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Greg was only second to Kuechly when it came to football IQ. And that’s a close second. Greg was literally everything you could want in a football player. Physical attributes, drive, can’t stand losing and his intelligence. He and Luke were mirror images of each other. Bro played every snap like he had something to prove. I would argue that he was a more complete TE than Crumpler, who is probably the best TE ever in the South. NOBODY liked it when they had to cover Greg. I love this young man’s energy and aspirations. I hope he truly understands the gravity of his statement, and achieves it. Not trying to derail the conversation, but I can’t stinking believe the level of talent we had in 2015. If Greg Hardy hadn’t come unglued and kicked off the team, we go undefeated in 2015 and murder Peyton Manning.
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Division opponents thread: Bucs, Falcons Saints news
Gapanthersfan replied to Captain Morgan's topic in Carolina Panthers
NFC south has been the most difficult division to forecast year in and year out. The Drew Brees lead Saints were the most consistent bet but besides him, you can’t say that for any other team. I know it can be said league wide, but in the South, when they’re hot, they’re HOT, and beat the piss out of the rest of the NFL. 2002 Bucs, 2003 Panthers, Brees led Saints, Brady led Bucs, 2015 Panthers, 2016 Birds, etc. Problem being is it being so hit and miss, and almost always driven by momentum, and history. Panthers do not win in Atlanta. Panthers love going to Tampa Birds hate going to swamp town since 2002, the NFC has been represented 6 times by South teams in the SB, won 3 of them, really should of been all 6 times but that’s another argument. -
As has been said, I really need to see us win because of him, not in spite of. My concern is getting fools gold again. We’re going to put so much primo talent around him… will it make him look better than he truly is? Will it look like Bama? I need to see at least 3-4 clutch 3rd and long conversions where he made it happen. The ability to throw in to the middle of the field on a rope. Better deep shot hookups. NFC offensive player of the week sure would be cool too.
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Where would the Panthers be if they sat Bryce Young last season?
Gapanthersfan replied to hepcat's topic in Carolina Panthers
Never in 1,000,000. I’m still completely nonplussed as to how he was the pick. Facts: really undersized. Bad deep ball. Weak arm. Bad footwork. Needs elite talent to succeed. Never even threw a ball at the combine. How many more bad signs do you need? But somehow scammed us in to selling the farm. Unreal. Canales is upgrading talent across the board on the offense. He wants DUDES. It SHOULD help Bryce, as well as his eventual replacement. I know where Tepper is going to be stationed most of the time come training camp. -
Alls I’m saying, is dude needs to be mic’ed up every game. I can’t wait to hear his trash talk.
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Where would the Panthers be if they sat Bryce Young last season?
Gapanthersfan replied to hepcat's topic in Carolina Panthers
Canales is clearly building an NFL offense, not a Bryce offense. They’re giving him a chance and if he can run it, good. -
Where would the Panthers be if they sat Bryce Young last season?
Gapanthersfan replied to hepcat's topic in Carolina Panthers
There is nothing unpopular at all about your opinion. How everything played out on the field backs it up. Bryce starts the season with much fanfare, gives the atl game away, and showed anyone who watched that his arm talent was shockingly bad. bad look, so after a few weeks, the team cooks up a fake injury that nobody saw, presumably to decide what direction to go next. Enter Dalton for one game while Bryce is seen walking comfortably on the sideline, smiling and yucking it up like he’s a 5 year vet. Dalton performs admirably given the circumstances (please no Dalton ve Bryce retort). The contrast between the two was so strong that it’s still debated today. If Dalton’s performance was similar to what Bryce had done up to that point, I truly believe they would have sat Bryce longer, but it wasn’t. Dalton relied on vet savvy and a better arm. It’s debatable how many games that gets us. Meaningless to fans, but not to players with serious financial incentives on the line. What it really was, was a ‘young man (see what I did?)’ playing a grown man’s game, who lacked basic fundamentals and essential physical talent, behind a line that was VERY ill suited for the scheme forced on them, WRs who looked completely confused and unmotivated, with a back stabbing coaching staff in give up mode, GM who I wouldn’t trust to organize my cooking utensil drawer and an owner who meets with coaches every week and tells them which plays he likes and which ones he doesn’t. Bryce doesn’t get a mulligan, but I’m willing to give him a ‘my bad’ from the team. Last season stunk worse than Bigfoot’s di**. It literally can’t get ANY worse than the unwatchable sh** show that was last year. I have to see a monumental change in his physical ability and overall confidence. I have to see that he found a laser arm, somewhere, in the offseason, or everything else is irrelevant. -
Where would the Panthers be if they sat Bryce Young last season?
Gapanthersfan replied to hepcat's topic in Carolina Panthers
Dalton gets us to 5-7 wins. It would have been much easier to mitigate pressure with his style of play, and the defense would have to respect his arm. I could also see him having a few 3 TD games. He’d still get rocked pretty bad and average 3 sacks a game. I could see him and Mingo meshing well, giving us more than 1 effective receiver. I’ve never seen such a propaganda campaign like the one that got Bryce chosen #1 overall. Everything that was advertised was fools gold. Strikingly unpolished. The moment this was seen, he should have undergone a strict conditioning, strengthening, and fundamentals program… but the politics of the situation would never let it happen. He needed a year. Dude looks like Red trying to get his bike back from Deebo every time he steps on the field (someone should photoshop that poo.) -
I live here. ATL sports talk radio has been GLORIOUS since the draft. It’s seriously on par with the fallout of 28 to 3, and I’m really not exaggerating. The amount of anger and incredulity… the tears are delicious. Nothing else is being talked about.
