CanadianCat

Panthers trade 8, 57, 74, 2026 2RD for Giants #3 overall and draft Abdul Carter. Thoughts?

Yeah its funny cause I watched this really pumped the breaks on Walker. But then I watched another mock and Walker is the 2nd coming of Parsons. So I dont know.. That said.. Mike Green anyone?

On the Blackmon bandwagon.

Im ok with this pick, but If Im the Panthers I would try to trade back a few picks as its assumed an o-line run is coming right after us. We might be able to trade back 3 picks, grade an additional 3rd round pick and still get our guy. I would be trilled for something like that.

Yeah he will be great.. but for a different team.

I know our coach EJ got a lot of hate last year but I think that the entire FO and owner knew that we were going to gut the defense to build the offence to see what we had in Young. That worked basically as expected. Terrible D but we found out that we can keep rolling with Young. I think that was clearly the discussion and understanding heading into last year and thats why EJ didnt get fired. IMO EJ is a good coach when he has players. I think we are going to see a dramatic turn around this year to the point that he once again, gets Head Coach interviews next offseason.

I dont hate the pick but would like to see it in a trade down. Honestly I think we are in a good spot to trade down as the run on OT's will start right after us, so we can get a team to jump a head of it and still get a player we want.

Will Johnson is starting to grow on me..

This is why people that were freaking out obviously just dont know how the financials work..

Knowing these deals where in the works, great job on getting it done earlier.

I would rather have Golden with a trade down than TMac at 8.

Sure you can say all those things but what is your solution? What would you have done?

I get that my example was not exhaustive of all the reasons, but it also is that simple (generally). Which is why some teams pay players years before the get to FA to save some money and bet that the player continues to develop. And I understand your point about Horn, but I dont think we are in a position to allow players of his caliber to leave. We had no succession plan for him. Had we let him go and Mike Jackson was our #1 corner on the team I might throw up. So we need to over pay to get some stability - and hope the injuries are behind us.

True. So you can say that he is not worth the money because he has missed a bunch of games - and thats a fair argument. But you can also say that when he is available he is 'one of' the best CB's in the league. But now you need to value that. I doubt that he takes a deal worth less then he did (obviously) so then you need to determine is the draft pick we are going to get back for him worth it. So you can do what we did, or you can trade the player, thereby making the defence worse, but you have most cap space sitting there. So on sundays when we are getting blown out, you can still feel good that we have a lot of cap space.

I think a lot of people dont actually understand the business of the NFL and thats clear when they say things like "he's only a top 15 player, why is he getting paid #1 money?!" Cause thats how it works.. If you are an elite player nearing Free Agency then you will get paid top of the market. Its literally that simple. You dont need to be the best to get paid the best. Its timing. If you dont understand that, then probably best to stay away from most business related discussions.

"One of" Yeah I think most people in the NFL would say that.

Im mean sure you can be smug about your answer, but you are only getting maybe a 2nd for him. Now you need to completely rebuild the entire secondary on top of the d-line. Yeah that sounds great.

Ok but is the alternative? He is not going to sign for a lesser contract, so then do you release him? We did that with Burns... see how that is working out. You can save the cap but you still need to replace the player. You can argue that we should have be preparing to replace Horn when his deal came up but we dealt those picks to get a QB. Im curious to know how you would have handled it differently..

Love the signing. Nice placeholder for Brooks.

Tremble needs to become this if he wants to stay in the NFL. Honestly he could be great in this role.

I feel like a lot of people here dont understand how the market works.. If you are top 10 in the NFL at your position and your contract is up for renewal you WILL become the #1 paid player... even if other rate higher than you. Wait for BY to get his contract if he makes it that long. He will be paid more than Josh Allen and all those guys. The race will be do we sign him before CJ Stroud or after. Both will set the market.

Jay... I think you like Tyler Warren lol!

It never works to under pay elite players. So pay BY his contract now and see where he is in a year from now.

This is like the random surveys we get at work... The correct answer is to always ask for more... Q. Is the coffee cheap enough? A. No Q. Are you being paid fairly? A. No Q. Should we spend more on the facilities? A. Yes

I always liked Shaq. He was over shadowed the majority of his career and underappreciated because of it. If you can get 10 years out of a 1st round draft pick then that was a great great pick.