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I could see that as well, especially if we can’t stay healthy at LB. But like I said, a top 5 I’m not sure really benefits us. I’d really rather go stud DE in the first round. Let him develop with Andy at QB where there is a chance of the other team playing from behind. Andy plays a key roll in developing talent on D with his ability to keep the offense rolling. It’s tough to learn anything when the other team is up 3 scores and they spend the entire second half running it down your throat.

I’m glad we never gave him that third game. How bad is it when we underestimate just how damn bad Bryce could play. We all expected to see at least something. I think we’ll pick at 8.

Andy looks like he warms up with 185 and reps 225. Bryce looks like he warms up with the bar and max is 155. Maybe. Andy is 6’2 220. One is a football player. One makes his teammates feel like they’re at their grandma’s funeral. Forget oceans 11, how this elaborate scam was pulled off is beyond human comprehension.

Bravo. my takes: 1. Please don’t panthers this one up. No big name overhyped FA who comes here to retire. These moves set us back further every year. Keep the staff intact, keep Evero for at least 2 more years to build the right way. Draft young. No tweeners. No projects. Just honest to God football players. 2. We are no longer the laughing stock, get right game for other teams, and that feels really, really good. 3. I wouldn’t say we’re bad. I’d call it not good… but that’s an ok place to be as long as momentum is in the right direction. I’m actually really ok with being not good. All it took was a QB change to go from F it, burn it to the ground, to I actually want to watch this stuff. Amazing.

It’s the fact that he lacks any true physical NFL ability, and would rather play video games than improve…. I would be flabbergasted if anyone came calling. The Sean Gilbert deal… at least he was a football player.

Big, fast accurate guys with big arms typically have a game that translate well to the NFL. He looks like he is an all out dude.

6 for 66 yards and an end zone TD catch in traffic. Not too shabby. Right now, he’s still feeling his way. It’ll come.

He is perfect for the job. He is playing well, throwing beautiful TD passes and having a good time. The line has played well. I’m not deluded in thinking it’ll be this way the rest of the season, but we have real, legit talent throughout the offense so I really don’t think it’s fools gold. This will be a potent offense this year.

Absolutely correct in all points. He’s not a young guy, he’s not the future long term, but his game is still more than adequate until he proves that it’s not. Some of y’all just need to enjoy the ride.

I can accept that. I have found his number of these types of mistakes to be far below what most other QBs have had. His accuracy helps him in this regard. What I’m seeing is a smart and accurate QB with a good line, good arm and good receivers…. is good stuff.

is a good QB defined subjectively (how he looks/feels/unmeasurable attributes) or objectively (data driven, measurables, etc).

Very fair statement.

Intent of this topic is not to mull over how he stacks up in the NFL or his longevity. It was really just asking, what flaws people have noticed in his game.

It was way out of sync

He really has a very complete game. Arm strength, accuracy, pocket awareness, sneaky elusive, leadership….But the biggest thing: bro is cerebral. He reads the defense very quickly, quickly goes through his progressions, delivers a great ball with great mechanics and just does not make a bad decision. Maybe a handful of times where he got away with something over the last 3 starts but nothing egregious. I can’t think of a glaring weakness or somewhere he really needs to up his game. He is far from being a JAG. He’s a very complete QB and under appreciated. He’s not Mahomes, Brady or Brees, but Andy will win you football games. With Thielen, this team puts 14 more points on the board today. He’s got that old man strong.

The respect defenses have for Thielen is criminally under appreciated. Teams know he WILL get open at critical moments and he WILL CATCH THE BALL. Missing him is why we were in 3rd and long so much. They respect Johnson but know X is a rookie. We have not shown a TE threat. Adam and Andy are in lock with each other. I threw a ton of shade at Canales and I will 100% admit how wrong I was. I really like the guy but God was BY poison.

