Gapanthersfan

I’ll further this in that the org basically lucked their way in to 89. They drafted him to be a returner with WR potential. In no way did they think this is going to be the best #1 receiver to ever play for this team.

The only way this game will be close or we possibly sneak one out is aggression. Violence. “No more shinings, Billy.” O line has to absolutely have their way with their D line. 5 minute drives. 7 minute drives. Pounding the rock, let Bryce sling it and keep him protected. If we go 3 and out more than 2 or 3 times… it’s a wrap. This game is all in the o line. We know what Barkley is and does. We know our defense. It is what it is. If we can pound it out on the ground, force at least 3 3 and outs and get a turnover, we can make hay. If we don’t go tit for tat when they score, it’s over. If we don’t go for every 4th and close on their side of the field, it’s over.

I’m high on the hopium. 27 to 20. Panthers win. We go up 14 to 0 on the first 2 drives and hold them to 10 going in to halftime. Of course they score 10 in the 4th but Clowney gets a sack fumble to ice it away with 45 seconds left.

I look at as a winner as being a guy you *can win with… but you pray you get the good version that day. I contest that if Darnold had started in a better place that he would have an overall slightly better than .500 winning percentage. This can be said for many QBs that have come and gone. You *can win more than you lose, but that’s their ceiling. Darnold is a polarizing guy, I know. But I’m in his camp. Champion QBs are guys who may make a bad throw here and there, but they don’t give a game away. You can count on one hand the number of *bad games they’ve had in the past 5 years. teams who are fortunate enough to find one can build dynasties… instead of praying for consecutive winning seasons.

I didn’t convey the point I was trying to make very well. I’m trying to get at a player’s makeup… it goes beyond win/loss records although record and player makeup are certainly intertwined. There have been players I consider champions on loser franchises. Case in point: Barry Sanders. If Barry ever had the chance to go to a Super Bowl, Barry Sanders would be hoisting a Lombardi at the end of a game. Barry was just geared that way. Barry was a champion at heart without the hardware… well, gold jacket but no trophy. I really want to say it better, but nothing has come easy for me today and my brain is tired.

There is a difference between a winner and a champion. Dalton is a winner. Darnold is a winner. Neither are champions. A champion is never satisfied with just winning. It’s just a different way they’re wired. When the game is on the line and the ball is in their hands, it’s a wrap. IMHO, Winston has never given off that feeling. Watt, Greg, agent 89, Luke, Mahomes, Brees, Brady and to an extent Stafford. Those are champions. Winning shouldn’t be the goal. Dominating (the foe) is the goal. Dynasty. Lofty? Very. Is this Bryce? Hopefully, but we don’t know.

This is why you don’t fall in love with what you THINK you have. Locking this dude up like so many wanted to do based off of the first few dates was ludicrous, and completely the panthers thing to do. It would have been a disaster. You only dish big $ to people who fit the franchise and love football with every fiber of their being. Draft well. Build culture, brand and loyalty. Keep your own.

Evero is really killing us. His scheme has stopping the run as an afterthought.

Bryce version 2.0 has yet to give a game away or throw a WTF was that kind of ball. This is an unfathomable step up that I never thought possible. If he does nothing else going forward he has absolved himself from being the biggest draft bust in history. I will levy high praise in saying we have a guy we can win with, maybe. 2 weeks in a row he showed that he could deliver with the game on the line and that the moment wasn’t too big for him. Not everyone has that. He airmailed an over 40 yard DIME to Tremble after avoiding a sack, rolling out and delivering with someone in his face… and he didn’t let up the entire game. So I don’t know who this kid is. I know who Winston is. I’ll ride with Bryce

I have thought this as well. Some can really screw with your brain.

Andy Dalton. The more I think about it. Dalton. Our greats have spoke of how they wouldn’t have turned out the way they did without the mentoring they received. For Luke it was 58 and 88. For 89 it was Proehl and Mushin. Look at our line this year. Mentoring. Dalton may have a future as a QB coach. Here’s what you do when you see X and Y. You think it’s Z but it’s actually R. This is where you go and what you do. Let me walk you through the right way to study film. All of these things will inspire confidence. I’m sure guys in the locker room talk to him a bit different now that they see him dropping dimes in clutch time. That has to feel good. I think dude realizes maybe he does belong in the NFL.

Someone, something, somewhere helped him to get his head right. A knowledge deficit would not have been overcome to this level this quickly. Likewise for physical. His give a damn was shattered. I’m sure Andy has played a large roll, but it’s more than just that. It’s hard to ask for a better mentor. Maybe he’ll open up at some point.

This. BPA and a DC who will go back to a 4-3. I’d be overjoyed with a stud DE or DT but if a game changing, consensus BPA, LB, LT, Center, WR or safety is there then that’s who you take. I truly believe we have better talent on D than is currently on display since the scheme is so poor.

Best rookie WR prospect panthers have had since when? Drops are brutal but this is where Thielen is so important in his development. With Bryce version 1.0, X didn’t really have much of a training camp and everything was new. He’s getting open and has made some clutch grabs. I’m cautiously optimistic.

Thielen is a stud, period. He’s still that dude. That grab was the best catch I’ve ever seen a panther make, even over McCaffery’s or Greg’s. Can the he’s old and washed up narrative please just die? This is a different offense with him on the field. He draws a lot of respect from opposing defenses and they know that he will beat you if you give him a chance.

From where this team was the first 2 games… now no longer an easy out for ANYBODY… with Bryce f-in Young playing high level ball, throwing to a bunch of rookies….. this is a got dang MIRACLE.

Eddie has kept us in far more games than he has lost us. This an aberration for him. No telling if anything else was going on. No kick is an easy kick. If he gets the yips off hen different story.

Smarter coaching realizes that they have Mike Evans, Wirfs and a dominating run game and we don’t. I said it when they used this as the excuse for Wilks (please, I’m not rehashing)… nobody is going to stop a motivated Mike Evans when a capable QB has an all pro LT watching his back. Nobody. We needed a long drive churn the clock and beat their brains in strategy that we had last week. Wear their defense down. Nope. I think he desperately wanted, and thought we could go point for point on our way to hanging a 40 burger on his old team with a qb everyone had given up on… sound familiar?

We can’t have nice things

Thanks for the TO Canales. I know you’re new and all, but c’mon bro.

Nostra. F-ing. damus.

WTF with the TO?!! glad we give Evans and Bucky time to respond to our upcoming score

Reich just got lapped 5x over if bro pulled this move in an effort to get fired. I’ve never seen anything quite like this, ever. We all witnessed NFL history.

I feel for the Chicago PD tonight. There’s going to be so many fights and domestic calls

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