Gapanthersfan

The older I get, the more frequently I find my justly applied cynicism… validated. It felt like a blind man was giving me a vasectomy with a pair of bolt cutters.

Yep. Kind of what I felt like it was heading towards.

I-ran Mike Timus? Sounds like substitute teacher day

Y’all having buffering occasionally as well?

I’m trying to fade the overpowering sense that this is a farce and I’m being played. I really appreciate the commentary from former boxers, but the entertainers who don’t know poo from shinola… give me a break. This is slow torture. my chance of satiation at the conclusion of all of this is dropping by the minute.

Do Not Want. I genuinely feel sorry for the head coach of whatever team gets stuck with him. Helicopter dad with star power? No thanks.

The recipe over the last 5 years: 1. draft a guy with high athletic ability at a position of need. 2. play him out of his natural position because you have a big hole to fill. 3. watch him struggle. 4. let a young and promising talent grow depressed and apathetic because a God forsaken franchise is ruining what he has busted his ass his entire life to achieve. The only reason Luke moved to the middle was because Beason got hurt. Think about that. It’s complete arrogance of the coaching staff to tell a player where he’s better suited… or the mark of a desperate team who drafts out of need. This is what happens to teams that draft poorly and have no depth. Constantly working from behind and drafting for need.

I’m not sure the timeframe on a sprained thumb, but, maybe Andy getting the start after the bye? Loyalty has to be to the team. Not Bryce. Coach and Dan have to show the players that they got their backs. Everyone knows Bryce is not the future so don’t waste everyone’s time.

And the old boys club in the NFL, or Jerry would still be here, for better or worse. but yeeeah, Tepper’s fingerprints on everything that has failed.

I back Cam, but I’d like to know the whole picture. Hardly anything is just 100% someone else’s fault.

That has to be the fastest giant I’ve ever seen. He is gigantic.

We are the Brooklyn Brawler (for those who remember WWF from the 90s) of the NFL. He was allowed to have brief periods of success here and there to keep him relevant, but mostly he was fodder to be done with however McMahon pleased.

Guys who are not driven for football greatness frequently check out after their big payday comes. They have elite ability which carried them. But They are not true leaders. Losing is ok as long as ‘I got mine.’ It only takes signing one of these dudes to cost a GM and coach their jobs. Robert Hunt plays like he’s still in college. Horn plays like he’s still in college. Chuba plays like he’s still in college. Brown, same thing. Losing is not ok, especially to these dudes. attitude is infectious; it goes both ways. It also helps that all 3 are top 5 in the NFL at their respective positions (who would have thought?). They walk the walk. This is the core that grooms the rookies on ‘how to be a professional.’ This is our nucleus. This is also why we have to retain Horn. Dan is building a nucleus. Guys like this don’t just come along and happen in to your lap every day. He is building a team in his image. Previously, we’ve overdrafted tweeners based off combine results and signed oft injured big name has beens who look at us as a retirement home. Dan is bringing in and retaining true football players. Finally we can have something nice… hopefully. Dan didn’t just bring in a guard. He brought in Robert Hunt. Bad M’fer.

Hunt is enormous, in more ways than one, but it’s Mills and Jake. Mills embodied what it meant to be a Carolina Panther. Keep Pounding. 2 words. Uniquely ours. Jake started the 2003 season by coming off the bench against the Jags after halftime down 17… and won the game with a no time left back of the end zone pass to Proehl… IMHO one of the most important games in Panthers history. He finished the season by piloting a 4th quarter comeback in the Panthers first ever superbowl, down 2 scores… against the GOAT. Think about that. We had a team that went toe to toe in the Super Bowl with what is arguably the greatest NFL dynasty of all time. Sorry for the thread derail

OMG! Best mic’ed up I’ve ever seen. Leadership, y’all. That’s what a man who hates losing with every fiber of his being looks like. Worth every penny. I see what you did there, Dan.

If they were sold on him and really wanted him to be the starter then they would have already said so. Remember, these dudes have a paycheck wrapped up in winning football games. It’s also become evident that we have a lot of dudes not ok with losing. Andy is going to get healthy eventually and everyone knows he’s 10x the qb BY will ever be. Name BY the new starter… naw dog.

Irish, huh. Well done young man. He’ll be coming with badder intentions

You hit on a biggie. Development of the younger talent. Andy does this in spades. Getting a tempo for the game. Rhythm. The offense is showing completion sans a franchise QB.

Bryce is such an albatross and It feels like I’m sitting in the ‘light is both a ray and a particle’ college physics lecture once again. Like that lecture (Ha! I still made an A, Dr Muir) … can’t figure this ish out. If Andy had another year on his deal then it’s easy. I love me some Andy, even through his rough couple games. How expensive is he going to be is the question. Can we sign both him and Horn? What is the 5th year or tag hit? If not Andy or Bryce, then who? Literally, ANYBODY is better than Bryce, but he would have to be traded with his cap hit. Right? Maybe this is the dog and pony show for a team wanting a project? I don’t want him here any more but the problem of what to do with Horn looms large.

Bring in a physical specimen who dropped in the draft because he has coachable deficits and/or went to a smaller school and is an unknown. Put him behind a line where he knows his life is safe and give him a pair of game breaker RBs and WRs. Let Andy walk and have Bryce as our bridge.

Our big $$ guards brought stability, but they also brought in good veteran leadershipwho can mentor the rest of the lineman on the correct way to do things. Huge. Can not overstate this. ‘Here’s how you become good’ type guys. When he does X, you do Y. dudes who are not ok with losing.

MANY years. This season is becoming a ‘I see what you did’ there vindication on Dan Morgan. Fitt must of made him want to pull his hair out. I bet they didn’t get along too well. This is what franchise building is supposed to look like.

it’s complete speculation from me, of course, but we’re going to have to put a Brinks truck in Jaycee’s driveway. I was, and still am, concerned that he’ll want to go to a contender. Can’t really blame him, but you have to think Morgan loves the dude. I just don’t see how they can sign a top CB and QB right now. I could see them putting the option on Horn… or, they have no intention of keeping Andy and can go full on trying to extend Horn since Bryce has now shown the ability to at least complete a pass. They may be cool with rolling him in to next season as the new bridge QB. Draft a flier QB that has all the physical tools and let him and Bryce compete in camp. So Sanders, Thielen, Dalton and please God Thomas gone. Welcome back Jaycee.

The difference would be analogous to comparing the economies of Guam to California. We have to resign Horn. This franchise has waited decades for someone like him. He is better than Gamble. His dad has probably groomed him for this since he was a kid. Joe Horn was no slouch. Jaycee talks the talk and walks the walk. He’ll jaw with Payton. He’ll rush the field and bow up with a lineman to protect his teammates. Nabers who? 50 yards on the day. No TDs. Can this team handle signing both Andy and possibly the best CB in the league in the same year? Do we option Horn? If the team knows that Andy is gone, do they continue with Bryce for now so he can improve? It’s an odd situation we find ourselves in.

I have always wanted Bryce to prove me wrong. I’ve never hoped for his demise. I said it in another thread: He is our very expensive bridge QB who has now made Dalton expendable. He CAN at least throw some passes, and a good amount of his throws have been on point. My main interest is seeing our line and new pass catchers evolve. Coker, X, and Sanders have shown real talent and it can’t be allowed to get stale. Let him and Thielen walk. Plummer is backup QB. We now have the capital to sign Horn.