anti NFL Bryce (not personally, only as an NFL 1st overall).

He limits the playbook. Which limits the calls and the game planning. It is a handicap for the offensive staff. Anyone says he doesn’t isn’t being real.

Running the ball is hard when the defense doesn’t have to respect the QBs arm. The only time, or a high percentage anyway, that Young can throw an accurate deeper ball is when he has space to do his little run up, make that extra step to get his body into it. He cannot make an arm only throw of any real velocity or distance, that I can see. Rattle him just a little and he forgets all about those mechanics and you will not see a foot planted in the ground in his throwing process. So he throws ducks, balls that take more time to reach the target, that stuff. Defenses can work with that. He has to burn somebody before they will respect it. He rarely does, the odds favor playing the defense like it is a really short field.

I think they had to agree to be all in for two seasons, and that is why the 2024 draft went like it did. I really think the common sense picks at our slots were off the table because they wouldn’t immediately benefit him. The Brooks pick was strange but he is supposed to be so go at catching balls out of the backfield and I think they very much wanted that in the offense. If people recall, it was said he was expected to be ready for camp. I think. The center we needed, well look at Bryce try to set protections. I don’t think they wanted to rely on a rookie being a key man. Wallace was just a bad pick. Highest defensive pick in like three years then, and it was a mistake. I wasn’t against him then but his shortcomings were obvious last year when he got on the field. So wonder why the defense is so bad…. they took all the FA money and all the picks from the D for two years and when they did throw them a draft bone they he was a liability.

He also has never played the third game so far.

Yeah that bothered me. I hate chasing points which if miss the first one, that’s what usually happens.

I have been unable to watch the games but if what I hear about lack of effort is correct I have no sympathy. I hate it, because I have family from that area and was pulling for him, but that doesn’t fly

Miserable I will give you. But if you aren’t miserable after having to watch this college player fail for three years you are the weirdo.

I feel you but we had a glimmer at the end of ‘22. Then we took Bryce.

Although it seems Canales isn’t doing too good in general and may not have a chance to keep the job regardless….. Getting Young out of the way is the only chance he has at keeping his job and maybe getting a decent QB to work with.

It is why he didn’t get the job. Offensive coach, top QB pick, Tepper had his heart set on it and nothing was going to interfere. Especially not a guy he couldn’t push around. Every player in the locker room wanted Wilks back.

Bullshit. He did a great job.

I expect Young to play better and the team to play better. Week one is something I refuse to give much weight to, going back to when we had 4 preseason games. All kinds of unpredictable outcomes happen week one. Seen it too many times to discount that. Since the 17 game schedule, I don’t pay much mind to results and how the units look until week 3. The units just need time to get the teamwork and timing together under real conditions. Not a series at 90% in preseason. That won’t do it. And it is hard to get around it. But Frank is right when he points to the difference in how the offense looks with an NFL level arm behind center. Seattle in 2023, Vegas in 2024, were just liberating for the passing game. This Bryce ball is no fun to watch unless he is having a day where everything is clicking. Which I think we saw one time. Out of 29. Meh.

I think when they announced the schedule we were at 1pm Sunday all the way through.

NO!

Throwing your insults around when your opinions are challenged. sophistication

How about fug you.

I have never moved a post. I assume you consider yourself sophisticated. Congratulations.

UDFA too. Good for him.

I don't think it was Morgan that wanted him. Not that he didn't, just that the desire came from the guy that runs the offense. Also, people talk in historic terms, but we have new people making the evaluations and decisions. That we have only one draft to go by.

Mahomes just couldn't stop him.

That is on Bryce. Or should be. For me in my chair and people discussing it afterwards... So the party line now is, oh he is getting better every week. How long is that going to keep happening? When does it level off? Has it leveled off? Etc, is interesting to look at. It will be footwork, and durability, with his newfound courage to stand in and take hits, that I'll be watching.