Loyalty4Life

I've heard rumors that people can improve over time. I remember when Chubba was a JAG. I remember when Derrick Brown was a bust. Icky was a borderline bust last year. Wasted a pick on Horn. Legette was a wasted pick. Brooks was a dumb pick. Damian Lewis got injured today and Zavala replace him for a lot of the 2nd half. Zavala looked as bad as an rookie offensive linemen could look last year. Guys don't get drafted high who don't have skills and abilities. Bryce is still a great prospect and it would be stupid to cut him now. Canales thinks he can still develop him and I do to. You teach young, inexperienced players how to improve, especially when your new coach preaches development. No one disagrees that the kid is a great team mate. As difficult as it is to find a QB I want to give any one of them Canales believes in as many chances as possible to develop. Brees was benched in his 2nd year. Steve Young started out 3-16 and got traded before his 3rd year to SF. I heard he eventually did good. I'm not saying Bryce is going to turn out like those two but he could. IMHO I saw plenty of flashes last year to warrant him being on the team. Some guys need to sit and learn, probably more so after the cluster that was all of last year. I think everyone agrees that Bryce looked worse in the first 2 games than he did last year. Everything points to a guy who is shellshocked. Quit taking Twitter rumors as facts or just be ok with saying, "I don't know" when it comes to Bryce's future potential.

I think Canales watched the film and combined with the last game realized it was much worse and had a thought. Fixing Bryce from the bench would be much easier then allowing the current events to continue. Brees got benched for 5 games after being the starter for a year and a half. Steve Young went 3-16 to start his career. I don't buy the "how could you ever start him again" nonsense. Easy. Dalton gets hurt or he plays average and we don't resign him. Bring in some legit competition and whomever is better starts. I'm not saying it'll be Bryce as those 2 games have been pretty bad but is easily could be. I don't know but I went back and watched his first game from last year and still see flashes and skill. I don't think he's done. At the very least, I don't think that giving up on him after what I consider two horrible games after a year of being on one of the worst football teams I've watched is worth a 4th round pick or whatever his current value is. You could not play him the rest of the year and start someone else next year and you'd still get the same value then, if not more.

The agenda was building around Bryce. 2 WR, 3 olinemen, TE, and a potentially elite RB. I stood up for Bryce all last year because I didn't think you could evaluate him properly with what we had last year in coaching, play calling and personal. Bryce was the 2nd least pressured QB in the last 2 weeks because of the money Morgan spent on the line. Despite Bryce looking horrible I'd say Morgan has had an exceptional beginning as GM. Here some more things I liked. Trevin Wallace looked like a banger in preseason. Resigned Brown. Gave Horn his 5th year option and Horn is playing very well. *Flipped a 7th round pick for a starting CB in Michael Jackson who has also played well. Filled a depleted roster with solid vets and if you really look at the cap this is a 2 year play. Almost everyone except the 2 elite guards signed a 2 year deal. Did not pay Stephen Gilmore 10 million for one season. *Got the 0-2 Rams 2nd pick next year. Set a culture and tone of the type of players we want. *Dawgs. *Elite GM moves.

Wait until we get Brooks backs with this oline.

Texans had Bryce ahead of Stroud. Meeting with your boss isn't meddling. Coaches and GMs have made all of our draft picks. We did land on the moon. 9/11 was not an inside job. Dunning-Kruger is rampant with NFL fans. The sun will shine again in Panther land.

Maybe, but the best course of action is still for the staff to be behind Bryce 100 percent. Him turning it around is still the most probable positive outcome possible for the QB position and the team as a whole. The only other option is start Dalton but I think that is too short a leash for Bryce. As horrible as it sounds you have to stay the course and double down on Bryce and Canales as there really is no where else to go. Pulling the plug after one game is the only way this gets worse. Coaching looked better on offense. Oline and WR looked better. Bryce looked worse. Defense looked worse. Boggles my mind to think we're worse against the run than last year.

I wanna see some examples made even if they don't really matter. Boone allowing the punt block. I'm way past a developmental 4th string RB. Just get me someone who can do one simple job well. Sanders also screwed up a block that got Bryce sacked but Bryce seems unable to change up protection against obvious pressure. Can't see it before it comes and doesn't have a plan if the pressure does come.

