Gapanthersfan

Talk is cheap. Going to need to see his version of change.

This is correct. Wilks isn’t the guy who would have been told who his qb is going to be and what offense he was going to run.

Reich, game after game let guys fly around Icky to destroy Young. He saw what was going on and did NOTHING to plan around it. It was a power play against Tepper. Tepper knew that unless he fired Frank, then Frank would continue to let Young get destroyed. Do you think Frank would ever let that happen to Stroud? Just wait and see how much protection Bryce gets from his blind side the rest of the season. This take will be validated. You heard it here first. It’s criminal what Frank did. Young wasn’t my guy, but right now he’s our guy and that’s just wrong.

All of the coaches, besides 1, actually cared about winning. Frank as good as he was portrayed actually wanted the panthers to lose, otherwise they would never fire him. It was his hope the moment after Bryce got drafted. Playing your ass off for a coach that wants to lose so he can be fired is F’ed up. Fox, Rivera (with Gettleman), Wilks then everyone…. And then Frank.

It was either fire Frank or have Frank continue to get Bryce killed. Frank forced his hand. Keep Pounding meant something completely different to Frank.

He hates to lose, but he hates to win when he can’t take credit for it even more. The results and actions thus far speak for themselves.

This team has not had a head coach all year. We still look exactly like we did on our first preseason game. He probably told Tepper on draft day, if you pick Young, then you’ll have to fire me. There is not even a glimpse of excitement from him from that point forward. If Frank quits, he forfeits any bonus and agreed upon salary. If he continues to draw up plays to get Bryce killed, Tepper has no choice but to fire him as long as Frank doesn’t engage in any behavior that is in breach of his contract. it’s a complete SOB move on his behalf, but Frank refused to be Tepper's patsy, and knew that if he continued to get Bryce murdered it would only be a matter of time. Tepper thought he could bully Frank but was wrong, again. He also had to hire either someone with ties to the team or a prominent black coach (preferably both… cough). He firing the first black coach of the Panthers who instantly turned chicken s*** in to chicken salad, brought Panther nation back and the locker room loved more than any coach in our history… Overnight… nice. If had replaced Wilks with some random unknown white dude with 0 previous ties to the team… lol it’s a wrap. Tepper better not have ever set foot in the locker room again. Wilks would have never done that to Bryce, and he would have at least had his OC try to make it work. They would be pounding the rock, kept foreman and so would be at least .500. He needs to accept the fact that any coach that he thinks he will be able to bully is going to be a loser. if only…

My plausible take: Hey Frank, Dave here. We want a clean start to our team. New staff. New receivers. New QB. I want you to head it up. Come home, we’re building something great. Money no object. Frank: Tempting. Always wanted something like this. Stroud looks like a stud, everything I want in a QB. Dave: I love it Frank. Sounds great. Here’s a contract. Here’s your sign on bonus. and with the first selection… Bryce Young. Frank: F you. I want out. I quit. You lied to me. Dave: Um, ok. I’m going to need the GROSS sign on bonus back please, and you’ll forfeit all owed salary for quitting without cause. Frank: but the .gov already took $X.XX million in taxes for the lump sum sign on bonus you just paid me. I Guess you’ll have to just fire me without cause because you’re not screwing me over, making me pay you $X.XX million of my own money, when you screwed me out of your promise. Dave: If I fire you without cause, I’ll owe you the entire contract. If you quit without cause, I owe you nothing and you owe me your sign on bonus that I already gave you. Panther fans are then treated to 10 weeks of Frank/Dave stalemate, ass quality football putting the safety of the nice guy little dude we put under center, in hope of getting fired. Dave breaks before Frank breaks his QB. How many games did we have to see Bryce get smoked with Ickey watching from his front row seat. Over and over again. I guess I now know why Ickey never got any help. This last Sunday, when all we had to do was get in the locker room at half with a couple runs, the SOB dials up passing plays. Punt. FG right at half. It was at that moment that I KNEW he was trying to get fired. it was just obvious then. Screw Reich. You did this on purpose. I’m sure your contract had language to the effect of repayment of bonus if you quit without cause, but this will never go reported. You could have at least tried but it was obvious that you never did, Frank. Bryce wasn’t my guy but he didn’t deserve that. I actually like the guy. I wonder what Frank has said to Bryce behind closed doors. Bryce has got to be the happiest one of all in all of this. I’m genuinely curious to see how he responds to this. I’d LOVE to be proven wrong. Bryce, if you can show me some fire and take this team on a 3 game win streak, I will buy a stitched jersey with your name on it and rock it proudly. Dave, I love the Panthers. Please let this clown show end.

