Gapanthersfan

Guys who are not driven for football greatness frequently check out after their big payday comes. They have elite ability which carried them. But They are not true leaders. Losing is ok as long as ‘I got mine.’ It only takes signing one of these dudes to cost a GM and coach their jobs. Robert Hunt plays like he’s still in college. Horn plays like he’s still in college. Chuba plays like he’s still in college. Brown, same thing. Losing is not ok, especially to these dudes. attitude is infectious; it goes both ways. It also helps that all 3 are top 5 in the NFL at their respective positions (who would have thought?). They walk the walk. This is the core that grooms the rookies on ‘how to be a professional.’ This is our nucleus. This is also why we have to retain Horn. Dan is building a nucleus. Guys like this don’t just come along and happen in to your lap every day. He is building a team in his image. Previously, we’ve overdrafted tweeners based off combine results and signed oft injured big name has beens who look at us as a retirement home. Dan is bringing in and retaining true football players. Finally we can have something nice… hopefully. Dan didn’t just bring in a guard. He brought in Robert Hunt. Bad M’fer.

Hunt is enormous, in more ways than one, but it’s Mills and Jake. Mills embodied what it meant to be a Carolina Panther. Keep Pounding. 2 words. Uniquely ours. Jake started the 2003 season by coming off the bench against the Jags after halftime down 17… and won the game with a no time left back of the end zone pass to Proehl… IMHO one of the most important games in Panthers history. He finished the season by piloting a 4th quarter comeback in the Panthers first ever superbowl, down 2 scores… against the GOAT. Think about that. We had a team that went toe to toe in the Super Bowl with what is arguably the greatest NFL dynasty of all time. Sorry for the thread derail

OMG! Best mic’ed up I’ve ever seen. Leadership, y’all. That’s what a man who hates losing with every fiber of his being looks like. Worth every penny. I see what you did there, Dan.

If they were sold on him and really wanted him to be the starter then they would have already said so. Remember, these dudes have a paycheck wrapped up in winning football games. It’s also become evident that we have a lot of dudes not ok with losing. Andy is going to get healthy eventually and everyone knows he’s 10x the qb BY will ever be. Name BY the new starter… naw dog.

Irish, huh. Well done young man. He’ll be coming with badder intentions

You hit on a biggie. Development of the younger talent. Andy does this in spades. Getting a tempo for the game. Rhythm. The offense is showing completion sans a franchise QB.

Bryce is such an albatross and It feels like I’m sitting in the ‘light is both a ray and a particle’ college physics lecture once again. Like that lecture (Ha! I still made an A, Dr Muir) … can’t figure this ish out. If Andy had another year on his deal then it’s easy. I love me some Andy, even through his rough couple games. How expensive is he going to be is the question. Can we sign both him and Horn? What is the 5th year or tag hit? If not Andy or Bryce, then who? Literally, ANYBODY is better than Bryce, but he would have to be traded with his cap hit. Right? Maybe this is the dog and pony show for a team wanting a project? I don’t want him here any more but the problem of what to do with Horn looms large.

Bring in a physical specimen who dropped in the draft because he has coachable deficits and/or went to a smaller school and is an unknown. Put him behind a line where he knows his life is safe and give him a pair of game breaker RBs and WRs. Let Andy walk and have Bryce as our bridge.

Our big $$ guards brought stability, but they also brought in good veteran leadershipwho can mentor the rest of the lineman on the correct way to do things. Huge. Can not overstate this. ‘Here’s how you become good’ type guys. When he does X, you do Y. dudes who are not ok with losing.

MANY years. This season is becoming a ‘I see what you did’ there vindication on Dan Morgan. Fitt must of made him want to pull his hair out. I bet they didn’t get along too well. This is what franchise building is supposed to look like.

it’s complete speculation from me, of course, but we’re going to have to put a Brinks truck in Jaycee’s driveway. I was, and still am, concerned that he’ll want to go to a contender. Can’t really blame him, but you have to think Morgan loves the dude. I just don’t see how they can sign a top CB and QB right now. I could see them putting the option on Horn… or, they have no intention of keeping Andy and can go full on trying to extend Horn since Bryce has now shown the ability to at least complete a pass. They may be cool with rolling him in to next season as the new bridge QB. Draft a flier QB that has all the physical tools and let him and Bryce compete in camp. So Sanders, Thielen, Dalton and please God Thomas gone. Welcome back Jaycee.

