Gapanthersfan

The pressure needs to continue at the local level until the national media has no choice but to cover it. If they wanted to, they would have done so by now.

Agreed. To me, and hopefully everyone else, this is so impactful because I can see it with my own 2 eyes. There is no possibility of embellishment (certainly not inferring such of other owners scumbaggery). Billionaire on high without impunity throwing a drink at a common plebe knowing no repercussions will follow. At the next country club gathering, it’ll probably be bragged about and they’ll yuck it up.

Yup, so still not even a peep on nfl.com. There had been a tiny link to an article on espn.com on Sunday but that’s now gone. No official word from the nfl. Nothing spoken from the panthers front office. I can now see how this is going to play out. Abhorrent and sickening. Again demonstrates that the ruling class has their own rule book… every page is blank…

So does this make Dave a tosser, then? Secondly: A new money, ahole rookie owner who told all the current owners that analytics was the future and has now put a spotlight back on owners…

Just like the team, this is another problem money won’t fix for Dave. He is 1000% unable to control an outcome with his only tool, money, and the tantrums that you see are him realizing it. Up to this point, he’s been able to get anything he’s wanted… until now. It’s literally a child being told no. This is a bigger deal than people are giving it credit for. The spotlight had finally faded from the team owners and they could go back to their life as they knew it. With this, he’s now brought MAJOR heat back again. This isn’t ’reports are owner x’ news columns. This is a good quality forever video of a billionaire NFL team owner committing a crime (yes it’s dumb, but by law a crime). Expect more ‘team owners’ columns again and all the owners now have to watch their a$$es again until this heat goes away. A light punishment will only generate more articles on how he got off easy on the 2 tiered justice system. Old heads can fade this type of stuff, usually… but he’s a rookie a hole owner of the laughing stock team who told the other owners that their way was outdated. And he’s now brought heat back.

4 first round picks down the crapper. Didn’t go through with the Burns trade and now this. 4. We could have rolled more or less intact, sans Burns, from last season’s team and have had a decently reliable offense. But we would still be picking in the top 10, probably, and have the future picks from the rams. We could have had a Hubbard Foreman 1-2 punch, DJ Moore and pick up Thielen. Small moves, recognizing what was working for us. The o line finished the season strong. It was falling in to place. Fans were back. Keep pounding was back. But this insecure drink throwing egomaniac despised it. He needed Dave ball, not Jerry ball. He wants the credit and notoriety. ‘Team’ is irrelevant to him. That’s why he’s so quick to blow it up and only hire people that will defer to his manipulation. He’s not mad over losing. He’s mad because he knows he looks like a complete idiot and the only solution he’s ever known, money, isn’t working… and if anything else, it’s only getting worse. He wants Dave to win first, Panthers to win second. He now knows that more money won’t fix this. Well dang. That’s his biggest tool. I think he’s now seeing that his picks and style of play not only lose, but is the biggest laughing stock in professional sports. He bought the team for profit and notoriety. Hiring football minds to run the show completely takes the shine off of him. I honestly think he would rather cut bait than to ever let that happen. I would pay money to see how the conversations went with him and Wilks after another W playing Wilks ball. Selling the team, he can then advertise it as another Dave victory with the $ he’ll make.

Tepper cares about people praising and worshipping him. Winning is just the mechanism for which that is supposed to occur. If winning did not achieve praise for him, he would be indifferent towards it. Egomaniacs are by rule insecure. To be laughed at and mocked will bring on a tantrum…

An opinion piece carries far more weight when it comes from someone whom has lived it. Cam has lived it. Olsen has lived it. SS89 has lived it. They have knowledge and experience that people respect. I think a lot of ‘journalists’ are jealous because a player’s take will always carry far more clout than theirs. The Cam ‘routes?’ Controversy exemplifies this. His incredulity was justifiable, but… insensitive… boo hoo. The outrage created by the media was because he took a shot at one of their own. Not bc she was a woman.

Etienne goes for a buck fiddy and 2 TDs. If we can get them off the field and Chark and Bryce continue their mojo, we could put up points again

Why does Burns get the ‘he doesn’t want to be here’ pass that excuses his abysmal play, but if he were a no name jag, people on this board would be calling for his head.

I never said we were good. Very far from it, but we do have winners. No one has yet to dispute anyone on my list. We do have lots of good players, but that in itself does not win games. Sniffrey listed 10 players. All good talent. I don’t agree with his placement, but 10 obviously talented players that would start on other teams. We have talent on this team, but holes at key places and depth issues.

Here’s another good vibe thread. No knockers allowed. Yes, too long to read blah blah. You’re spending Thursday afternoon on a message board. Do you seriously have anything better to do with your time? Yes, this Panthers team has talent. We can field an NFL caliber roster… and win, or at least showing we’re not that far from it. I’m not drunk on the hopeium, just buzzed. Yes, the top teams still exploit us, not denying that, but we do have guys that would upgrade other teams’ rosters… DUDES… something I didn’t think I would say when the season started. We have holes that you can fly a 747 through, but we do have quite a few good pieces. Rank: #1. And it’s not even arguable: His name rhymes with Frankie Luvu. A who is that turned in to a legit All Pro, and it’s a crime if he isn’t. Intelligent. Driven. Complete animal in every aspect of the game. Best who is that signing since Norwell. 2. Thielen: Yup. Another first down. Just throw it. I’ll catch it. Oh, there’s another first down. Pro bowl talent. 3. Brown. Pocket destroyer, run killer. Soon to be sack master and what Jenkins should have been. He’s just waiting for actual pass rushers to show up. All pro talent. 4. Horn: The man that is impossible to give up on. Legit HOF talent if he could only stay healthy. All pro talent. 5. Bryce: The last 2 games when we were down, he stepped up and made big plays at big times. Very well done young man. Impossible to say his ceiling at this point. 6. Hubbard: 2nd 10 is now 3rd and 2. You’re welcome. He has done this every game, all season. Fringe pro bowl potential, but probably not. 7. Chark: First game where I’ve seen one of our receivers be completely uncoverable since…? His ceiling is? A lot to still be seen, but that game was insane for him. DJ had some huge games for us, but I don’t remember a game where he showed me what I saw on Sunday (flame away). Every play he made was in good coverage but it didn’t seem to matter. When was the last ‘you can not cover my guy’ game that we’ve seen from an WR, and it was actually our guy. Good hands day Ginn? Pro bowl talent. Maybe more. Our depth is awful. We have some glaring talent and coaching holes (does the D line even have a coach?)… But we have gamers. Play makers. Please retain our core and don’t burn it down.

