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Objection to taking late round QBs noted. Can we note how shitty our QB room is?

Also lol, fwiw… it might not be statistically true but it seems like, from memory, that our offense was better with Foreman lol.

Can’t argue. That’s what we have been doing at QB.

If you want to go with addition by subtraction, you are saying that no one should trade For him. More or less. Release him if it is that bad. I don’t think it is yet though. He should get a last chance to respond by committing himself in the offseason and coming into practices and camp and producing. At or near what is expected from a mid second rounder. Or third. It is kind of like Bryce, he will not ever live up to the cost of his acquisition. To me the mistake is a blip compared to the magnitude of the Bryce mistake and I can’t be but so upset over it. I am like, oh well it happens to every team.

Not intending any antagonism, I don’t know what you mean when saying he knifed Fox. Been a long time. What did he do to Fox? I used to really like Hurney but then he started trading future first round picks away. My red line you don’t cross. I was done with him at that point.

The only point of trading for Coleman seems to be to get rid of XL. Unless you really like Coleman. Who really likes Coleman? We are likely better off hoping they can make Legette into something that can at least contribute, and bring in more competition for that group from the outside. That approach has a better chance of getting some kind of return. IMO

When you consider we got Mike Jackson for essentiallY a 7th round pick, you realize it is what you do with the return that makes it or breaks it. 2nd 3rd 4th 5th in the hands of a shrewd negotiator and capable evaluator, much different than in the hands of Scott Fitterer. Just sayin’.

Man, if a guy could somehow go to the NYJ and fix that mess he would be a king. Many have tried, many have failed.

I saw something, it all runs together after a few videos, but all kind of crazy poo Mark Davis was telling Mendoza he would do for him and his mom and his brother, and his coach. The mom apparently has major medical issues or a disability and he was going to build a box or suite or something for her. In the stadium. 5 years 80 million was mentioned and I believe that would be a coaching contract? I didn’t pay a lot of attention, was reading something while the video played, but it was some pretty over the top stuff if it was near accurate. Point is, that doesn’t sound like they are thinking about trading his rights.

It has been going on for years. Many years. Long time coming to reach the depths of bad form these players put on display weekly in the NFL. It started, as I recall, with the shoulder hit, trying to be a missile and just knock the guy down. Once the Peanut Punch became popular it just got worse. Between all the failed punches and the shoulder hits it is just bad. The league isn’t helping with you can’t hit high, you can’t hit low rules they like to impose. And they don’t come to the league anymore with their fundamentals established, I don’t think. NFL really really needs a minor league for player development.

That is his M.O. for the first two years. Has players identified and makes his pitch when things kick off. Wish we could have scored Williams last year but understand why we didn’t. He sets his sights high though.

Replace an earnest but fairly empty head with a head case may not be the best solution. I am gunshy of guys with attitudes that allow them to miss meetings and stuff like that. You just don’t want them around. Or, I don’t anyway. If we want value out of Legette we gotta rehab him this offseason, get him looking better before that trade deadline. If that’s possible. As he is, what the hell could you really get for him? Our top two offensive coaches have WR coaching in their background, they should be able to improve him.

If he had been on the market at the start of this he may have been the highest rated candidate out there. 12 years younger than Harbaugh. Turned Buffalo around very quickly. I think he is a great fit for Pittsburgh. People say he is too old but I think they don’t realize he is 51 not pushing 60. He has been in the game a long time, got an early start though. He could give them well over ten years of service. Easily. The firing may light a fire under his ass too. He’ll likely self scout and find stuff to improve and will be motivated.

I don’t remember Ealy’s age but Scourton is very young. Which is really encouraging. So much headroom left before he really matures and tops out. Potentially.

Except, there is no starter tier money that goes that low, that it qualifies as a good price on a backup. The guys with the big deals probably make 8-12 times or maybe even more than what their backups make. 33 mil or whatever per year, that is still multiples of what the highest paid backups make. 4-8 million is common with a couple of higher exceptions out there. Okay I looked. The highest guys I see that are backups are topping out at around 7 mil. Lots are down in the 4 range. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings/player/_/year/2026/position/qb/sort/contract_average People don’t think Bryce would accept 30-33 million per year extension. So I guess even the 5th year option price of 26.5 is way too low. That’s like 6 times what Dalton s getting. 4mil. Several guys are right there with him. Gotta think his WAR would be higher in a more productive passing offense.

I saw on a video where Allen is the only player to account for 50 TDs in a season, including playoffs, to Not go to a SB. (that year) And he has done that twice.

I don’t see McDermott having to settle for the Titans. Maybe I am wrong about them and it isn’t the ‘settle’ I think it is. The owner hasn’t shown me much. But they are supposedly building a new stadium and the money will flow to get that filled up, they are going to try and win. So there is that. They have some talent and a high draft slot and the number 1 pick from 2025. I want to see what they do with Levis. If he just cuts down the wtf bonehead decisions by half, he is a maybe. All the physical tools. Should be cheap.

Bad timing on this for him and the Panthers. But you could do a whole lot worse than McDermott that’s for sure.

No doubt. The position coaches influence stuff big time. OC and DC can pass down instructions but those guys implement. They are the every day ‘hands on’ guys. Some positions definitely get a gold star, but we need to fix this poor tackling problem. If I am Evero I am putting pressure on my staff to correct that poo.

And the last time I saw Pinero mentioned it was SF Pinero FG 56 yds. Make the damned 47 yd XP. I don’t miss him.

The Panthers doubled and tripled down on putting guys on the field that would benefit Bryce If you did that for Stroud? Of course I can’t know but feel like it would have made a difference. I get the recency bias with Young’s playoff game vs Stroud’s but zoom way out and look at arc of both players’ teams, seems almost the opposite in Houston, to Carolina. Like, how can we help you in Carolina, vs you’re on you own in Houston.

You know they’re crying the blues. They are likely hoping he folds like he did on his first try with them, to aid the cope.

Eager did PFF for 7 years in different roles. But had moved on and we hired him away from sumersports there are two links the top one has all his resume from USA Today. The bottom one is kind of cool it is sumersports https://pantherswire.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/panthers/2024/05/08/panthers-hire-eric-eager-pff-reactions-twitter/79552382007/I https://sumersports.com/

This shows how fuged we are by Icky’s injury, in the short term. Replace OT with edge, stick a speed WR in there late, looks tasty. As it is, there is no edge and we need to figure that out. I don’t know how you get a day one LOT outside of the 1st, same for edge. If you expect impact.

I laughed at that because I get it. I didn’t want Bryce. At all. But when he stepped on the field vs Atlanta game one 2023, he was even worse than I thought he would be. I was kind of in shock. It hit me pretty hard, what our situation was, that day. And looking at what we did to get him vs Clausen, I was just sick. We gave up so much. Set the team back years.