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This is hard to forget. Was super embarrassing at the time.
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I would rather have Clowney here, he's significantly better against the run. Burns isn't terrific at it and having two guys here that struggle in the run game holding down the edges screams disaster.
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It’s not going to be cheap to retain Derrick Big Baby Brown
Varking replied to TheBigKat's topic in Carolina Panthers
Brother, I didn’t say he didn’t provide pressures. But there are other guys who got double teamed and got sacks still. And it does not excuse the fact that Brown doesn’t have a single forced fumble in the NFL. I love the kid. I was happy with the pick and I was one of the few posters here talking about giving him time to develop during a not so impressive rookie season. He isn’t going to get and isn’t deserving enough of the money shared in the OP. -
Because their offense and defense were better in Philly. Their dline caused a lot of quick transitions back to the offensive side of the ball and their offense was filled with studs to get them to the red zone. There’s significantly more question marks here. We scored 347 to their 477. Their defense got 10 takeaways more than us last year. That’s a lot more having the ball and a lot more scoring.
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Awareness is supposed to be worth a lot. I expect BYoung around a 77-78 to start. The thing folks were worried about in terms of his ability to take hits in the NFL doesn’t really help or hurt the overall rating much in Madden, at least in years past.
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It’s not going to be cheap to retain Derrick Big Baby Brown
Varking replied to TheBigKat's topic in Carolina Panthers
Brown won’t get near that contract because of his lack of sacks. And he has never been that guy, even in college. He was a 3-4 sacks a year kind of guy in college playing against much lesser competition in relation to the talent around him. Brown also accounts for 0 forced fumbles through 3 NFL seasons. -
Anybody else think we are putting to much on Bryce's plate?
Varking replied to DennisM1's topic in Carolina Panthers
Not at all. Everything we heard about the kid was that he’s basically a football god in terms of IQ. The coaches aren’t going to see him struggle with the playbook and protections and then be like “ we should add more while he is falling behind! “, they are only going to give him more once they feel he’s up for it. This is a very veteran coaching staff and you have to trust their years of doing this. -
I wouldn’t agree with the term hoodwinked but we for sure look odd for locking in Sanders for 4 years after his first season hitting 1k yards in Philly on a team with a true #1 WR and good TE, plus good WR2 and 3 on the team, plus a good offensive line with an MVP level QB performance. What makes Miles Sander worth the sign? The guy we had averaged 4.5 yards per carry and Sanders is coming in at 4.9. Foreman’s averages went UP with an increased workload. Sanders averages went DOWN. Foreman is just a 3 million dollar commitment. He is 27. Sanders is 26. We have a history of spending at this position where it would make other teams scratch their heads when we paid DWill and JStew at the same time, then we got out of those and decided to pony up and pay CMC and now we locked in Sanders to a four year deal when the league is trending towards drafting RBs in rounds 2-5 and getting major production and letting them walk away after their rookie contract to go to another team. In my opinion, we would be better off just drafting running backs in a 2-5 every 2-3 years and rolling with them unless we get somebody “generational”. Miles Sanders had 3 100-yard games last year. He had 7 games under 50 yards of rushing last year. Foreman had 5 100 yard rushing games and he basically didn’t play until week 7. From week 7 to 17 Foreman averaged 80 rushing yards per game. Sanders averaged 75 rushing yards per game. Sanders averaged 75.7 during his first 10 games. He averaged 66 yards a game rushing during his second half of 10 games. We could have kept the guy we had, saved money, not had a RB locked in even at 6 million a year for the next four years which would have given Bryce a vet in year 1 and then we would have nothing big financially tied to a RB on a second contract and been smart. It isn’t a BAD signing by any means and fingers crossed he elevates his game a bit to help the young kid out at QB I can just understand where the argument comes from in relation to what other RBs got this offseason in comparison.
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This is all good news. Also, I am sure if you look around the league every team has at least one pass batted down at the line of scrimmage per practice, if not more.
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They give them out every two weeks. Next time I get one I’ll try and remember to come back here.
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For those of you on BlueSky social network I’m looking to follow more accounts. Here is my link: https://bsky.app/profile/varking.bsky.social If you have one, drop your link below and I’ll follow ya.
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Apple TV+ puts out some of the best stuff on tv. It reminds me of old HBO. Tetris surprised me as well.
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At this point in time, who feels like we lost this trade?
Varking replied to WarPanthers89's topic in Carolina Panthers
I would argue that no #1 pick at QB has ever come into a better situation. A lot of folks here felt like any guy we picked would succeed because of the staff and team we have around them. There is absolutely no reason we shouldn’t finish above .500 this year, rookie lumps and all. -
At this point in time, who feels like we lost this trade?
