Loyalty4Life

Mr. Scot, Please message me. I tried to message you but apparently I'm not allowed. I'm an older guy as well who has long been sick and tired of online culture and the constant knee jerk reactions of many. I'll love to be able to still hear you opinions of the Panthers even if just through email or gameday chats. Despite my post count I've been here on the Huddle almost since it began. I first began reading about Panthers new when the Charlotte Observer had a place to post, then I think I branched out to here and this board rocks. I've been through a few accounts as I lose a password or go through long periods of not visiting. Your insight and posts on the Panthers have always been one that I really appreciate and enjoy reading and I'd love to stay in contact. If not, then I understand. Enjoy your retirement and good luck in you and your wife's health. Keep Pounding and go Panthers!

You can have the best processing super computer in the world but if you don't fill it with accurate data, it will not work. The way Bryce plays is mainly focused on prediction and anticipation of the what the defense is doing. This is true for any Qb that that throws to a spot, like Brady or Brees. Right now, a large part of the dataset in his head is being upgraded from college to the NFL and a lot of that data comes from playing in live games. It called experience. Both interceptions in the Atlanta game were from Jessie Bates cheating on his coverage. The safety was in a place where he was not supposed to be, twice. Bryce's brain went boom, boom, throw based on the play and coverage. He doesn't yet have the experience at the NFL level to see and predict how fast the defense can and will go rogue or the heightened ways an NFL defense can fool you. I think the biggest problem we are having is that Bryce can understand all the detailed nuance of complicated offenses and plays and he can process it extremely fast but doesn't yet have the experience to may it all work in real time on the field. By simplifying the offense they are going to ask him to make reads that he doesn't have to worry about getting fooled in higher level concepts. The mistake (in retrospect) the coaching staff made is by coaching and expecting Bryce to play like a 3rd or 4th year Drew Brees and not a Drew Brees in his rookie year.

I would understand that it's taking a step backwards so you can actually move forward. I would be greatly disappointed in a losing season but look at what that actually gives us, which would be a top 2nd round pick. Yes, other players we traded are looking good right now but we had them without a solid QB for 4 years and look how that turned out. I would realize that if we had stayed the course with Wilks / Dalton (or whatever FA JAG they found) we would not have gone 0-17 and had the chance to "miss out" on Caleb or Drake. It's only by a combination of numerous factors that happened because we traded up and changed everything from players to coaching to scheme that we find ourselves 0-4. We could have not traded up for Bryce and stayed at 9 and even kept CMC. Then we add, Levis or Carter and sign Andy Dalton. All that does it continue to live in the middle being an 8 or 9 win team with no real chance to get past that. Tepper has thought from the start and it's something I agree with that if you don't have a franchise QB, then nothing else matters. Ever thing he's done since he bought the team was to walk a line between finding a franchise QB and being patient enough to see if the latest plan produced that. We have the foundation to build towards something now and not put a band-aid on it every year. Now, we have a chance that in 2 years we can compete for a SB year in and year out. Bucs are not going deep in the playoffs with Baker, Saints are not going deep in the playoffs with Carr, Falcons are not going deep in the playoffs with Ridder. In 2 years all of those teams will be in the same position of still needing a franchise QB. They'll be good enough to win enough games to not be able to draft a legit top QB in the draft. Meanwhile, the Panthers will have added to a solid foundation with loads of potential in Bryce Young. Don't get me wrong. I hate we are losing but I'd rather be 0-4 with Bryce's potential as a franchise QB than 2-2 with Andy Dalton.

If he's not worth elite money, then why did the Rams offer so much to trade for him. The Panthers offered him very, very good money which would have put him around 5-6th highest Edge rusher contract if the rumors of them offering him a contract similar to Maxx Crosby. Also, that list is based off of mostly last year when he who shall not be named was coaching the team. I agree that Burns has not yet proven to be on the level of Bosa, Watt, Garrett but I think he is definitely in that 2nd tier.

