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Panthers laughing out loud at Carr trying to make them jump offside. That was funny.

Somewhere a stoic riverboat Ron is still not smiling.

Great pass and catch beats good coverage. Good stop on the 2 point conversion. Let's go Panthers. Let's answer.

Both sides have ton of injuries. I'm not good enough to compute if every starter was playing and no one was playing hurt. Just responding to the play on the field with the professional NFL players that are playing.

Not being aggressive with a shaky young QB and a struggling team on 3rd and 15 is now horrible play calling? In a close game where our defense is playing relativly well?

Panthers holding Saints to a field goal numerous times in the redzone has been impressive.

I'm impressed with both of the decisions to punt on 4th and short. The announcer was dumb founded on both decisions but both let to short fields and points on the next drive. Sanders (TE) has whiffed on some key blocks. Bryce playing better but still nothing to write home about. XL and Coker continue to makes plays each game and improving.

The Bears defense is actually good. Injuries. A lot of them. Wallace, a rookie, calling the plays and the Bears knew it. That was the reason for all the hurry up. Canales isn't the reason we lost. He is the next logical person fans can blame. PS. There isn't any questions about Bryce that the Panthers and Canales haven't already been telling everyone. If people don't want to believe him, that's on them.

The last thing I want to do is read what the average fan thinks. Most can't think past the last game they watched. Now we have people trying to say we were really pretty good last year and the whole problem was just Bryce. The coaching staff, playcalling, play of the rest of the team was not good. Giving up on a high draft pick after nearly killing him with 9 different starter at guard, horrible play calling and a below average run game is not a recipe for a rookie QB. I'm not blind. His play the first two weeks of this season was awful and 100% is not good enough to play QB in the NFL, starter or backup. If this is who he is and there is no hope for improvement then he'll be out of the league soon enough. Go watch the All 22 film. There is a lot of horrible plays but there are also a lot of good one. NFL level ability, throws and runs. More than enough examples of good plays to say if he can play like that consistently then he can be an NFL starting QB. It's very easy to see the biggest problem now is his confidence which has caused him to regress even more and make his good traits average or worse and his bad traits look like they can't be fixed. We know he's a young kid. We know last year the panthers did a horrible job putting in a position to be successful. We know that our new head coach excels at helping and training QBs. We know we've already paid a good deal of his contract. We know he's very willing to learn and has a good attitude despite his situation. We know he has the raw ability to play at this level because he has already done it. There are a great number of reasons not to throw the kid out on his butt just yet. We are at the bottom of the league. We don't have the pleasure of throwing any potential away. Worse case we miss out on a 4th or 5th round pick. Best case, Canales is the real deal and he turns Bryce into the player he was in college but at the NFL level.

Is the link invisible?

Teams that suck and have good players with ending contracts try to trade them before they end. Shocker.

I don't see how we all got took so easy. I believed it was possible that he could be good after watching him win so much in college and win all those award. I think there were only a few mock drafts where he fell out of the first round. I'm not sure how he was able to throw TD passes in college but can't do it now. Maybe he threw too much in college wore out some tenders or maybe he took a hit to his shoulder from TJ Watt and can't actually throw down the field anymore. Tepper probably covering it up. I wonder if Tepper do a trade with the state of NC. Trade the NFL rights to Bryce in exchange for the city of Rock Hill. Tepper has done crazier things. Anyway. Keep Pounding. This thread is the kind the Huddle once posted from other teams forums for us to laugh at and mock.

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Very good point. The Panthers could be keeping him for only this reason and since it would be very difficult to trade him now without the another team taking on salary as part of the deal, they may just be trying to maximize his future trade value.

It's pretty clear you use words that you don't know the meaning of like "value and that everything we think "we" know is based mostly on rumors. I'm not defending the fact that Bryce is a great QB or that he didn't look like an completely awful QB the first two games of the season. I'm defending against the Chicken Little, sky is falling, fan speak narrative that he has "no value" or that it's not very possible he can improve and become a starter in this league. Why do I believe this? Because I've seen it happen way to often in sports. One teams "trash" is another treasure. Hell, it's happened to us as recently as Darnold and Baker. Because last year would have a negative impact on any developing QB. Because Canales has said he still believes in Bryce as a franchise QB. Because Jonathan Jones has reported that the Panthers as an organization still believe in him. Because he hasn't been traded. Because fans usually don't know poo, myself included, but I am least admit it or say I don't know. I'm not saying it's not very possible or maybe even probable that Bryce will turn out to be a complete bust but history has shown that it's very possible he'll be a future starter in this league. Steve Young won 3 games his first 2 years before he was traded to SF and he looked about as bad as Bryce throwing 11 TDs and 21 ints. The Panthers are known to not give up when the going gets tough. Keep Pounding.

