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Of the candidates left, I think Steichen is my preferred option at this point, but I think after some consideration I'd prefer Moore to Kafka and Dorsey due to his playcalling experience. I'd be happy with Payton too if that's how it shakes out.

You technically can once that year's draft starts. So for example, in 2020, you could only trade picks in the 20, 21, and 22 drafts before the beginning of the draft, but once the Bengals were on the clock, the 23 picks come into play.

Think the ship has sailed there honestly. He can't interview with us until next Monday and I think Tepper's going to have narrowed down his list by then. edit: this tweet around the interview process could be useful to add to the OP

Small correction to the recap, but Caldwell was actually the first interview the Monday after the season ended. Believe Wilks went the day after.

Coach salary doesn't matter, comes out of Tepper's pocket and it's not like it affects the salary cap. $20 million is high, but it's not insane compared to other top coaches. Belichick makes $20m, Carroll $15m, McVay $14m, etc.

From Person’s latest on The Athletic: Even before the pause in the search, it seemed Tepper was determined to conduct a more thorough search than he did when hiring Rhule, one of only four candidates to interview after Ron Rivera was fired. To that end, Tepper and his search committee — which includes Nicole Tepper, Fitterer, assistant GM Dan Morgan and vice president of football administration Samir Suleiman — have indicated to at least one candidate they plan to interview a group of finalists. But whether the Panthers conduct another round of interviews has not been determined yet, according to a source with knowledge of this situation.

I'm assuming it's probably easier/more flight options for Payton to fly from LA into NYC than to CLT and it's a short trip for Tepper and co anyway. They could potentially have conducted the interview at the league offices which are located on 345 Park Ave in NYC.

My personal predictions as of 1/23: Panthers: Steichen or Payton Broncos: Quinn or Payton Texans: Gannon or Ryans Cardinals: Flores or Reich Colts: Saturday or Bieniemy

Think the Panthers definitely have a comparable, if not better, roster than the Giants do.

Steichen had a virtual interview on Sat, 1/14. Assuming we schedule second round interviews with finalists, he can't be interviewed until next Monday, 1/30 following the conclusion of the conference championship games.

Yes, just announced they completed the interview https://www.panthers.com/news/panthers-head-coach-interview-tracker-2023-candidates

Nah, I think most are interested in either Payton or coaches who were (until yesterday) still in the playoffs and couldn't be interviewed for a second round yet. Houston: Rumor is they're after either Gannon or Ryans, both still in playoffs and can't do 2nd interviews until 1/30 Arizona: Wanted to settle their GM search first; interviewing Flores today and Payton on Thursday Denver: Likely to be either Payton or Quinn - Quinn didn't interview until last Friday and Broncos in process of setting up their second round with their finalists Indianapolis: Who fuging knows lol

I think part of it is also getting a deal you're happy with but making sure you're sending the player to a good situation as well. I'm sure it won't be lost on his agent that we could've sent him to the Rams but sent him to a contender instead. Maybe they'll steer some players we're interested in our way.

Tweet seemed more like his opinion rather than any sort of report. I agree though, if we hire any of those three, I'd probably be ok with Kafka but underwhelmed.

I think it depends on who they're able to draft/augment that WR room with. As of now, I'd lean towards our WR room over theirs, but obviously that's subject to FA/draft. If we hit on QB and coach, I could see our WRs doing quite well. I also think we're likely to upgrade at TE either thru FA or the draft. I would love signing an Evan Engram or Austin Hooper and drafting an explosive slot WR like Josh Downs or Zay Flowers with 39 if one of the two are there.

That's an argument you'd lose IMO at least on the WR front. Their leading WR had 164 less yards than DJ, and their #2 WR had 79 more yards total in 3 more games than Marshall. TEs they were similar. 400 total receiving yards and 2 TDs from their TEs whereas Tremble and Thomas combined for 391 receiving yards and 3 TDs.

No, I don't think Howell or Corral are as good as either of those two, but in the end we'll have to see how the coming season plays out. In any case, it's a moot point for this thread. If Maye and Williams are going to be as good as you think they are, and the Panthers (barring a massive trade up) are in position to get one of the two, then they'll have made another horrendous head coaching hire anyway.

Are you intentionally misquoting the CBS article? It clearly says "being discussed as better" and the whole article is talking about the dangers of "waiting for next year's QB class". And again, no quotes from specific NFL scouts or mention of Luck and/or Lawrence as you keep espousing. Jordan Plamer is not an NFL scout. You asked me for NFL scouts not media analysts so I'm just asking you for the same bud.

1. These are not NFL scouts - I showed you Todd McShay and you laughed me off. 2. Not one mention of Luck or Lawrence in either of the two articles you linked. BTW, I'm a UNC alum and fan, and I love Maye. I think he's going to be great and would love to have him on the Panthers. Doesn't mean he or Caleb Williams is the next HoF QB.

Ok, let's turn it around on you then. Show me this. Find me the scouts that say this. Give me exact quotes from specific NFL personnel just like you're asking of me.

What does this even mean lol? You want me to find you a currently employed NFL scout that liked Howell and Corral going into 2022? How the fug would I even do that? To make you feel better, here's Todd McShay's first 2022 mock draft and where he had QBs slotted: 2. Kedon Slovis (lmao) 7. Sam Howell 11. Spencer Rattler 15. Malik Willis 16. Desmond Ridder https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/draft2022/insider/story/_/id/31383687/nfl-mock-draft-2022-todd-mcshay-early-predictions-all-32-first-round-picks-next-year-including-five-qbs

Take a look at the top 2 picks in this preseason 2022 mock draft: https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/nfl-mock-draft-2022

...you advocating to find the "next McVay" is also dealing in unicorns, is it not?