I went back and watched all of Bryce's throws. It wasn't near as bad as I thought watching it live. He has a great ability to snap throw with accuracy at the drop of a dime. Many times he's going one way and just kind of snaps his hips back and he's in position to throw. Very, very much like a short stop in baseball. My biggest take away from rewatching the game was how all over the place everything seems. They are obviously trying to figure out what works, who works, etc. They seem like the sports team at the start of any classic sports movie. An island of misfits toys who learn to grow and succeed together when they learn to trust each other. And if you thought Micheal Jordan was bad, focus on Cade Mays. You'll start having flash backs. He was getting rag dolled and throw around every play. I think Bryce could block better. It was that bad. Zavala also had a rough game, most likely due to the Saints having a really good defense. I've noticed a few times as well Icky getting killed on speed rushes. I came away impressed with Bryce's ability to scramble and run when he commits to a decision. Many times and I noticed this in college, he holds onto the ball too long sometimes trying to make a play. That rollout pass to Chark was a thing of beauty. Even when it's not complete you can see the improve skills he has. The 2 point conversation being a prime example. When Mingo develops or when Bryce and his present or future weapons get more in sync I think you'll see some magical backyard football plays. I'm really think this lurch out of the gate is due to everything on the team from players to scheme to coaches being brand new.

I could also just be a frustrated fan who doesn't really know what is really going on but here is my take. Bryce could be a bust. Bryce could be building up his knowledge and will break out in 2-3 games from now. Play calling could be the problem. Receivers not getting open could be the problem. Too many cooks in the kitchen could be the problem. Personally, I think it's a little bit of everything but something that not a lot of people talk about is how much and i mean really how much of everything is completely new. New staff many of whom have not worked together before. New scheme combining a bunch of different stuff. New offense. Icky, Bozeman and Moton. Those are the 3 starters playing for us right now that started for us last year. That's it. This whole thing is going to take some time. To figure out what works, for players to gel, for the team to gel. Yes, we suck right now but there are a multitude of reasons outside of the coaches forgot how to coach, Young is a bust, Fitt is the worst GM and Tepper is the next coming of Jerry Jones. And I love all the Told you so people coming out of the wood works. If it was possible to tell who would be great and who would be a bust the NFL would look a lot different.

What is the breakdown on where J. Chinn lined up. Formations, responsibility, etc...from what you can make out. I read he played 21 snaps in the box and 10 in the slot. Is he blitzing, being a 3rd LB'ers, covering, etc...

Looked like a team with new players, coaches, schemes and a rookie QB. I would have loved less mistakes, better players at skill positions and rookies who already had a few years of pro experience but alas that isn't how it works. If this is the average look of the Panthers in year 3, then I'll start calling for jobs and giving hot takes after every snap.

Some great play design. Run keeping ATL honest. Bryce looking legit. Oline legit. Screw all ya'll armchair non-believers!

Already getting Huddle whiplash.

Hats off to Corral for not quitting the team after having to play behind that very offensive line. I kept waiting for him to throw a tantrum. Impressed that Bryce gave a pep talk and friendly pat to Icky after almost getting killed by the rushers her wiffed on. I swear I think the first hit knocked Bryce cross eyeed and the 2nd hit knocked them back to normal. Still think we really need a backup RB.

I just saw on the ESPN ticker that he got up 4 times after being hit. Good stats.

Took a quarter of football to remind me of why 90% of fans are idiots.

I really wanna see how the defense lines up although since it is preseason I'm not sure if we will even see anything like what we'll see in the regular season. Really curious where and how they use Chinn. Wanna see if Corral is worth a bag of nickels. I'm still nervous about depth at RB and wanna see what the backup look like. And I guess Bryce.

He's no Eric Shelton.

Steve Smith on his podcast talked about about how badly Rhule used Brown. That he was putting a round peg into a square hole. Brown was asked to lose weight and play different techniques than his bread and butter.

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The double negative is what finally took him off my draft board.

In a shocking twist it turns out he's talking about Bryce Young. That 98 out there is a total lie. Young really scored a 187 out of 99.

If we trade down... we riot.

Was there something wrong with Matt Rhule?

I was leaning way toward Stroud for a long time but the more time went one the more even they became and in the last week a few things have put me solid on the Young side. CJ had elite linemen and receivers. I've watched Young have elite receivers and ok line to no receivers and a horrible oline. Young has excelled in every type of way the game and team have came at him. CJ was always surrounded by elite team mates. One great Georgia game isn't enough for me although I do see a great upside if he was our pick. Regardless of size I've seen Young do CJ things from a clean pocket. I have not seen Young do barely any of Young's magic when the protection breaks down.

The 49ers have shown you can't have enough quality QB's on your roster. I'd rather keep him then trade him as he's on a rookie deal and we've seen late round QB's end up better than 1st rounders many times before. Carolina likes throws darts to see if they can hit the bullseye. Why not wait to see where the Corral dart ended up hitting.