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BPA in the first round gives the best chance of getting a potential all pro player. All pro players, regardless of the position they play, elevate the entire team. Weak on d line? An all pro safety and LB will completely change the complexion. Weak at RB and WR. All pro center. Boom. Top 10 running game and a QB that keeps the chains going. Draft out of need is an over-reach the majority of the time. It doesn’t matter if you draft at a position you’re already strong at. Any all-pro player raises the play of the entire team. In the first round, it’s usually pretty damn obvious who that guy is, but this team’s kryptonite is the obvious guy. Hurney picked Kuechly when the team already had Jon Beason. How’d that work out?
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Because obvious picks are obvious picks. huddle: ‘who would the Steelers or Ravens pick right now?’ Panthers f/o: ‘Who would the Jags pick right now?’ It is truly pathetic, especially the whiffs in the early round picks.
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1. This new regime is allergic to choosing the obvious guy. 2. For all the talk, I see no dawg in XL. I see fringe #2/3 wr in the making. Elite #1s are hand catchers and have always been hand catchers. 3. She told me it was a big skin tag.
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Exactly
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Andy is good for Bryce, and was probably instrumental in his development. He is certainly the ONLY friend version 1.0 had in the entire state. He’s cheap, a mentor, and can at least still throw a good ball. He’s a backup, accepts the role, and has amassed valuable knowledge. Does anyone legit think that there will be ANY semblance of a QB competition come training camp? Bryce 2.0 is THE starter, unquestioned, at least through the end of next season. Bro hung a 40 burger, winning in OT, in the house where the Panthers, every season, invent new ways to lose. 2006 (tie, scored 44) and 1998 (scored 51) were the ONLY other games, in Panthers history, where this point total was either met or surpassed. Those squads were pretty stacked with Panthers’ all time offensive greats. Bryce’s team featured Chuba, 3 rookies, 2 veteran nobodies at TE, and Thielen. His previous visit to the dome… he got smashed, embarrassed, and looked like he had no business playing a grown ass man’s game. As abysmal as the team was last season, that game was arguably the best win the Panthers have ever had in the dome. If someone else could have done it, it would have been done many times over by now, but it hasn’t been. I’m no Bryce homer and dished dirt on his game like few others, but you can’t just fade that off as a nothing. It was significant, and only the stiffest detractors feel otherwise. There is no QB competition.
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Is running back on the table for the panthers this draft?
Gapanthersfan replied to micnificent28's topic in Carolina Panthers
I know it has to be difficult on Dan, especially with an owner like tepp, to convince him to take, ‘yes Mr Tepper, we’re picking another lineman.’ ‘No,no sir, yes I realize X has a big upside, but sir, we’re really thin along both lines. It’s how you win footba…’ And with the 8th pick in the 2025 NFL draft, the Carolina Panthers select blah blah blah, WR, out of tank your roster U. Every team will be thin somewhere. I would MUCH rather run thin at RB or WR than ANY position on the lines. Consistently good teams have depth on lines. Teams like the panthers keep a ‘good enough’ approach, with the o line, especially. Put some decent line starters out there, call it done, then blow high draft picks with raw skill position guys with a supposed high ceiling… Picks that owners love. Draws crowds at training camp. Not many people flock to see the first round center in action. … then a tackle and guard go down for 3 weeks, and by week 6 you lose another starter for the season…. and it’s back to being a dumpster fire again, while fans clamor on about how this team can never build a good o line. Pay attention to teams that win championships. Their line is NEVER good enough. They Always reload. If too deep at a position, trade them for high draft capital to a sorry ass desperate organization who always feels like they are ‘just a couple pieces away’ … when in actuality, they’re only a couple key injuries from being a 4 win team. Sounds familiar. I’ve said it in a couple other threads, obvious homerism aside, when in doubt just pick a lineman from UGA or Bama, or any of the other big boy schools. What is the percentage of early pick Bama and UGA linemen that are complete flops? How many UGA and Bama players just played in the SB? This past season would have been COMPLETELY different had this team not completely whiffed on the first 2 rounds. they did. First and second round picks are supposed to have the current starters looking in the help wanted pages. They are expected to come in compete for starting roles from day one. Any other talk is placating what was a flat out bad pick. Building teams are not allowed to whiff on first and second rounders. Period. Get lineman from big boy schools and reap the rewards. With this draft, I want the 5th round edge player they get to realize he’s the THIRD DE this team just took with their first 5 picks, and that he may be a long shot to even make the team, unless he really shows out. Only way I want to see an RB is if they scoop up an undrafted mauler. I wouldn’t even care if he had hands like tennis rackets. I want a sledge hammer. An early round skill position for this team is parking a Range Rover in front of double wide trailer. -