The difference would be analogous to comparing the economies of Guam to California. We have to resign Horn. This franchise has waited decades for someone like him. He is better than Gamble. His dad has probably groomed him for this since he was a kid. Joe Horn was no slouch. Jaycee talks the talk and walks the walk. He’ll jaw with Payton. He’ll rush the field and bow up with a lineman to protect his teammates. Nabers who? 50 yards on the day. No TDs. Can this team handle signing both Andy and possibly the best CB in the league in the same year? Do we option Horn? If the team knows that Andy is gone, do they continue with Bryce for now so he can improve? It’s an odd situation we find ourselves in.

I have always wanted Bryce to prove me wrong. I’ve never hoped for his demise. I said it in another thread: He is our very expensive bridge QB who has now made Dalton expendable. He CAN at least throw some passes, and a good amount of his throws have been on point. My main interest is seeing our line and new pass catchers evolve. Coker, X, and Sanders have shown real talent and it can’t be allowed to get stale. Let him and Thielen walk. Plummer is backup QB. We now have the capital to sign Horn.

My thought at this time: Bryce is now our(overpriced) bridge QB. He could surpass this label (yeah,no) but it’s a huge upgrade from fringe practice squad fodder that he showed up until last week. If he keeps this level of play up, Andy is now expendable at the end of the season and we can focus on resigning Horn. The haul of Coker, Sanders and X. If all three end up as legit starting NFL players… along with all the other starters Dan found this offseason… and having built a top 5 o line… Crown him. Those 3 doing what they’re doing now also makes Thielen expendable as well. This positivity is sparked after having beat the 2 worst teams in the NFL, so I’m trying to remain guarded.

It feels good to be able to name more than 3 players. Coker who? Seriously? Dude has the it factor in spades. Drive killing drive in the second quarter really hurt though. Legette knows how to get really wide open. Needs hands. Badly. Bryce played turnover free ball again. He’s a rhythm guy and the drops really threw him off. I like that he will take the shots. Chuba is Chuba. He’s our Chubb. Just off by 1 letter. Baller. my guy of the game: JC Horn. I said it in the game thread. Heart of a lion. Dude sprinted on the field and bucked up to a lineman on the unsportsmanlike play. That told me everything I needed to know. He is HIM. Unquestioned leader on the D with the play to back it up.

Why does this game make me think of the movie Beerfeast? Das boot!!! Someone get these guys a jar of goat pis*.

Fair being fair. Bryce has played clean football thus far. Coker is young, but he’s gotta make that catch. It changed the complexion of the half.

Horn has the heart of a damn lion. A cornerback booking it over to back his boys?! Say what you will about ‘smart’ football… we’re a 2 win team, y’all. Right now, building a team culture and attitude trumps everything. It is now ABUNDANTLY clear who the leader of our defense truly is.

I just rewatched. He was the second player to get there from the sideline.

I love Horn, y’all. That’s my dude. Sign him, Dan.

Coker is THAT DUDE. Dan, for real?

Bryce stat line today: 305 yds, 3 TDs, 3 picks. Hey why not? I was 5 yards off last week.

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I’m expecting an ATL like game from Brian. He has shown he can turn it on when he wants.

Luke trained every day in the offseason. 88 and 58 showed him. You hear it time and time again from our greats in how this person showed how to be a Professional.’ He even said as much in his Dale Jr. interview. He made time to fish and hunt but he ate, slept and dreamed football. I don’t know why it took Andy. Hell, it might be that Andy is the only one who has been nice to him. encouraging. I can see legitimacy in an argument that the team rejected him from the beginning. Rag me, but there may be something to that, or maybe he got on some meds, or had his changed around some. The right head meds can turn someone’s life around. Watching that dude walk the sidelines, slapping hands with teammates… it was very different. Does he have ‘it’. I’ve yet to see it. 98% sure that’s gonna be a no from me, dawg.