He ran the ‘please fire me so I don’t have to quit and pay my sign on bonus back’ offense.

The NFL is a small circle. If I’m invited for an interview, the FIRST thing I’m going to do is call the last guy who didn’t take the offer and ask him why. I’ll then call the old coach and meet for coffee. I will be VERY well informed and I’ll know exactly what questions to ask. this is a people business and people will have to be bought or desperate if this keeps up. I would only agree to terms on a contract that limits the scope of the front office. Tepper doesn’t want these types of people yet. If he is truly serious about winning (and it not looking like it was on him), I hope that changes soon.

Firing Fitt will signify the end of an era and ushering in a different way…. Hopefully. I’m not sure Tepper is ready for that yet, or he is still in search for his next patsy.

Frank was lied to, told to coach up a qb he didn’t want, and said screw it. He didn’t have to take the job. He didn’t need the money. You could tell from jump he didn’t care.

Oof. and it didn’t have to be this way.

I always want to win. Tell all the young kids in attendance who this is their first panthers game it’s a meaningless win.

Several have said it all season on here. I signed up here exclusively to put in to words exactly how I know Tepper’s brain works and what his thoughts were and how his behind the scene interactions were. I know people. I didn’t need to wait and see what insiders were going to come out and say. You can see it in their eyes. Find me anyone there that looks like they’re enjoying any of this. Tepper is THE root. He may be getting closer to the ‘I suck at this’ moment. God help us all until this happens.

His intelligence of the game is second only to Luke in the history of our franchise. I would LOVE to see his offensive brain in action. I would hate to see the legacy of NFL career blemished.

A first round franchise QB’s job is to make 3rd and 4th rounders look like first and second rounders. If it takes first and second rounders to make your first round QB look capable, then that’s a pretty bad and unsustainable problem.

LOL at Caldwell being ‘special advisor to the offense.’ Is this like some sort of compliance officer so Brown doesn’t pull something and start winning like Wilks did.

Hiring Frank fit the bill on a couple big points. 1. Dave had a big problem with how he treated Wilks at the end. You know, that first black head coach guy who turned losers in to winners and restored panther pride, and players loved… He had to hire a known commodity to the team so the hype machine could then crank up the narrative of Frank coming home, as well as several other coaches with ties. ‘Bringing the band back together’ if you will. 2. He knew Frank would let him continue with his bs.

He’s not even close, and never will realize it. In the mind of a narcissist, everything that’s going wrong is never their own doing. He’s angry and frustrated, because he has no idea why things are not going right. He also doesn’t have enough money to buy what he wants, and he’s really not used to that. Dave Tepper, can’t buy something…

It’s not just Frank that didn’t want Bryce. I don’t think anyone on the entire team wanted him over Stroud, either… the players all know who picked Bryce. It was the same dude who sent their coach packing. I made a post yesterday in another thread yesterday that Frank has the FML look on his face. He was promised he could make his own team, but was lied to. It has to destroy him inside to have to toe the line that it was a consensus pick, when all he can see is what it could of been. Again, if I haven’t said it enough, a FOOTBALL guy who has taken a certified NFL ass kicking would never pick Bryce #1. He doesn’t even look like he works.

The benching of Bryce will never be allowed. but it’s ok. Once we fill the offense with first and second round talent, then they’ll show you what Bryce can really do.

1000% Here’s my wacko conspiracy theorist take: 1. We know the NFL desperately wants to ‘expand’ to other markets, but it would leave one conference and division with an extra team if they just add one. Right now at 32 teams, it’s perfect. Any more screws the numbers up. No owner pre-Tepper wanted to move his team… but the league IS going to get it’s way. 2. we know the old boy network of NFL owners dubbed Tepper as the next owner. 3. The Panthers won’t be in Charlotte in 5 years. 4. Tepper, being well know among owners would be purposely on board 100% behind the ruining the franchise and dgaf, therefore making the move easy. None of the other candidates would be ok with tanking. Sounds like some hedge fund stuff… hmmmm… 5. OR, the owners knew the team would be such a disaster with him as the owner and the demise would come together organically. either way is a win for him. He now owns a stinking stadium venue that stays even after the team leaves.

Tepper has been desperate for his statement guy. Salivating. His guy. His team fingerprint. His way of finally showing the league (and fans) it’s not Jerry’s team any longer. Jerry had SS89, Kuechly and Cam. Blue chip names that get media press daily. Bryce, for only God knows what reason, was his chosen guy, and he now looks like an even bigger fool than he did before. God only knows what he saw in him.

You make the trade we did for Bo Jackson or Peyton manning. My God not Bryce young.