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I don't think we should've traded Moore, I was one of the ones hoping that Burns would've been the one in that deal rather than Moore. And actually we did pay Moore, we just then ended up shipping him off which was dumb. I don't really think Burns ever contributed to winning here - we should've taken that Rams deal and ran, but the FO at the time miscalculated. CMC I could see the rationale at the time, in hindsight what we got back wasn't great and compounded by the fact that we then ended up wasting those picks. But while he was great for the 9ers last year, his injury issues have flared up again and he's yet to play a snap this season.

Also if Brooks is the real deal, by the time he would need to be paid, Chuba's deal will be easily ready to be off the books. As most are saying, it's essentially a 2-year deal and then "we'll see."

If your metric is only pay players who are helping us win, then we should not have paid anyone over the past 7 years. That's not how this works. I'd argue Chuba over the past 2 seasons has been one of the only players that has directly contributed to the few wins we have managed.

In a vacuum I like the deal and think he's definitely earn it. I have a hard time squaring the extension with using a 2nd round pick to take the first RB off the board just 7 months ago though. Maybe Canales and Morgan see the 1-2 punch of Hubbard and Brooks as their version of Detroit's Montgomery/Gibbs combo though. I think Hubbard has shown he's a back in the same caliber as Montgomery, now it's up to Brooks to see if he can the type of dynamic threat Gibbs is.

Completely wrong. He's averaging 5ypc, if you take out his longest run this season, he's averaging 4.8ypc. He consistently gets at least 3-5 yards. He averages 1.9 yards after contact which is the same as Jahmyr Gibbs and Bijan Robinson and better than Saquon Barkley, Breece Hall, Joe Mixon, and Jonathan Taylor to name a few (among RBs with at least 100 carries this season). He's only been tackled for a loss on 7 of his 133 carries (5.2%) He's not a big play back with only 20 runs of 10+ yards. He's as consistent as it gets.

We’re paying $3m of it

I’m not gonna lie, this is a bad trade. It’s essentially a difference of 4-5 picks. Surely with all the WR-needy contenders we could’ve at least got a straight pick and not a swap. Smh.

Can probably get some decent day 3 picks for Diontae (Chiefs make sense IMO), Theilen, and Clowney (Lions make sense) from contenders. Maybe something like conditional 4th or 5th round picks that upgrade based on playing time/stats/team success. Can probably get a late-round pick swap for Miles Sanders. Getting the sense the Panthers are not playing Bryce so they can sucker some team into sending a conditional 3rd to them if/when a starting QB goes down. Not really sure who else is left that would garner any interest from teams.

I was somewhat optimistic coming into the season but things are looking pretty dire now. The schedule before the bye week was supposed to be the softer portion, now we're going into Denver against a great defense and a HC who'll be looking to embarrass the fug out of Tepper. Realistically looking at a 1-16 season if they can't get a win against the banged up Saints at home or vs the Giants in Munich. Post bye-week schedule: KC, TB, at PHI, DAL, AZ, at TB, at ATL...that's 1-6 at best and more likely 0-7.

If they don't fuging cut Ian Thomas' fat ass my god

fug it I’m in on Cam Ward

Barnwell's trade column today proposed the following Young trade to the Dolphins: Uh, yeah I'd take that deal right now.

I mean if the Panthers are 1-9/2-8 going into the bye week than there's really no reason not to - see if the break did Young any good and if not, can be clear eyed in knowing you gave an honest evaluation before deciding to move on. Only downside is if he's just as a bad that may torpedo any potential trade value from a team that thinks the situation was the problem rather than the player.

Just talking rush yards not total yards. He only needs 681 more rushing yards, assuming he averages at his career YPC rate, he only needs ~150 more carries this season to pass CMC.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Clowney gets traded to a contender by the deadline. Maybe Detroit given the injury to Hutchinson?

There were more penalties than you'd hope, but somewhat understandable given 2 new starters (although Icky can't seem to shake his false start issue). Probably the strongest collection of OL talent this franchise has had in years.

Xavier Woods is worthless. Can’t cover or tackle

The tackling has been pathetic during Evero’s entire stint as DC

Ian Thomas is a fuging thief

Side note - I hated the switch to the 3-4 defense. I don't think this team has ever fielded a worthwhile 3-4. Go back to 4-3 please.

So much this. I said in the game thread yesterday, but this is a desiccated husk of a franchise with a barren roster. Even when there are things to feel somewhat excited about such as Legette looking like an NFL WR last week or the OL being amazing, it's already destroyed just a week later by injuries (I'd be shocked if Corbett isn't done for the year with a torn biceps tendon). It's just a revolving door of faces with no real core in the roster or coaching staff worth building upon.

This franchise is a desiccated husk

There's just so many jags on this defense. Basically the entirety of the D except Horn (and even he's had some bad moments) are replacement level or worse.

The list is only players that are in the last year of their contract

If you can get a conditional 3rd that upgrades to a 2nd based on some achievable incentives from a desperate Miami team, take it and run. He may be serviceable in that offense but he's not a difference maker and won't ever be in Carolina.