The lines are never good enough. That has to be the mentality. LT is one of the most expensive positions on the team. Take an LT in the draft if he’s legit BPA. Ickey is coming up due to get PAID, regardless of how this next season pans out. You hope he becomes the pass blocker the team needs, but what if he’s not. He is not going to want anything other than franchise LT money. I agree with swinging him to RT, but can this team afford to pay a RT LT money? Now, if they go LT in round 1 who is the clear successor, deal Ickey and have another LT on the cheap for the next 5 years. Use that $ to pick up a premium pass rusher
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Panthers Blueprint: Offensive Line
Gapanthersfan replied to Candler Cat's topic in Carolina Panthers
When in doubt, pick a lineman from UGA or Bama. At worst, you’ve added quality depth. -
And that’s just it, literally NOBODY was talking about Cam in the media when he came out and said what he said. There was no need to remind everyone of his personal greatness and double down by calling his teammates losers. Why feel the need to knock others to elevate yourself? I don’t think Cam knows what to do without the limelight and attention, be it positive or negative. He is confirming, and even admitting to the negative personality traits that he has been accused of. Whatever slim chance he may of had at Canton is pretty much dead now. The respect of his teammates, he just shot to all hell, so the MVP award that he holds in highest regard may be all he’s got left.
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And even if they were ass, you still never say that. That team delivered his ass his 2015 MVP. To take what he said and purposely distort and obfuscate it in to a ‘here’s what he meant to say’ is 100% dishonest and gas lighting down to the core. He meant exactly what he said. If his media popularity is worth more to him than the love and respect of his teammates who played their guts out for him Damn bro, no body wants to know that side of you truly does exist.
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When in doubt of who to draft, take a lineman from UGA or Alabama. At worst you’re getting serviceable depth. It’s almost always a sure thing.
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I’m glad someone said it. He’s a Russell Wilson, except Wilson came across less arrogant. He’s nothing more, nothing less. Really good QB. Going to the HOF. GOAT chaser? Yeah, no. Even prime Rogers >>> than Mahomes. comparing him to the true goat? That’s a laugher. Brady is in the argument for the most clutch athlete of all time.
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So yeah, priority has to be to get Bryce more weapons, of course, right? It’s all about defense. Always has been, always will be. I hope Tep is paying attention tonight.
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Everyone Pushing to Draft Yet Another WR Early
Gapanthersfan replied to RumHam's topic in Carolina Panthers
This team closed the season out with a 40 burger in our biggest rival’s house in a game that did matter to them. They were able to keep pace with the chiefs and eagles. Why everyone has such an obsession with having our own Justin Jefferson I’ll never know. -
Anyone left who does not believe in Bryce ?
Gapanthersfan replied to Frank9999's topic in Carolina Panthers
Homeboy finished the season in our arch rival’s house… the place that he was straight embarrassed to start his NFL career… the place where the panthers invent a new way to lose each time… kryptonite central… and dropped a 40 burger on them, while Leading the game winning drive in OT. I’m on record as one of the biggest Bryce doubters around, but damn. The clutch throw after throw after throw… It glitters, but it’s so hard to feel like this team finally has something nice. Is this gold? The 3rd and 4th down conversions he has dropped dimes on lately feel so uncomfortable, because I’m so conditioned to the QB, WR or both f-ing it up and we gotta punt. 3rd and 8? 4th and 5? Guaranteed punt… but they haven’t been…. Against the 2 teams that are about to play in the SB. It’s weird. Really weird. It feels flukey, but they keep happening. 44 in the kryptonite dome leading an OT drive FTW that handed the bird a losing season… Im firmly on the wagon until proven otherwise, and that feels almost nauseating to admit.