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You keep assuming we're not going to take a RB in this draft tho? This 1-year, $2.75m deal does not preclude the FO from drafting a back.

They gave Javonte Williams almost the exact same deal we gave Dowdle. Dowdle is undoubtedly better.

$2.75m base value per Joe Person

It's 1 year, $3m incentive laden deal for a pretty decent vet back. Not sure why you think it's so bad. Doesn't preclude getting a mid-round RB, but clearly they want some experience behind Chubba given Brooks injury, Miles being cut, and likely not retaining Blackshear.

Not yet, but given it's worth "up to $6.25m", I'm assuming the gtd $ is less...he probably got whatever we were offering Miles as a pay cut.

Per Mike Kaye

Per the interweb

Highest paid DB in history after one healthy season makes me nervous af. But I guess that's the cost of doing business and Horn leveraged his contract status coming off his best season.

3 mistakes on that last drive - Chisena not going down in bounds after coverting the 3rd down, Bryce with the bad miss to Chisena that would’ve salted the game, and Canales keeping 3 TOs in his pocket instead of leaving the offense on the field to see if you could draw the Cards offside before taking a TO to avoid the delay. He’s a young coach who’s had some poor game management decisions, luckily got the W today and hopefully will spend a good portion of the offseason focused on improving in that area.

It definitely did

Dude has bricks for hands

I would be thrilled with one of McMillan, Carter, or Graham. Think we will get a real difference maker as long as we are picking somewhere around 4-7 or so.

Obviously this is small sample size and I still think Stroud should've been the pick, but pretty remarkable how similarly the two have been performing since Bryce was inserted back as the starting QB. Here are their combined stats over the past 6 weeks (starting with Bryce's first start at Denver): Young: 102/169 (60.3%), 1,082 yards (6.4 YPA), 6 TDs, 3 INTs, 15 carries, 82 yards (5.5 YPC), 1 rush TD, 83.5 QB rating (taken 7 sacks) Stroud: 120/201 (59.7%), 1,454 yards (7.2 YPA), 5 TDs, 4 INTs, 21 carries, 105 yards (5.0 YPC), 81.2 QB rating (taken 21 sacks)

In a vacuum I like the deal and think he's definitely earn it. I have a hard time squaring the extension with using a 2nd round pick to take the first RB off the board just 7 months ago though. Maybe Canales and Morgan see the 1-2 punch of Hubbard and Brooks as their version of Detroit's Montgomery/Gibbs combo though. I think Hubbard has shown he's a back in the same caliber as Montgomery, now it's up to Brooks to see if he can the type of dynamic threat Gibbs is.

Completely wrong. He's averaging 5ypc, if you take out his longest run this season, he's averaging 4.8ypc. He consistently gets at least 3-5 yards. He averages 1.9 yards after contact which is the same as Jahmyr Gibbs and Bijan Robinson and better than Saquon Barkley, Breece Hall, Joe Mixon, and Jonathan Taylor to name a few (among RBs with at least 100 carries this season). He's only been tackled for a loss on 7 of his 133 carries (5.2%) He's not a big play back with only 20 runs of 10+ yards. He's as consistent as it gets.

We’re paying $3m of it

I’m not gonna lie, this is a bad trade. It’s essentially a difference of 4-5 picks. Surely with all the WR-needy contenders we could’ve at least got a straight pick and not a swap. Smh.

Can probably get some decent day 3 picks for Diontae (Chiefs make sense IMO), Theilen, and Clowney (Lions make sense) from contenders. Maybe something like conditional 4th or 5th round picks that upgrade based on playing time/stats/team success. Can probably get a late-round pick swap for Miles Sanders. Getting the sense the Panthers are not playing Bryce so they can sucker some team into sending a conditional 3rd to them if/when a starting QB goes down. Not really sure who else is left that would garner any interest from teams.

I was somewhat optimistic coming into the season but things are looking pretty dire now. The schedule before the bye week was supposed to be the softer portion, now we're going into Denver against a great defense and a HC who'll be looking to embarrass the fug out of Tepper. Realistically looking at a 1-16 season if they can't get a win against the banged up Saints at home or vs the Giants in Munich. Post bye-week schedule: KC, TB, at PHI, DAL, AZ, at TB, at ATL...that's 1-6 at best and more likely 0-7.

If they don't fuging cut Ian Thomas' fat ass my god

fug it I’m in on Cam Ward

Barnwell's trade column today proposed the following Young trade to the Dolphins: Uh, yeah I'd take that deal right now.

I mean if the Panthers are 1-9/2-8 going into the bye week than there's really no reason not to - see if the break did Young any good and if not, can be clear eyed in knowing you gave an honest evaluation before deciding to move on. Only downside is if he's just as a bad that may torpedo any potential trade value from a team that thinks the situation was the problem rather than the player.

Just talking rush yards not total yards. He only needs 681 more rushing yards, assuming he averages at his career YPC rate, he only needs ~150 more carries this season to pass CMC.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Clowney gets traded to a contender by the deadline. Maybe Detroit given the injury to Hutchinson?