Peoples’ expectations… Smitty was a body catcher as well, just saying. Smitty had Prohel, X has Thielen. X seems very teachable. His routes today were pretty crisp. This was a BIG moment today for big country. Sometimes we can get in to our own head. It would be pretty cool for everyone to scream X!!! When dude makes a big play. Get his confidence going. Jury is out on Mingo. Last year was a complete disaster. I’m willing to see what he’s got this season. He seems to like trucking dudes.

XL is raw and we all knew it. He’s not ready to be the #2 guy yet and I think the moment was too big for him. He’s still a rook and you can tell he’s thinking too much. Body catches can be coached. He’s got Thielen and Andy mentoring him. He couldn’t ask for more.

Retain him. He hasn’t had a legit chance to prove himself. I will say they shown 0 quit and they swarm tackle. They are cohesive, but lacking true DUDES. Defense is easier to build than offense. Everyone knew what the D would be. Offense has been a very pleasant surprise thus far. Do some cap sorcery, sign Andy for 3 (yes, 3) more years, trade Johnson for a second (easily worth that now) later in the season. Maybe even get some blue chip young defensive starter in the trade. Go defense in the draft. Front 7. I’d actually like to go back to 4:3.

This team has scored 87 points in Dalton’s last 3 starts. In those 3 starts the only pick he’s had was the deflection today. 7 TD throws, 1 int. Only 1 game was a home. We have to retain Dalton. He is essential for developing our young talent. I would give up a 5th rounder just for someone to take Bryce off our hands. Regardless of the PR spin, you KNOW it’s awkward AF for him in that locker room.

I knew we would see more third and longs today with the absence of Adam. Regardless of what some say, he draws a ton of respect from defenses and is Andy’s favorite target. He and Johnson are still meshing. This will be a week getting back to fundamentals. Tackling and drops cost them the game…. But look, It’s Joe throwing to Chase and Higgins with their shot at the playoffs hanging in the balance. Sound familiar? It’s like we’ve seen this scenario before. This Panthers team in 2 weeks: 60 points. 48 first downs (let that sink in) 7 touchdowns. Chuba has 218 rush yards, averaging over 5 yards a carry. Both games convincingly winning the TOP. Best WR since… Smitty?!! (DJ Moore people coming at me with torches and pitchforks here… sorry Y’all, Johnson has a higher top gear). In 3 starts, I haven’t yet had a “Damnit, Andy” moment. I couldn’t tell you more than 6 starters on the defense. Most are JAG- level, BUT, they play their asses off. I know there are no moral victories and all of that, but to be down as far as we were at one point and still battling. Gang tackling. That’s character, and it starts at the top. We’ve seen this team mail it in with smaller deficits than that. They believe in their QB and coaching. This week will be fundamentals and developing X to be more comfortable as the #2 until Thielen returns. This is a good thing as it kind of felt like the moment was a bit big for him. I think the pressure of it all directly led to his drops. You couldn’t ask for better mentoring than Thielen and Andy. At the end of the season, kid is going to be a straight up stud. Let him get some confidence and more fluidity to his play… DK level problem. Just watch. I don’t know how to judge Evero yet. He doesn’t have much to work with. A pass rush completely changes the complexion of this game. Joe had an obscene amount of time. It, in addition to poor tackling was the difference here. I think if you give him an at least average pass rush… it’s just not fair to judge a coach when maybe 5 of our current starters would even make the 53 man roster on other squads.

X is raw and you can tell he’s still learning, so he’s thinking too hard instead of just playing his game. Drops can really mess with a rookie’s confidence. Andy is exactly the guy he needs for his development. Dude comes alive with the ball in his hand. It will be critical to have a good QB throwing to him. It is just more fun now.

I’m not a blame the refs guy, but that drive let me know just what’s up. At least 3 missed holding calls on the center and illegal blocking downfield no call. Dalton may as well air it out from here. Shootout. Maybe we get a pick 6 or something

Holding!!! omg ref

Compete. God that word is refreshing.