Gapanthersfan

People say no QB would have had success with our line last year, and the murmuring is already ramping up. Excuses. A QB that can make throws that are just plain unfair to a defense all of a sudden makes a line look 10x better. It inspires confidence in the whole team, and a lack there of on the opponent. The inverse holds true as well. How hard are these dudes going to play if they know QB just does not have the tools to needed to win? Why get your brains beat in if you’ve got a full bank account and KNOW your guy is not even close to being an NFL qb? BY ain’t it, sadly, and everyone knows it. I’m very interested to at least see what things look like with an NFL capable arm tonight. I’m expecting to lose, but hopefully not be completely demoralized.

That this move was even allowed to happen by Tepp is very telling. This is not trivial. Seeing Bryce play is literally the only thing pretty much everyone wants to see this Thursday, but they’re hiding him. I don’t think Canales would have agreed to come here, knowing that his future rested in the hands of BY. No coach would. Did Tepp promise Canales that he would be allowed to do with Bryce as he wished? He saw how Tepp did Frank. I wonder if he’s got that junk in writing on his contract. A GM/head coach/owner doesn’t empty the cash register like they did to get offensive talent, offensive head coach, only to sit the starting QB on game one. Where are the ‘Bryce has grown by leaps and bounds’ articles we’re supposed to be seeing? Montages of him throwing darts in practice. Getting in peoples faces. where his hard work in the offseason is paying off? After last season and what was given up for him, we are owed this. Canales is seeing what he has in the other dudes while playing with the 1s.

After seeing how BY goes down with just a jersey tug, he is going to have the whole defense gunning for him on every play all season long. Seriously, the formula is pretty simple. Bring the house. Every play. Overload the middle and get to him that way. If he manages to roll out, key in on the dump off since he hasn’t yet shown the arm to hit anything reliably on the sidelines. Throws to the middle are pick sixes. He’s shown 0 elusiveness so he’s easy pickings for safeties, cb, lb, de.. pretty much everyone. Perhaps this is Canales acknowledging that fact, knowing that a fringe starter for another team sure would love to finish the game tallying 2 sacks and a few qb pressures. Preseason is very valuable. This team is a complete dumpster fire laughing stock, most loser ass organization in all of professional sports. This season, hopefully, is where grown men show that they have pride and that things are now, somehow, different. I’m not saying go out there and get a concussion, but if you’re getting your doors blown off and yucking it up on the sideline, laughing, smiling… that’s loser s***. 89, 88, 1, 59, 58… if they were on this team, would they just be having a good old time on the sidelines seeing their team get their brains beaten in, preseason or not? I think Canales already knows that Bryce won’t be starting come week 4 and wants the other QBs to get live action with the 1s.

I’m going to go long. Don’t like it, then don’t read. If Bryce doesn’t quickly convince his teammates that they can win with him under center… these are grown men playing for a check, love of winning, legacy or all of the above; their window of time to do so is very limited. Say you’re a WR in a contract year and all you foresee are ducks and hospital balls in your future vs a veteran on the bench who at least gives you a chance to showcase your skills. what if you’re a RB trying desperately to land a 2 yr deal somewhere? but because your QB is so limited, you know every play you’re about to get the piss beat out of you, and no team will come calling at the end of the season. It all trickles down to other positions. If on defense, why play like a wild man if bro has already thrown 4 picks in the first 2 games? Down 10 at half? Guaranteed L. Up 3? L. Up 7/10? Probably lose by a 48 yard fg at the end, but may be able to pull it out if the running game comes up clutch, and Brown can wreck shop. This is these dudes bank accounts… a very short timespan at which they have to set themselves up for the rest of their, and their families’ lives. They don’t give damn about draft, they want to win. They need to win. Now. Not next season. They might not have a next season. Any married man knows about marriage politics. Player comes home after a game. He’s beat up. Tired. Pissed. Probably needs some quiet time to unwind. Nope. Not happening. Promise you it’s not ‘You’ll get em next time, hun.’ Naw bruh, it’s more like ‘they better hurry up and pull that mf’er.’ Now homie’s got to hear about it at home…. With a high probability of the same thing next Sunday. Make your wife nervous when it comes to household finances and see how good it goes. Does anyone really think the ‘we’re getting there guys’ powwow will work if he pitches 3 WTF games out the gate? Tepper has proven 1 thing. No coach’s job is safe. That locker room is going to get real uncomfortable and hostile. Andy is in his sunset years, and I am not, definitely not, saying that with him we become winners, but he can at least make NFL throws and knows HOW to win a game in the NFL… and everyone on the team knows that. Hell, they may get cheeky and even go .500. A vet QB loaded up with talent and a beefed up o line? Stranger things have happened. 2024 Bryce better show something quickly to these dudes. There are a LOT of jobs riding on it. If Tepper and co have resigned themselves to cut bait, he ain’t got a leash. He’s getting held on to by the collar.