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This is something the Bryce camp just can’t realize. Opposing teams are more than happy to give up a couple bigger plays a game by leaving deep shots open because they know the odds are so slim of a successful completion. The formula was pretty simple, even for the worst defenses. Bro just had nothing over about 20 yards. The season opener in ATL showed the entire league the blueprint.
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The first TC practice will show A LOT.
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Coach killer. If Bryce at least showed drive, a temper your friends were afraid of… someone may take a flier on him. If it’s last year’s Bryce part 2, then arena league it is.
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I want the panthers to win. Full stop. No one ever cared if Luke, Greg, Jake, Pep, SS, Davis, Mills, Walls, Stewart, etc were given a fair shot. It’s not a fair game. When you’re THE guy, it’s just how it is. If we start an ugly 0 and 4, there are plays to be made but Bryce isn’t making the throws and the boo birds are out…. the locker room won’t be aw shucks we’ll get em next time, we believe in you Bryce buddy, we’re still gelling. Nah bruh, there going to be some grown ass men coming over to his locker to talk to him. If it comes out showing promise and people see true progression in Bryce, especially mechanics, different story. Give that dude some time.
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Bing go. In the locker room, they want to win to win, but this is their paycheck. their career. Their bank account. If they see last year’s Bryce for the first 4 games in a row… it’s not going to be a patient environment…. And it’s not just the players. The front office is the same way.
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Very short leash. No excuses. The fact that he chillaxed all summer is a real bad look to everybody, especially the locker room. QB is the leader of the locker room and sets the tone. Morgan has lived it. He will pick up on the vibe quickly.
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Panthers Select Xavier Legette WR - Pick 32, Round 1
Gapanthersfan replied to Bear Hands's topic in Carolina Panthers
Character traits matter. There is a type of man they are now targeting. You can coach the finer points of the game. You can’t coach character. Are they going to play every down like their life depends on it? See Derrick Brown, Smith, Cam, T Davis, the entire 2003 squad, etc. Burns came in with all the tools but never chose to hone his craft and gave effort only when it benefited him. Bye Felicia. It’s a new era. Mad dogging you, bro. -
This right here. Bryce 100% gives off the take it or leave it vibe when it comes to football. There is 0.00% win or die vibe. You’re the #1 overall pick on a team that believed in you so much that they gave up the farm, you turned in the most putrid QB performance seen in almost 20 years, and you go home and chill? You got shirt tackled on the regular. It’s a miracle you still have a spleen. You’re supposed to be the alpha leader in a room full of grown ass men. Wat Dah Fark bro?!! Alls I’m saying is Dan Morgan was a dawg, wants dawgs and knows one when he sees one. Bryce better start barking.
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The whole reason behind having a stud franchise QB is that he can make more happen with less and resources can be distributed to other parts of the team. Look at the best teams that win consistently. Franchise QB, good to great o line, some decent WRs but not necessarily elite. RB is plug and play. QB can make every throw and is a threat every time he touches the ball. They consistently move the chains. Opposing Defense plays on their heels because the QB is a certified BMF. Draft capital mainly goes in to recycling the lines. they’re not constantly trying to get another WR killed with hospital balls. I sincerely hope we reach that level one day.
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My concern is that Bryce is going to require a lot of premium resources to make his style of play work. He needs first and second round talent. His game is: play breaks down, his beast o line buys him half an hour of scramble time and his first round WR makes magic happen. Unless Morgan and co are draft and FA wizards, the defense will be filled with a stud here and there, but mostly JAGs. It’s damn near impossible to win a championship with a crap defense. in this instance, Bryce wins but panthers lose. We win 7 to 11 games a year, just because we’re so loaded on O. Ground game goes for 180 yards and 3 TDs a game behind a nasty line. Defense gives up 21 on the regular.
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Tepper cuts bait early, but I hope he realizes that his instincts up until this season have been completely wrong. Promoting Morgan is a big deal here’s why. I’m glad culture was brought up. I do think Morgan will get things rolling in the right direction. He’s suited up in that locker room. He knows Panthers, bust you in your mouth, football. Players will respect him. I guarantee he along with Brown are the undisputed leaders in the locker room already. Their philosophies are almost identical. This is good. I bet they’ve already talked about this. The fact that Tepper finally promoted someone from the old guard, may be a sign of showing some humility. Morgan was a DAWG. He knows what it takes to win, and he knows what winners look like.
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I really think this is where the crux of everything lies. Frank and co had no clue what to draw up once Young was the pick. He’s been around long enough to know a coach killer when he sees one. He knew it was a ship destined to sink. He saw how the skill set of the line players didn’t match the scheme. Same thing with receivers. He saw how 0.0% of the Bryce hype was actually true. He couldn’t wait to get fired, and used the weekly decapitation attempts on Bryce as leverage for Tepper to finally do so. Hell, he probably bought Ickey a G wagon as a show of appreciation.