Loyalty4Life

I wanted AT Perry.

That is the kind of crap that always seems to happen to bad teams. Completely missed block for a punt block/TD. Critical 4th down and 1 and receiver is open but falls down.

Saints putting 6 on the line and we still running it down their throats.

Why. What has really changed? We are actually running the ball so we are actually somewhat in games but other than that the circumstances are still the same as they were to start the season. Line still can't block, WR still has trouble getting open except now Bryce is gun shy. Only so much you can do in season with pretty much the same offense. We could still win today and have the Falcons and Bucs at home. Packers are at Panthers too but have gotten much better than they were earlier in the season.

And the hits keep on coming...

Saints bring 6 on blitz and we pick it up but Iggy gets shredded on a speed rush.

And they kept 7 in to block and Chubba chipping on Iggy's man. Only way to throw deepish.

Protection, separation, great throw....nice. I like it. Almost exact same play that Mingo got a huge gain on a few games ago.

I hate Jonathan Vilma so much.

Well, looks like Bryce can throw deep, he just can't do it accurately right now. His footwork is horrible and he is to blame for that I also think that the constant pressure has him gun shy. He won't (and shouldn't) stand tall in the pocket and follow through in the face of a the pass rush. A lot of his throws he is throwing and turning away to keep from getting hit. So, he doesn't follow through and is inaccurate.

We suck but we didn't lose the #1 overall pick because we don't know what the results would have been if we'd not traded up for the #1 pick. You can't compare different variables and say the results for one would have been the same for the 2nd. Still sucks ass we have fallen so low.

In hindsight, what we should have done from the very beginning was to draft all the players that turned out to be studs in the NFL.

I wanna see Evero given the HC after Frank is fired. He's a potential star in the making and honestly I don't know if we could get a more qualified candidate to come in.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/05/01/nfl-draft-panthers-bryce-young-decision-process You can believe what the actual people say and actually report or view all rumors and twitter posts as being equally valid. The only rumors I heard about Frank preferring Shroud was because of the fact that all his previous QB's were over 6'3". That is it.

I love my Panthers. <shrug>

I agree and see your point but I do agree with Tepper in that if you don't have a QB, you don't have anything and after 5-6 years of trying to find a QB we shot our shot with Bryce. Even with hindsight I'd do it again. I think we'll be better off with Bryce in a few years than if we'd stayed the course with Rhule. But if Bryce does turn out to be a bust, you're right that we're at the bottom of the barrel with assets.

There is no right way to pick the right GM or coach. Tepper stayed the course with Ron. Yuck. Tepper picked the flashy college coach. Bust. Tepper picked (and paid for) the coach and staff with the most NFL experience. Bust. We will either go hot young coordinator next and promote Evero to HC or get a NFL expert "consultant" to pick the next GM like we did with Ernie Accorsi and got Dave Gettlemen. We'll hit sooner or later just like every other NFL team. I hope.

It's going to not get your QB killed which is about as much as I can hope for with Frank's offense.

Franks script is: Inside zone runs on 1st down for no gain 5 WR all run curl routes. Hank. WR screens that take forever.

What team that remotely needed a QB would not have taken Bryce Young in the top 5. None. If the Texans had gotten the number 1 pick, it most likely would be Bryce in Houston. People need to stop this armchair GM crap. No college player is what he is in his rookie year. Not Brady, not Mahomes, not Bryce, not any QB. No QB and this offense can coexist because the players don't fit the scheme and Frank won't change anything by more than 10 or 15%. Look at what worked today and during the year. Power running. Motion. Heavy sets. Extra protection. PA. OMG, we ran Duo a number of times and got great yards off of it. Our line, WR's and QB absolutely cannot even attempt to be any type of functional offensive unit if we can't pass protect. Bryce get pressure on 40% of his drop backs. Yet, we constantly go 5 wide and ask our line to hold up. Maybe week 12 is where that suddenly works. The drive where we scored today and the 1st drive when Brown took over the play calling should be our offensive.

Oh, my mistake. I must have been the only one who had him as a top draft pick. Don't twist it. Bryce has looked horrible the last two games and a lot of that is on him and his play but any QB in this offense is not being put in a position to excel. No one on this offense is being put into a position to excel. Run blocking line told to zone block. No help on long developing routes. Vanilla scheme. Frank won't do what is necessary. He'll lead this sinking ship playing his style of offense until he's fired. I'll say what I've said the whole year. You can't fully judge Bryce good or bad in this offense. Those 7 sacks were not coverage sacks.

This is what happens when you surround a great QB prospect with horrible scheme and surrounding talent. The last two games Bryce has looked horrible. When the whole team on offense looks this bad it's on coaching and scheme. Every time we play 23 personal and power run we look like we know what we are doing. But Frank always goes back to 4 or 5 wide spread with no protection and Bryce gets smoked. No chance. Zavala looks worse with every snap and yet we still are not giving him help and leaving the line no help with blocking. How many pressures and sacks will it take to get through to Frank.

Someone tell Frank that going 5 wide is now against the rules and just leave the RB in to block every single play on his left side. Also, 70 percent of plays should be out of 12 personal.