Varking

Again, going to disagree respectfully. Not going to call you or your ideas stupid. Just going to say I disagree.

It’s about having more chances to get “your guy”. There’s no guarantee that he’s going to be a success but again… we were one pick away from Herbert and we heavily scouted him. We would be set at the QB position and could focus elsewhere. I also believe Okudah is going to be fine. He played this season on a horrible defense and when he played he was hurt. Imagine this year if 4 QBs go in the top of the draft before we pick. Then two years in a row we would have lost out on potential franchise QBs off a late season win. It’s pointless to argue about fans wanting C or Z player in the draft. Do you believe Brown was the Panthers guy this past draft? No. They settled for him because other guys like Burrow, Herbert and Chase Young were off the board. We need our franchise quarterback. We have sucked consistently for far too long.

Was just stating what the logic is.

I think there’s Pitts and then a big gap to Jordan and Friermuth and then an ever bigger gap to the next group.

The logic is higher draft picks so better chances to get your guys. One win could be the difference between drafting a DT in Brown or a stud QB in Herbert. One win could be the difference between drafting one of the big 4 QBs in this class and having to trade up and lose more picks just to get a QB because we won a literal meaningless game.

No Jones.

I would love it. But why would they do that deal?

You’re intentionally being difficult for the sake of arguing.

It’s prospect fatigue. People have been talking about him for years so they look harder for flaws. Same thing happened with Herbert. When you have these guys blow up for just one season you have less film to kill them for.

I’ll pass

I agree. This is a studly draft if we can pull this off and not lose any picks to move up. Not going to happen.

Much better than the mocks giving up multiple firsts.

I’d take it.

To me, Fields is BPA over Lance.

You and me both, brother!

I, personally, don’t think it’s a great idea to trade *our* first for him. However, he is likely worth that to a few other teams. He’s a really good player.

He’s talking about Parcells boxes for QB drafting. None of the QBs in the class checked all of them but Lawrence was the closest. Last year it was just two QBs.

I could see him panning out but I believe it’ll take years. He’s my worry with Lance as well though. That people are expecting him to come in year 1 and compete with Teddy and be ready to start year 2. I see him as a year 3 you can put him in the starting lineup and year 4 maybe he can take over games kind of player. He didn’t throw the ball in high school and spent just 1 of his three college years playing football that counts. He has the equivalent of 1 full season of throwing the ball over the last like 7 years. He will need plenty of time to adjust. The other side of the coin is if he can come in and pick things up quickly then maybe he is what people hoped the Cam Newtons of the NFL would be between running and passing.

He’s a good NFL player. If you’re hoping some rookie who has never taken a snap in the NFL is going to be as good as him, then just offer the pick for him. I’d rather have a known than an unknown. I wouldn’t offer a first but he’s worth trading for if it’s not first round picks they want.

And I mocked everyone wanting us to draft him. And I was a jerk for how I did it but I viewed him as the biggest boom or bust round 1 QB in years. He regressed too much from year 2 to year 3 for me.

If he had his rule as Herbert would have been the only day 1 QB he would draft and Hurts be the only day 2 that would have been really solid.

I wouldn’t trade up to 3 for Lance when I believe he will be there at 8.

I love it.

There is no next coming of Tom Brady.