My view is that the team needs stability over anything else right now. Even if we miss out on the hot hires this cycle, there are new hot hires every season. If we finish out the season on an upswing but blow it all up again, we will be repeating the same mistake we made last season. If we would have signed Wilkes for a 1 or 2 year contract, signed Brown, Evero, and whomever else is responsible for our reincarnation, this year would have gone much better overall. Bryce wouldn’t have had his brains beat in all year and he could be much further along. I believe Wilkes would have objected to Young over Stroud, but he would have at least tried, unlike Frank. He definitely wouldn’t have tolerated the crap Burns has pulled. If Wilkes ends up being the one, then great. If it looks like we need to go another direction, at least we show potential candidates we’re not a complete clown show and land ourself an actual good coach for a change. Give the players, coaches and fans some stability.

5 new head coaches in 3 years is not a recipe of success.

So the fifth head coach in 3 years is something to get excited about? Complete clown show.

As awful as it sounds, our goal for next season needs to just be mediocre. Seriously. Just learn to win. Be stable. Get some good players via the draft. Reward the talent on our team that play like they actually enjoy the game. Get solid position coaching. Bring fans back to the stadium. If we continue an upward trend for this season, keep it intact for next season and see what we have. Nothing to lose. Don’t make the same mistake we did last season.

Bryce consistently made NFL caliber throws in to tight windows with confidence, with timing. It’s so completely different and unrecognizable from what we’ve seen up to this point. It was like trying to compare a kiwi fruit to a king cobra. I think the entire offense finally has a philosophy and identity that suits their talent. We finally saw Bryce throw on schedule with confidence. The receivers are talented. Chark and Thielen aren’t bums. This Sullivan cat… where did this guy come from? Practice squad call up? He’s got gamer vibes all day. When he’s open, He gets WIDE open. Mingo hasn’t shown me anything promising, Chuba now catching everything that comes his way. The receivers are talented. They are good players. Today was just different, and it built on some things we saw last week. Yesterday was a step in the right direction, regardless of who they played. I hope it continues.

I’m rewatching the game right now and loving what I’m seeing. Things I confidently stated that he was not capable of… absolutely could not do… got smoked. Thank you Bryce. I have wanted so badly wanted to be wrong about what you can do. I am. What you are, is still yet to be seen. Homie’s footwork. Stepping in to throws and rotating his hips and shoulders. Timing. HE THREW DARTS, with CONFIDENCE in to the MIDDLE OF THE FIELD. I saw an NFL arm. Whomever has coached this in to him deserves a king’s ransom. He gets the piss knocked out of him and pops up like he’s agent89… but we’ve known that. Bryce, thank you for proving me that I don’t know sh+* from shinola, and I’m going to shut my pie hole from now on knocking what you CAN DO. Now go prove me wrong on what you ARE.

Burns did his best Brian Burns impersonation yesterday. If I didn’t know any better, I’d swear it was the same guy.

The stench of Reich wafted over the entire franchise. He never cared and didn’t try. The other coaches got no direction. There was no team. It never felt like a team. Today was different. It felt like some sort of cohesion occurred. leave it alone. Let the players get used to something. Give prove it short deals to the coaches. If they continue to play hard to finish the season… what is there to lose? If anything, play hard, win some games, show some stability and give a high end coaching prospect a reason to want to come here next year. Don’t let the players feel like they got screwed out of another coach they like.

He played winner football yesterday. There was finally rhythm and timing with much less off schedule stuff. Throws came out right when you would expect them to. Chark was a stud. Thielen made the sickest one handed grab I’ve ever seen from someone in a Panthers uniform. Sorry Christian.

I’ve yet to see a single post where people hated Bryce the man. People have hated his game, but what is there that’s hatable about him? I’ve wanted him to prove me wrong. I’ve asked for it. Today was a good step. Keep it up young man.

Game manager is whatever anyone wants it to mean. To me, it has become a nice way to say they’re a tier B QB. They have some sort of intelligence and physical attributes where they can be pretty good or maybe even play great for a few seasons, until they regress back to winning 40-60% of their games. they win, but they’re not necessarily gamers. They need top level talent, especially a DUDE, to be successful. Be it either RB, WR, or TE. They’re 1 and done in the playoffs. They have ‘winability’ until the national audience tunes in. C league are career backups, usually because of the mental side, but sometimes physical. They have some tools , but always a glaring weakness which is their demise in critical moments. They’ll beat a few bad teams on your schedule and crash message board servers. A players are always a threat regardless of who is around them. They make all pro even if their team sucks. They make borderline practice squad players look like 2nd rounders and get them PAID on contract #2. Nobody takes a play off due to this reason.

‘Accountable’ is such a horrible buzz word that’s throw around that sounds powerful, but no one can really discern just what the hell it truly means, or what the implied action is. it’s almost as bad as ‘we need to have a conversation.’

No worries man. I enjoyed the talk. Go Panthers.