It’s not how many, it’s how it looks. if we’re losing, but I see some fire, passion, urgency, growth and he’s at least making NFL throws, I’ll give him at least 8 games. If he looks like he doesn’t want to be there, No fire, no drive and his teammates still look like they don’t respect him? 3 games, max. It’ll be a ‘Bryce just needs some more time to develop’ type move. We need to at least get a fan base back again, draft be dammed. For us pick 4 vs 12 may not really matter all that much. I’ll sacrifice 8 draft spots to see watchable football again. Draft capital hasn’t done us much good up to this point anyway. We need winning. If a turd is a turd, flush it down. No one will come if the 2023 Bryce is under center. As hard as it is to come to grips with, we can at least win with Andy. Maybe even go .500. 2023 Bryce gives us no hope.

I think scouting has just become lazy. Echo chamber where people find buzzwords and keep repeating them. Gas lighting. There are a few outliers but they’re quickly labeled as haters. Racists… regardless of the fact that they prefer the other dude of the same ethnicity. ‘Consensus’ at any cost. Bro never even had a true head to head throwing evaluation with the others. And he’s tiny. With a terrible deep ball… with ALABAMA receivers and line. And he goes #1 overall… where as Stroud goes in to Athens and carves up a Georgia defense that clowned everybody that year… How does something so completely illogical even happen where it’s Bryce over CJ? Frank could not wait to leave this clown show. Dan and other former NFL players on staff green lighted this KID pre-draft? Sorry. Not buying it. It’s the pick of the boss who is paying you a crap ton of $$. Yes man it is.

Screwing over SC. Again.

It’s one thing to be losers, but it’s entirely different to be the worst franchise in all of professional sports, who has gotten drastically worse with every desperation move they make and gave away the only true stars the team had up to that point for the absolute worst draft move since Ricky Williams (at least he was actually talented). Where’s the Tylenol? Moreover, a blowhard yankee, elitest drink throwing megalomaniac owner was forced on us who had no intention of carrying over any Panther heritage or tradition. His ‘smarter than you’ moves were so incredibly idiotic, they feel suspiciously intentional, subterfuge if you will, in an effort to sell the team and keep the taxpayer renovated stadium for making megabucks off of concerts. Hmmm… The first taste of pride, winning, competence… Wilks style, was quickly dismantled in to this steaming pile of poo we have now. We’ve had plenty of suck years, but now we’re straight clowned and laughed at. 6 first downs feels and 3 points like a successful half. Last year was unwatchable, except for the 1 game Bryce was out. It’s all just so bad. All of it, until proven otherwise.

He got his #1 pick paycheck. He’s 23 and guaranteed salary is $38 million in a state that doesn’t have too high of income taxes, relatively. he’ll never have to work a ‘normal’ job a day in his life going forward. If he knows what everyone else can plainly see, his motivation to take the mauling he is about to receive… bro. There’s just no way. I have seen nothing to convince me that he lives for this. Fire? A bic lighter has a bigger flame. Where is the physical development? He knows it was it was his biggest issue last year. There’s a lot of people willing to sell out if offered $38 million. In 5 years, no one will even remember his name, save for us fans who will never forget just how dirty we were done. He will leave the NFL a very wealthy kid with almost no physical or cognitive ailments. A feat VERY few can claim.

And it’s not even like we have a young prospect waiting in the wings. When Bryce gets pulled/injured by week 3/4, Dalton is decent enough to win us 6-7 games with the talented we have accumulated on offense. I truly believe we have some real playmakers on O. So at least we will look like an actual football team again. It’ll put fans in the seats, but will have us looking in the mid rounds for the next qb.

Physics doesn’t stop physicsing just because it’s the NFL. my mind is straight blown, still. Say you’re forced to lay a bet for every penny you have and your house if Bryce will survive the season without something really wrong with him afterwards. Your wife and kids are there looking at you…. Yeah. Everyone would bet the same because homerism would go out the door. It’s physics. He has no superpower. We were victim to one of the biggest con jobs ever pulled in the NFL draft… and we have just the owner to fall for it.

Do you even lift, bro?

Playing off script is different when your receivers are Alabama open vs NFL open. In the NFL, broken play add lib stuff requires a strong arm that can deliver while being run down from behind or side stepping…. Or it goes for 6 the other direction. In an average game, at least 8-10 plays break down and go off script, and that goes for every team. This is where big plays get made for either side. All it takes is 1 noodle arm throw in this scenario to determine a game…. Especially when you’re not exactly blowing teams out. We saw in the Falcons game what happens on a come back down the side. Across the middle is a big no go. Only thing left that’s safe is a dump off or throw away, and even some of the throwaways were suspect. Our improved line will help to decrease the number of busted plays, but they will still come, and they pose the biggest risk to us winning. It’s all about arm strength, it always has been, and his better have come a long way.