Varking replied to WarPanthers89's topic in Carolina Panthers
I don’t understand how we can win or lose a trade before any games are played. This is the time of year where everyone says everything is going perfect with their teams or looking up and all things are going well. Wait until bullets are flying. How can we even tell today if we will miss our first round pick next year? Right now we are happy with the trade and they are happy with the trade. Hopefully it works out for both teams. -
I just don’t agree with their opinion metric for what is considered win-rate. Chicagos pass block win rate shouldn’t be that high. And while I like our line, ours isn’t on the same level as Philly like this shows.
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I believe this is on the right path. Here’s the other part of it: Justin Fields ran for his life out of necessity last season. The offensive line was atrocious. Turn on a Bears game and you can often find their line losing easily. The WRs aren’t open and the line isn’t holding, what do you do? Run or get demolished. Stroud is the statue QB in the pocket, Young is nowhere near the athlete Fields is to get away from those rushers and can he take the beating Fields had to?, Richardson and Levis likely weren’t looked at as upgrades. I am sure part of the process for Poles was debating if they went they could protect Bryce with the project offensive line they had in Chicago.
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I’d argue decision making already improved and should continue. He found out his line and his receivers were trash so he had to run a ton last year. And he increased completion rate, TDS passing and cut down on interception rate in year 2 as basically a rookie with a new head coach and new offensive coordinator with minimal talent around him year 2. This is the first year we should have a real read on Justin Fields.
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That’s a lot of give or take yards. Be bold in your prediction. Is it 800, 900 or 1k?
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It is an awesome time to be a Panther fan and I’m in a terrific mood. Let’s move on.
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The caveat of that conversation being the other user saying Bryce was the best QB in college. I pointed out he wasn’t. Maybe don’t show up to a conversation four days late or if you think Williams isn’t part of a valid discussion around who the best QB in college is, keep it moving rather than keep the conversation going. It’s hardly worship to say Williams is the best QB in college this past season. I have maybe 10 comments about Williams on this forum. Significantly less than other QB prospects. Worship would be closer to having a guy as your profile picture before we even draft him. Like you.
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It’s like people forget about prime examples of Teddy B locked onto some other WR while the forum screams how open DJ Moore is on the same play. Over and over. His stats should have been ever better here. But Carolina has spent too long with defensive minded head coaches to maximize our offensive talent. Rivera did nothing but let Cam be Superman which worked out just a few seasons out of 9 while he was here. I don’t know where folks ever got the idea that Rhule was an offensive minded head coach. In college his defense lead by Phil Snow was always ranked much much higher than his offense. I think in 7 years of college ball Rhule has a top 50 offense like 1 time in 7 years but had a top 50 defense like 6 times in 7 years. And again, people here point out where Burns ranks vs others his same age in sacks but ignore where DJ is in yards. Is DJ part of the problem he doesn’t score TDs? Sure. But PJ Walker, The Ghost of Cam Newton, Taylor H, Kyle A, Teddy B, Sam D and a beat up Baker Mayfield also isn’t a group that scores a lot of touchdowns. We will have a much better idea of what DJ Moore is with Luke Getsy calling plays in Chicago with Justin Fields. And for those who want to sling poo at Justin as a passer, he was basically just playing his real rookie year under competent coaching and threw for 17 TDS and a 60% completion mark with no weapons at WR. Both of those totals are better than what we did as a team last year and we had a better offensive group than Chicago. Kyle Allen in 2019 was the last Panther to throw for more than 15 TDS in a season. And we’ve had CMC you can dump off passes to. Again, for his age, in the NFL, DJ has been one of the most prolific WRs in NFL history and it’s lost on folks here and he’s still coming into his prime.
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The conversation you are quoting me from was not. It was about Bryce as a prospect in college the last few years. Somebody said he was the number 1 prospect two years in a row and I disagreed.
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Where has anybody here compared Moore to Justin Jefferson? And again, Jefferson and Theilen have had significant upgrades at QB over what DJ Moore has. Kirk gets a lot of hate but he’s put up numbers for years. I’m certain DJ would look significantly better with Kirk throwing him the ball.
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Bryce hasn’t taken a snap in the NFL either. The conversation was around best QB in college. It was Williams. I don’t “give a poo” about Williams anymore than any other college prospect. I’m just not going to put blinders on and lie to myself and pretend Young was better than he is.
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Y’all some haters lol. DJ for his age has like the third most receiving yards all time and he’s done it with absolute trash throwing in the ball and idiot coaches.