Varking

Are we looking to be the victims of something? This is what happens when your franchise has been around as long as us and has never even had winning back to back seasons. And we forget the good moments quickly. For weeks every time I turned on ESPN or NFL Network all I heard about was what an all star coaching staff the Carolina Panthers put together. Even now you can turn on a show and the media , when we were at 9, was talking about how we are an ideal landing spot for a young QB due to our offensive line, Moore, and our coaching staff. We don’t have tons of money right now to spend on free agents and you aren’t going to convince the best ones to come here to play with a rookie QB. Same with TE. We traded away our only good WR who has been consistent in his NFL career despite how many trash tier QBs have thrown him the ball. Draft a WR? Most non first rounders don’t put up monster stats year 1. Draft a TE? None of them put up stats outside of Kyle Pitts and there’s no Pitts in this class. We need to accept that we thought we might be a playoff team even with a rookie QB because of how bad our division is to we are probably still a middling team again. Atlanta could grab a QB and they’ll have London, Pitts and Patterson as weapons to help the kid out. Carr with Thomas , Kamara and Olave looks nice on paper. The Bucs look bad but a healthy Evans and Godwin are more than we can offer a young QB. And guess what? If we don’t surprise folks we are going to be picking in the top ten again next year…but the Bears will own our pick. So no shot at a Marvin Harrison JR. Its not a national media bias… we haven’t deserved the love. With Cam and Luke we had like 3 winning seasons in 9 years. For a QB and MLB who can take over games that’s not good enough.

He didn’t work out because he put on ten pounds of water weight to reach 200 pounds for the combine. Since it’s not his natural playing weight he didn’t want to participate in any drills because he wouldnt be as sharp. He knows if he showed up at 185 and balled out the questions about his size would still be there. But that’s why he stayed in sweats and wore shoes with four inch heels… so he wouldn’t look like kicker out there next to Levis, Stroud and Richardson. Id wager he does some of the drills at his pro day but doesn’t step on a skill to show his weight back down closer to 190.

He lost to LSU while going 25/51 passing. What are you talking about? Wins are a team stat, not a QB stat. Ken Dorsey won tons of games in college and a bunch of the guys he beat during college went on to have significantly better careers in the NFL than him.

No it doesn’t bother me how scripted the OSU offense was at times. Young’s teams and coaching staffs were better than Strouds. I’ve seen plays where Young has 6+ seconds to throw. Bama has much more talent on defense than OSU. Young has had bad games too. He sucked against Texas and didn’t compete half his throws against LSU. Again, it’s not his stats that bother me other than his frame. He won’t be able to take the same hits as the others. He’ll be the smallest QB in the NFL in terms of playing weight.

You have to understand that different folks will prioritize different things they want. Young is a great prospect. His playing weight is a big issue for me. He’ll likely play around 195 once the season starts. He’d be the smallest QB in the NFL by far and I don’t believe he’ll be able to withstand the hits year in and year out. It’s not bashing Young to point out areas of concern. I’m on record saying I’ll take any of the top 4 and shut up. We need to stop retreads. Stroud just concerns me the least.

So did Will Rogers.

I’m not asking us to draft Richardson. I’d wish you would stop putting that on me.

Been driving the bandwagon since October. Hop on.

The SEC is not the NFL. And he was coached by the best coach in the SEC and surrounded by the most or second most talented team in the SEC. Small is small. He’s small.

They aren’t going to make decisions based on what I think or what anyone here thinks.

According to me. I speak and type on behalf of my own personal opinion. Richardson and Levis did not look NFL ready at all this past season. They are the types I would worry need a year to sit and we don’t have anyone in front of them here worth starting over them. And guess what? Our pick next year belongs to Chicago. I’d hate to pick top ten again while Levis or Richardson learn and see that lock go somewhere else. I’d feel much better about Stroud starting day 1.

But this is why Chicago is either moving to Arlingten Heights to build a new stadium or they are partnering with the city of Chicago to build a dome.

Usually it’s folks who have a read on these things and have connections to teams. And you are correct in that I don’t know where the last two will go but it’s hard for me to believe they traded up to 1 to take the bigger risks in Levis or Richardson.

If the pick isn’t Stroud or Young I so t understand going to 1 to get them. Richardson and Levis we could have traded to 4 at worst to get our guy.

People keep saying it’s so easy to find good receivers now yet our team right now might have the worst WR room in the NFL at the moment. DJ was the only positive player in that group. If WR was as easy to scout as we think here on the message boards we would have had much more than DJ + nothing. We need to spend some draft capital and free agent money on WRs now to help out our rookie QB

How many QBs in modern football won a Super Bowl weighing less than 200 pounds?

These weights and heights aren’t all accurate. Young needs to put on weight to play in the NFL.

It’s a tweet by somebody who isn’t a Carolina Huddler. It’s not us overvaluing him.

I hope he is the pick and I think he can be.

Young is soft. He doesn’t weigh enough to last in the NFL. He’ll end up like Pat White. He’s the only one of the big four that didn’t partake at the combine. Why? Because he put on a bunch of water weight to weigh more but he knew he’d look bad in drills like that. I don’t care that he’s short. I don’t think he’ll take NFL hits.

If he were 220 maybe.

Look up my history. CJ has been the guy since October for me.

Dilfer? Foles?