That is not true. ESPN, Adam Schefter and Jay Glazer have reported that 4 teams has inquired about trading for him. https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10136302-nfl-trade-rumors-panthers-bryce-young-eyed-by-several-teams-after-benching "The Panthers have been contacted by certain teams, according to league sources, while other teams have mulled a Young trade within their own organizations," Schefter wrote. According to Schefter, the Panthers "do not intend to trade" Young. Jay Glazer of Fox Sports provided more information Sunday, adding there were specifically four teams interested in the young quarterback. "There's four teams who actually called the Panthers this week and tried to inquire to see if they can trade for Bryce Young," Glazer said on Fox NFL Sunday. "All four teams were told emphatically by Carolina, 'We are not trading him, we do still think there's a future here."

Fine. Let me rephrase. Why hasn't Morgan/Canales traded Bryce Young yet?

Their relationship was definitely a factor but both Morgan and Canales report directly to Tepper as does the 3rd man at the top, Brandt Tilis (Executive VP of Football operations). "This follows the organizational structure that the executive search firm Sportsology, who helped team owner David Tepper with this search and remains involved in the head coaching search, installed when they performed similar services for the San Francisco 49ers in 2017." https://www.derp/2024/1/24/24048916/carolina-panthers-samir-suleiman-brandt-tilis-and-the-future-front-office

If it's such an obvious call to trade Bryce now why hasn't Morgan and Canales jumped at the chance? Former local reporter here, Jonathan Jones, who has since done writing for Sport Illustrated and is now a senior NFL reporter and insider for CBS pretty much lays out the truth. I've followed the guy his whole career and he is one of the best. Most can't see through the pain of losing so much or use random twitter posts to support their opinion so many won't believe this either. Tepper going to a pro day or who his wife hugged is too much proof to overcome for the majority of fans. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/panthers-not-turning-page-on-benched-bryce-young-expect-former-no-1-pick-to-regain-starting-spot-in-2024/

I really don't understand. He was elite in middle school, high school and college. He was one of the best at every level pre-NFL. He earned all of his previous accolades. Even if he's the biggest NFL bust in history I don't understand what you mean. As if, now looking horrible in the NFL has somehow pulled away the curtain and exposed what a fake he was all along.

When did that happen?

Bryce meet Andy coming off the field after his first TD and I saw numerous times of them together talking on the sideline. I'm sure he was celebrating in the locker room as well with his team because he's a class act no matter what you think of his skill on the field. No one really knows how much of the rumors about Tepper were or are true but the one fact I do know about Tepper is he picked Canales to be our head coach.

Who knew our kicker was a bad ass?

How about we let Canales try and develop Bryce. Four other teams inquired about trading for Bryce. Canales flat out refused. Jonathan Jones has reported that no one is out on Bryce and they still believe he can be our franchise QB. Let's give our new coach and QB whisper more than a preseason and 2 games to develop Bryce.

I've heard rumors that people can improve over time. I remember when Chubba was a JAG. I remember when Derrick Brown was a bust. Icky was a borderline bust last year. Wasted a pick on Horn. Legette was a wasted pick. Brooks was a dumb pick. Damian Lewis got injured today and Zavala replace him for a lot of the 2nd half. Zavala looked as bad as an rookie offensive linemen could look last year. Guys don't get drafted high who don't have skills and abilities. Bryce is still a great prospect and it would be stupid to cut him now. Canales thinks he can still develop him and I do to. You teach young, inexperienced players how to improve, especially when your new coach preaches development. No one disagrees that the kid is a great team mate. As difficult as it is to find a QB I want to give any one of them Canales believes in as many chances as possible to develop. Brees was benched in his 2nd year. Steve Young started out 3-16 and got traded before his 3rd year to SF. I heard he eventually did good. I'm not saying Bryce is going to turn out like those two but he could. IMHO I saw plenty of flashes last year to warrant him being on the team. Some guys need to sit and learn, probably more so after the cluster that was all of last year. I think everyone agrees that Bryce looked worse in the first 2 games than he did last year. Everything points to a guy who is shellshocked. Quit taking Twitter rumors as facts or just be ok with saying, "I don't know" when it comes to Bryce's future potential.