I thought we would lean on the run a lot more and slowly add Bryce with some PA throws. Looks like a team that has not bought in. I don't think Bryce is completely broken yet but whatever newfound confidence he'd started to build went down the drain with that first pick. I expect them to look a little better next week but won't "figure it out" until Jonathon Brooks becomes the starter in 5 or 6 games. We'll have won maybe 1 game by them and realize our only option is to pound the rock. We will start doing that. Brooks will break out as a star. Bryce will improve little by little and start to look like his college tape or he actually is a complete bust and around week 10 Canales realizes we have a stud oline and RB and he'll bench Bryce. We'll stupidly then win just enough games to kill a high enough draft pick to replace Bryce.

Guy is a blocking TE. Where are the blocking stats? How does he compare to other blocking TE's in the league? I do think he was overpaid and I blame McAdoo for his present contract. IMHO, he was the one pushing for him.

Who is the assistant to the regional manager? I blame him.

Preseason is longer longer the glory it once was.

Crisis averted.

Preseason is no longer what it used to be. I think with an extra regular season game and coaches liking joint practices a lot more the norm is going to be that Starters don't play preseason games at all. Putting Bryce out there with anything less than our starting offensive line would be downright criminal. If there were still 4 preseason games I think we'd see Bryce in the usual way we saw starters in each game in the past.

This is from his draft / combine profile from NFL.com. https://www.nfl.com/prospects/austin-corbett/3200434f-5200-8097-d4cb-2bd53a7e3b55 Overview Corbett won't blow you away with any of his measurables or play traits, but he's solid in most areas. Corbett is definitely sharp enough to move inside to guard or even center and has good technique, but his average to below average play strength and lack of length may be a concern. He has the size and talent to compete for a guard/center spot early on, but he may elevate above an average starter during his career. Sources Tell Us "He's smart and just solid all the way around. Long time starter in the league. I think he'll end up at center." - AFC offensive line coach

I don't think all the 5th and 6th year seniors flooding the market due to Covid had any effect on the value of a 2nd round pick next year vs this year. Still feels great.

33 - A. Mitchell (this was before I heard about rumors of his attitude problem) 39 - Zach Frazier 65 - Trey Benson 101 - Ja'Tavion Sander 136 - Trotter Jr. 178 - Tyler Davis I also went with our original draft slots.

“So dawg mentality to me, it might sound crazy, dawg mentality to me is you don’t care if you go out there and hurt somebody. It’s part of the game. You go in there and hurt somebody, you be like, ‘I did this and I’ma do it again.’ That’s what dawg mentality is. You don’t go in there being soft. You go in there like, ‘I’ma hurt you every play. I want you to be scared of me.'” He also already has two little girls and says every play he just imagines they (the other team) is trying to take food out my girls mouth. He was asked if he's every hurt somebody. He just laughed softly, smiled and didn't answer. D A W G

I've read numerous times that mid to late 4th round the talent falls off a cliff.

We get a 5th year on him as a first round pick. Bills did us the favor.

I love Pearsall. I see Mingo as our #2 so we really need the harder to find X outside receiver although it's possible Mingo could continue to develop into that roll. Legette, Baker and Coleman could fit that role but I think they are middle to low 2nd rounders so we'd have to overdraft based on most big boards. Out of those I do like Legette the best. 6'4" with 4.4 speed. I also really like Worthy alot of his size puts me off as I can already see the whole team full of little people jokes.

I can't. Those are letters, not numbers.

Evero's defense is a 2 high shell. It's not just the rules these days allowing offenses to score more easily. It's much more difficult in today's NFL to get over the top since Vic Fangiono's style defense has gotten more and more popular. Losing Burns is a loss in my opinion but overall I think we'll be a better defense because it's year two and Evero has more guys that fit his system. With the addition of Robinson and Wonnum as well as others I think we are going to be much improved against the run. With any improvement on offense that is also going to help the defense who kept us in a lot of games last year but couldn't last the entire game. I am in.

I've been a Panthers fan since word came out that Jerry was making a bid. I am ride or die. “The pain. It's worth it. The more you love, the more it hurts. It's the only thing that is.”

Mmmm. So, this is what the bottom looks like.