This season is all about the run. Stop theirs while imposing ours. Bryce will look serviceable if we can pick up chunk yards on the ground. It’ll enable him to do his short game and rely on the shear ability on the receiver to make a play. I see run to pass being 65:35. We failed miserably at run stopping on crucial drives last year and it lost us several games. Teams that can’t stop the run do not win in the nfl. if we can do both we’ll probably win 5-6 games. If not, 2 maybe 3…

The unmentioned thing with the dad bod QBs seen above is… they can make ALL the throws, in the clutch, on their third read, when it matters, to B level talent. If a qb is able to do that, not much else matters. If they can’t… not much else matters there, either. Jake to Proehl and Mangum. Cam to Byrd. That’s how teams are able to go deep in to the playoffs consistently. Injury cut both careers short, and we’ve been flailing ever since. When your QB can make B talent in to pro-bowlers, teams win. JAGs go off. 6 catches for 140 and 2 TDs. Every play is a potential TD. Draft order goes o line, d line/pass rush/corners then WR. RB in 5th round or later. They don’t fall for the ‘generational talent’ seen every year BS. They just draft solid. Dudes are traded before big contracts for premium assets. You keep THAT DUDE that keeps other coaches awake at night. True blue chip guys that have no equal, and will be the reason at least 2 games are won every season. Garrett, Watt, Donald, Bosa, etc. the ones you know won’t check out after their first big payday because they’re thinking HOF. Your stud QB makes that all possible. You attract top up and coming coaching talent with HC aspirations, not washed up has beens or never were(s). It is the recipe. Trying to do it any other way might be doable for a season or 2, but it is just 1 bad draft or key injury away from imploding in to a complete rebuild. It’s fragile. I want Bryce to exceed my wildest expectations because small ball scares nobody. It will be figured out quickly. Bryce, please prove me and a whole lot of other people wrong. First impressions are everything and you have a serious uphill battle. Tepper wanted to cut in line. He came in feeling like he cracked the code nobody could crack. He completely ignored the leadership and culture side of the business. Players saw how badly he disrespected Wilks. Through Steve’s leadership alone, defying everything Tep wanted to do, For a brief while, he brought some level of respect back to the organization.

I can get on board. Hopefully tepp leaves him alone.

I was thinking this EXACT thought this am. We have a very kind sports media.

Burns. A fitting verb for how so many fans feel after they turned down the Ram’s offer.

Nothing about Bryce fit the template for what the team was trying to do last year. Frank signed on with the promise that it would be Stroud or Richardson. Guys who could actually make the throws that his offense needed to run. Frank thought it would be his chance to start from scratch with all of his guys, but got duped on the key cog needed for the whole thing to run. When your jerk boss says ‘so it’s a consensus’ … then it’s a consensus. a severely undersized qb who wouldn’t even throw the ball at his weigh in and has glaring, significant physical deficiencies… is the #1 overall pick? Roh kay raggy. Was Fitt really that bad? Did he need his zyprexa dose cut back some? Did he really think he was out moving everyone and getting the next Brady? I normally get over stuff really quickly but this is so hard for me to let go. How did this dude start for Alabama? How did he end up the #1 pick?! Bryce bro, please make me eat my words. You button hooked me with the GB game and I drank some of the cool aide. Animal Dan and Frank the tank, Deuce Staley…yup, Bryce is my guy!! … please.

There is no way that anyone who has played NFL ball wanted this kid. I do not care what reports said about who wanted him… and I will never be convinced otherwise. Morgan in his prime played like a damn animal, and would have salivated at seeing Young lined up under center. Young ain’t his dude. He better ball out, quickly.

NY sports media is going to be glorious when BB takes his first checkout day.

Burns playing like a bum all last season tanked his trade value and contract. If he shows out and plays like an animal all season, we get at least a first and he might have gotten the money he wanted. Instead, he showed the league he’s all about the business decision. Sounds like a GM killer to me. Morgan would have taken a Burger King Italian chicken sandwich (bring it back, BK) to get him gone.

If Bryce starts giving games away on the regular and Canales leaves him in… team malaise sets in… 2-3 wins, only because our goal is run the rock and stop the run… and games are still won in the NFL that way. 5-6, but only if Bryce displays traits of an NFL qb.

Once Burns was full engaged by any O lineman, it was usually a wrap after that. He never just straight bullied people and was easily handled. Brown and Luvu were our chance at not letting run go for 7+. I sincerely hope the attitude is there so it changes for the better this year

Can elite level players truly be ruined psychologically, or is that just an excuse people throw around for a top pick dude that never pans out? Next to Cam, CMC took the biggest beating ever seen by a panthers player. He’s doing ok, I guess. DJ Moore, Mr 1000 yards? My point being, Elite players rise to the occasion regardless of the circumstances. I think Bryce needs to give the panthers a fair shot.