Varking

AceBoogie absolutely disagrees and claims Bryce is playing well.

I’m just upset he’s looked the worst of the three first round rookie QBs. I’m not giving up on him. I want to win games. Once he’s back out there he’ll be cheered on by me. If he has a great performance I’ll support it and if he has a letdown I’ll be critical.

Either find the quote where I call him a bust or let it go. You can say how I cope with Panthers losing is weird or say I’m obsessed with another QB and that’s fine. But show me the quote where I called him a bust.

Yeah I thought it was funny because it’s an exaggeration. Can you explain to me where I called Bryce a bust?

I thought any QB of the top 3, Stroud, Richardson and Young, would have success here because of the pieces we had in place.

Where did I say Bryce isn’t/wont be a franchise QB? I’d list the differences in scenarios but I want to make sure I’m discussing something with somebody who wants an actual discussion and this isn’t pointless.

PFF graded Justin Fields higher than Jordan Love this week.

I dont think Fields is it anymore. Here he would have been coached by Rhule. However, giving Fields his three years to show if he can improve would have us still having DJ Moore and not lost those picks in the process. Instead of looking at Bryce or CJ or Richardson or Levis we would be looking at Caleb Williams or Drake Maye or whoever emerges at the 3 like Rattler or the kid from Duke.

He is strictly doing this off of Bryce Young's college tape at Alabama.

Here is the comparison: QB: Bryce Young ( first overall pick on a team that had the 9th overall pick ) vs CJ Stroud ( second overall pick on a team drafting 2nd overall ) = On paper Panthers favored. Higher rated QB drafted by team with much better record. RB: Miles Sanders 2022 stats 1269 yards, 4.9 a carry and 11 tds vs Dameon Pierce 2022 stats 939 yards, 4.3 a carry and 4 tds. = on paper Panthers favored. Sanders more bulk stats and better efficiency. WR: Theilen ( 711 yards and 6 TDs ) , TMJ ( 490 yards 0 TDs ) , Mingo drafted in the second round vs Collins ( 481 yards and 2 TDs ), Robert Woods ( 527 yards and 2 TDs ), Tank Dell drafted in the third round. = on paper Panthers favored. More yards and more TDs and a higher draft pick to pair with a higher draft picked QB. TE: Hurst ( 414 yards and 2 TDs ) vs Schultz ( 577 yards and 5 TDs ) = on paper TEXANS. Current score is Panthers 3 vs Texans 1. Offensive Line: I will do this basic Panthers Oline ( 36 sacks and 4.6 yards per carry ) vs Texans Oline ( 38 sacks and their run game averages 3.7 a carry ) = On paper a WASH but slight lean to Carolina who had a first round pick in this group who should be better in year 2. For what its worth, PFF rated Carolina as the 16th best offensive line in football last season. Houston ranked 25th. Non-Player Panthers hire offensive minded coach and create an "all star" coaching staff vs A defensive minded head coach getting a shot at the job for the first time. Before the season started and into the preseason all signs pointed to us being a better team than them.

The list for who would look better right now with the Dolphins at QB is significantly longer above Bryce than it is below Bryce.

The irony is if we had drafted Justin Fields we would know right now he ISNT our guy and we wouldn't have traded away our first rounder next year and DJ Moore to find out about a guy who is 5'8 180. I missed on Fields. I've been correct on everyone else I have backed. I have no problem admitting the truth. We would be in the running for Caleb Williams.

Starting to think Tepper cheated and rather than a ring to make up for it, she wanted a Football team.

So the Dolphins QB position would look good with 29 other starters?

Oh I thought Simms loved Bryce?

List the QBs that wouldn't be "deadly" on the Dolphins.

We would have to trade away Burns, Brown, Horn once he gets healthy and that is really all we can move that people might want. We messed up by trading away DJ Moore instead of Brown or Burns.

Correct. The threat of Tyreek Hill elevates those around him. But we can't dismiss Waddle's 1300 yards last season.

Tyreek and Waddle is like: Smith and Brown Higgins and Chase Like there isn't too many better 1-2 combos than that to throw the ball to. The Dolphins had the #4 passing offense in football last year. Those two receivers combined went over 3k yards last year. Mostert averaged 4.9 a carry last year and just under 900 yards. The backup averages 5.2. Their line is terrific.

I completely missed all this.

I was higher on Frank than I should have been.

Huddlers = manchildren for bumping "old ass threads" ( from this past offseason ) is worse than putting stock into a test before the kids play a snap in the NFL?

Just @ me next time, damn.

3 for CJ which was what the bump was for.

We were talking about the S2 score in another thread which spurred on finding this one. I think S2 in the title thread only revealed a handful of threads so it made it easy to find real fast. Finding other offseason hot takes would be harder.